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[xPikYx]

Check page 498 starting from the beginning.

Yeah but did it start from another rumour or just people speculating? I've also seen that link few posts ago

 

[Kazekage1981]

i wouldnt say it is pissing me off, but i am not buying a hot, energy guzzling 2ghz 9tf ps5 unless it is $199. So i am looking for alternative theories that dont ignore the info we have. two 36 cu chips would give us a 13+ ps5, satisfying all the people who have said ps5>xsx and pachter’s $1000 comment, while not contradicting anything in the github papers.

if it isnt dual gpu, ps5 looks like a serious POS. more energy, more heat, less power...lol, wtf.

Maybe it will be 2GHz at backwards compatibility mode and lower the GPU frequency by perhaps 1.5 to 1.8Ghz range when activating additional Compute Units to play an actual PS5 game.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Whoa people are seriously entertaining dual gpus on such a wide scale. I will say this. Never, ever, make fun of misterxmedia again. Even I as a hardcore xbox fan never bought any of that stuff, and there are people here really entertaining PS5 having dual 36CU GPUs? And what would they charge for such a thing exactly?

 

[Dargor]

Whoa people are seriously entertaining dual gpus on such a wide scale. I will say this. Never, ever, make fun of misterxmedia again. Even I as a hardcore xbox fan never bought any of that stuff, and there are people here really entertaining PS5 having dual 36CU GPUs? And what would they charge for such a thing exactly?

 

[Kazekage1981]

Whoa people are seriously entertaining dual gpus on such a wide scale. I will say this. Never, ever, make fun of misterxmedia again. Even I as a hardcore xbox fan never bought any of that stuff, and there are people here really entertaining PS5 having dual 36CU GPUs? And what would they charge for such a thing exactly?

What does dual compute unit mean, and are there any examples of this in the pc world? I am speculating, but I want to believe so bad.

Chooo Chooo :-(

 

[SportsFan581]

Whoa people are seriously entertaining dual gpus on such a wide scale. I will say this. Never, ever, make fun of misterxmedia again. Even I as a hardcore xbox fan never bought any of that stuff, and there are people here really entertaining PS5 having dual 36CU GPUs? And what would they charge for such a thing exactly?

This is how a new gen creates a new misterxmedia, it's a process.

 

[Samanosuke Akechi]

Anything from cboat yet? Maybe he’s waiting till ces.

 

[Clintizzle]

Anything from cboat yet? Maybe he’s waiting till ces.

Yeah will probably be like the Video Game Awards where he'll tease something a day before or just before CES.

 

[bitbydeath]

Whoa people are seriously entertaining dual gpus on such a wide scale. I will say this. Never, ever, make fun of misterxmedia again. Even I as a hardcore xbox fan never bought any of that stuff, and there are people here really entertaining PS5 having dual 36CU GPUs? And what would they charge for such a thing exactly?

I do wonder why the PS5 devkit is such a monster (bigger than XSX) and supposedly only contains a small 36CU GPU inside.

 

[chemical boy]

MisterXmedia invented stories when the specifications had already been announced, this is very different because nothing has been announced yet and everything is possible.

 

[joe_zazen]

Yeah but did it start from another rumour or just people speculating? I've also seen that link few posts ago

it is an old but interesting rumour combined with the fact that navi linux drivers have dual gpu entries, a distinct change from vega drivers that had no mention of slave and master gpus. It is a reach, but not totally crazy.

otherwise, sony have made a apu that literally has no upside beyond being a little cheaper to manufacture and all of the comments from insiders make no sense.

 

[Samanosuke Akechi]

I do wonder why the PS5 devkit is such a monster (bigger than XSX) and supposedly only contains a small 36CU GPU inside.

Well PS4’s devkit was also huge. Yet PS4 base is considered by many to be disappointing.

 

[SportsFan581]

What is the rumor anyway, two gpu structures along with a cpu as part of a single chip? 2 dies on an interposer?

 

[Red_Driver85]

Whoa people are seriously entertaining dual gpus on such a wide scale.

Someone believes in stupid fanatical speculations of blue nugroho too. So, there is nothing to be done about it until the real information appears.

 

[Red_Driver85]

Well PS4’s devkit was also huge.

But the cooling system is very different, they are literally on a different level.

