Nintendo blocks speedruns at RTA Japan over licenses...at a charity event

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I mean Nintendo is Nintendo but of all the absolutely rock bottom, bottom of the barrel actions they could possibly take...blocking top level players promoting their games and showing them being played and promoted at the highest levels was the hill that Nintendo decided to plant their flag on? Now the event organizers had to pull all Nintendo games from their summer event and have to seek individual licenses for ANY Nintendo game run at the event moving forward. What...Nintendo want a cut of the charity money too?

Cant bode well for GDQ in the future either

 
I'm sure Nintendo is counting on the fact that this type of thing passes over relatively quickly and they think it won't have any long term damage on the brand, but I can't agree. I'm just waiting for something egregious enough to piss off casual players happens, and they reap what they sow with all of this anti-consumer shit and litigation bullying that they've done in other instances.

It'd be pretty great if content creators/games media just collectively acted like Nintendo just doesn't exist anymore. That'd be the most """protected""" their IPs could ever become. Won't ever happen though, but I like to imagine.
 
Pejo said:
I'm sure Nintendo is counting on the fact that this type of thing passes over relatively quickly and they think it won't have any long term damage on the brand, but I can't agree. I'm just waiting for something egregious enough to piss off casual players happens, and they reap what they sow with all of this anti-consumer shit and litigation bullying that they've done in other instances.

It'd be pretty great if content creators/games media just collectively acted like Nintendo just doesn't exist anymore. That'd be the most """protected""" their IPs could ever become. Won't ever happen though, but I like to imagine.
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if Nintendo were to do this to GDQ I think that would be the tipping point where major, non-gaming news outlets started running headlines like "Nintendo block charity event for cancer"....and that would be some BAD PRESS
 
I'm sure it's because they don't like seeing their games being broken with glitch, but that's still despicable. That was the limit they shouldn't have cross.
 
inb4 the warriors crawl out of the shadows to shriek that Nintendo has the right to protect their IP.

Seriously, Nintendo has to be the biggest, most overtly anti-consumer company out there. So many of their decisions are just BAFFLING and yet they have so much of the crowd by the fuckin balls.
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I'm sure it's because they don't like seeing their games being broken with glitch, but that's still despicable. That was the limit they shouldn't have cross.
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Isn't that precisely why they SHOULD see this stuff so they can make better games in the future?

Honestly, speedrunners should have access to betas and release candidates prior to launch of big games. They're the ones you want testing your game if making sure this stuff can't happen is your goal.
 
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This is on-brand for Nintendo, remember when they tried to monetize YT with their "Creators Program"? That's when their bean-counters kept them alive because 3ds & WiiU bombed.
 
I think doing stuff like that, once in a while at random, is a deliberate tactic.
It's to recall people who's in charge, and that they can fuck you up for any reason or no reason at all.
 
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Nintendo does the same thing with any event that dares to have Melee tournaments. They would rather you play what is officially available for sale.

They've always been ambivalent about speedrunning, but this is a whole new level. It's like when Vtubers have to ASK to play games on their streams.
 
I can't think of a more obvious failure of Western society failing its people than looking at the speedrunning community. Lonely/autistic men at a young age have to programmed to fail, and you get all these trooned out horror shows with obviously gifted minds speedrunning video games.

If a great American like Claude Shannon was born today, you wouldn't know who he was. He would be Claudine Shannon in Petoskey, Michigan trying to get sub 8:00 minutes on Garfield: Hungry Cat for the Sega Game Gear.
 
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VGEsoterica said:
if Nintendo were to do this to GDQ I think that would be the tipping point where major, non-gaming news outlets started running headlines like "Nintendo block charity event for cancer"....and that would be some BAD PRESS
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They would come after you with a shotgun..
 
VGEsoterica said:
I mean Nintendo is Nintendo but of all the absolutely rock bottom, bottom of the barrel actions they could possibly take...blocking top level players promoting their games and showing them being played and promoted at the highest levels was the hill that Nintendo decided to plant their flag on? Now the event organizers had to pull all Nintendo games from their summer event and have to seek individual licenses for ANY Nintendo game run at the event moving forward. What...Nintendo want a cut of the charity money too?
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It's incredibly easy to turn people off of a game that they would otherwise naturally want to play.
People in 'Country A' playing 'Game X' do or say something that offends people in 'Country B'.
Millions of people's opinions on game X have been soured, they'll miss out on a positive gaming experience and game sales will suffer.
Allowing anyone to stream or show video game footage undermines the massive effort that studios put into branding and marketing games.
Seeing other people play games doesn't increase game sales and has the opposite effect with an unknown decrease in game sales.
Not being able to see other people playing a game online will increase game sales.

In the future platforms will adopt Steam's (2hr no questions asked) return policy and studios aggressively block anyone from posting video game footage online.
In exchange everyone will get only the game footage that studios put forward and 100% of users will get a fresh, unspoiled gaming experience.
Game reviewers will return to text-based reviews being restricted to using only images and footage provided by studios.
Reviews will be a massive waste of time when 100% of the risk has been removed from the game buying process.
Buying a game and trying it out will take far less time than watching someone give you their opinion on that same game.
It generally takes a few minutes of actual hands-on gameplay to know if any game is a good fit.
Giving 100% of users the full experience of 'discovering' games for themselves is good for users and the platform.
 
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So, I am guessing the switch 2 does not have a built-in official way to livestream games to YouTube like the other consoles do? Will people never be able to livestream nintendo games to youtube without needing a capture card, and still running the risk of having their videos removed from YouTube and their channels striked?
 
"Wow. Just wow. It's a charity" pearl clutching public shakedowns are pretty tired OP. Are other streams/event complying with the Nintendo rules? Is the exception being requested on the grounds of "it's a charity man"?
 
simpatico said:
"Wow. Just wow. It's a charity" pearl clutching public shakedowns are pretty tired OP. Are other streams/event complying with the Nintendo rules? Is the exception being requested on the grounds of "it's a charity man"?
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How exactly is Nintendo being harmed by this event? I'd argue the harmed caused by Nintendo's behavior is far greater to them than whatever the speed runners were doing.
 
I don't see the problem. Charity is often abused for the sake of the ones managing the events.

Look what happened to the higher ups at Vshojo did with Ironmouse, or iDubbz's Creator Clash.
 
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How exactly is Nintendo being harmed by this event? I'd argue the harmed caused by Nintendo's behavior is far greater to them than whatever the speed runners were doing.
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Nintendo has always been very proactive in their brand protectiveness. Can you argue with the results? This seems like a blanket policy for any kind of public display, and we must assume that it's ordinarily followed since plenty of people broadcast Nintendo games. "2charitable2comply" seems like the cornerstone of the group's rebuttal to finding out that the rules apply to them as well. The world is an ugly and vulgar place these days. Nintendo's brand is based on "all ages, family friendly, squeaky clean". With some of the... proclivities a large part of the gaming convention community is known for, I'm not surprised Nintendo wants to keep their content on a short leash. Seems like they've avoided a lot of the potholes Disney has stepped in on this road.
 
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This is what happens when companies get too successful. They think they own the world and can get away with anything. Same with Nvidia.

They need to be successful enough to keep themselves afloat but at the same time struggle to earn your trust so they continue to keep themselves afloat.

Nintendo were at their best when they were struggling.
 
VGEsoterica said:
I mean Nintendo is Nintendo but of all the absolutely rock bottom, bottom of the barrel actions they could possibly take...blocking top level players promoting their games and showing them being played and promoted at the highest levels was the hill that Nintendo decided to plant their flag on? Now the event