 

[joe_zazen]

What is the rumor anyway, two gpu structures along with a cpu as part of a single chip? 2 dies on an interposer?

no info beyond 2x36 cu.

amd has been working on chiplets and infinity fabric tho.

 

[Kdad]

i wouldnt say it is pissing me off, but i am not buying a hot, energy guzzling 2ghz 9tf ps5 unless it is $199. So i am looking for alternative theories that dont ignore the info we have. two 36 cu chips would give us a 13+ ps5, satisfying all the people who have said ps5>xsx and pachter’s $1000 comment, while not contradicting anything in the github papers.

if it isnt dual gpu, ps5 looks like a serious POS. more energy, more heat, less power...lol, wtf.

There was a rumour awhile back about connecting two PS5 together to create beast mode....hahaha

But I have no clue about any of this other than PlayStation creates the games I like and the rest are on PC or Nin...so X is moot.

 

[Raploz]

I agree. Although RT is important, developers: more specifically, artists and animators need to get over this barrier of motion stiffness. Static, rigid animations are getting old as fuck. Sure the texture work looks great, and in still pictures look real, but they move like dolls, puppets, manikins. If PS5 and Xsex can display realistic cinematic motion indistinguisible from a movie scene, then they will truly bring us to next gen.

Maybe it's not far from happening:

 

[Reindeer]

This thread is turning into a joke that people will start mocking just like they were mocking Era.

 

[CyberPanda]

This thread is turning into a joke that people will start mocking just like they were mocking Era.

Lol it’s already happening

 

[bitbydeath]

Well PS4’s devkit was also huge. Yet PS4 base is considered by many to be disappointing.

That’s still small compared to the PS5 devkit.
Note: The PS5 controllers are larger than the PS4.

PS5:
3 x controllers wide
2 x controllers deep
1 x controller high (when turned on its side)

PS4:
2 x controllers wide
2 x controllers deep (maybe)
Half a controller high

 

[SportsFan581]

This thread is turning into a joke that people will start mocking just like they were mocking Era.

Good times!

 

[Samanosuke Akechi]

Thank god ces is tomorrow. Please give us something Sony. Anything.

 

[Raploz]

That’s still small compared to the PS5 devkit.
Note: The PS5 controllers are larger than the PS4.

PS5:
3 x controllers wide
2 x controllers deep
1 x controller high (when turned on its side)

PS4:
2 x controllers wide
2 x controllers deep (maybe)
Half a controller high

Maybe it's big because they're trying to cool a 2Ghz GPU.

 

[Kdad]

Thank god ces is tomorrow. Please give us something Sony. Anything.

Still think if they talk PS at all it'll be a relaunch if PS Now...do we know if Google is showing up with Stadia?

 

[xPikYx]

it is an old but interesting rumour combined with the fact that navi linux drivers have dual gpu entries, a distinct change from vega drivers that had no mention of slave and master gpus. It is a reach, but not totally crazy.

otherwise, sony have made a apu that literally has no upside beyond being a little cheaper to manufacture and all of the comments from insiders make no sense.

This at least is either close to my prediction and not absurd like that 9tf one

 

[vpance]

What is the rumor anyway, two gpu structures along with a cpu as part of a single chip? 2 dies on an interposer?

Double sided interposer

Not my pic but imagine the 2 heatsinks

 

[Samanosuke Akechi]

Still think if they talk PS at all it'll be a relaunch if PS Now...do we know if Google is showing up with Stadia?

I haven’t heard about google. Someone made a comment the other day how the recent game trailers at the game awards didn’t have a stadia logo at the end. But had PS4 and Xbox. Seems devs and pubs aren’t liking stadia much?

 

[Reindeer]

Thank god ces is tomorrow. Please give us something Sony. Anything.

Even if the mention PS5 I highly doubt they will talk about teraflops, which is what everyone here is freaking out about.

 

[Samanosuke Akechi]

Even if the mention PS5 I highly doubt they will talk about teraflops, which is what everyone here is freaking out about.

True. I’m not that concerned about the TFs. I just want some updated info. Maybe BC related, a game announcement or two. Just something to tide me over till their actual unveil meeting whenever that is.

 

[Mista]

Devs. I think someone mentioned this before but only the managers and high-end employees know about the specs on the next-gen consoles. That part is definitely true, so even most devs don't know the specs. They may have an "idea" from rumors at a given company, but they probably don't know the specs (most of them I mean) -- or at the very least was told that specs aren't final form factors.

What about the studios that already started making games for PS5 and Xbox? Aren’t they supposed to know by now?

 

[bitbydeath]

Maybe it's big because they're trying to cool a 2Ghz GPU.

That’d only cover one side of the V. The left wouldn’t cool down the right and vice versa very well so doesn’t explain the size.

 

[Reindeer]

That’d only cover one side of the V. The left wouldn’t cool down the right and vice versa very well so doesn’t explain the size.

If that devkit was dual GPU then it would have leaked by now I think.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

If that devkit was dual GPU then it would have leaked by now I think.

There's always hope.

The devkit has one gpu, but the final system for gamers has a double gpu!

lol

 

[bitbydeath]

If that devkit was dual GPU then it would have leaked by now I think.

Sure, I don’t want to get into any long discussions. I just find it interesting that whatever is inside the devkit that they’ve designed each side to be cooled down equally.

 

[CyberPanda]

There's always hope.

The devkit has one gpu, but the final system for gamers has a double gpu!

lol

Dual? Make it triple!

 

[Reindeer]

Sure, I don’t want to get into any long discussions. I just find it interesting it has been built to cool down each side equally.

Ever thought that the devkit could be running a discrete GPU until the APU was finalised?

 

[bitbydeath]

Ever thought that the devkit could be running a discrete GPU until the APU was finalised?

Anything is possible.

 

[Agnostic2020]

Industry analyst piers Harding made 11 prediction for 2019 and 10 of those were correct . He made another 10 prediction for 2020 .

In one of those, he says ps5 and xsx will launch at same price and it will be higher than 399$. He expects less brand switching . Both ps5 and xsx will sell more than their predecessors.

I guess the whole ps5 going for $399 might not happen

 

[Reindeer]

Anything is possible.

I think that's a very likely possibility and that's why it maybe has equal cooling on both sides. That's more of a likelihood than a dual GPU.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

That’s still small compared to the PS5 devkit.
Note: The PS5 controllers are larger than the PS4.

PS5:
3 x controllers wide
2 x controllers deep
1 x controller high (when turned on its side)

PS4:
2 x controllers wide
2 x controllers deep (maybe)
Half a controller high

You're overthinking this. If they have the GPU clocked to 2GHz (or even higher) as multiple other rumors have supposed, then the system would need to be pretty large and with a lot of room for cooling even if it's a 40 CU chip. There is also the CPU, GDDR6, blu-ray drive, SSD (likely M.2), PSU, USB/ethernet hubs/ports, I/O ports etc. all populating the motherboard, either taking up space, generating heat, or both.

And if the GPU is clocked very high (which would affect the APU's TDP), then they may want those components arranged differently on the motherboard to help with implementing a sufficient cooling solution. And you would get something to the size of the PS5 V-design devkit with that setup going.

 

[bitbydeath]

You're overthinking this. If they have the GPU clocked to 2GHz (or even higher) as multiple other rumors have supposed, then the system would need to be pretty large and with a lot of room for cooling even if it's a 40 CU chip. There is also the CPU, GDDR6, blu-ray drive, SSD (likely M.2), PSU, USB/ethernet hubs/ports, I/O ports etc. all populating the motherboard, either taking up space, generating heat, or both.

And if the GPU is clocked very high (which would affect the APU's TDP), then they may want those components arranged differently on the motherboard to help with implementing a sufficient cooling solution. And you would get something to the size of the PS5 V-design devkit with that setup going.

My point was only half could be used to cool that chip with that design. So it is interesting.

 

[Samanosuke Akechi]

Liking this mockup I found.

 

[Reindeer]

Liking this mockup I found.

Somewhere between PS2 and PS4. Yep, that's a 9.2 tflop design right there .

 

[chessy_08]

I predict Sony defines weather its rda rda2 or a hybrid and also which gen of zen we are getting without any specs such as clock or TF

 

[Kdad]

Somewhere between PS2 and PS4. Yep, that's a 9.2 tflop design right there .

There is no controller to gauge size...it's 1ft thick and 3 feet wide.

 

[Red_Driver85]

Yep, that's a 9.2 tflop design right there

And some vacuum cleaner noise too.

 

[Samanosuke Akechi]

And some vacuum cleaner noise too.

 

[Red_Driver85]

Give me some noise!

 

[Samanosuke Akechi]

Give me some noise!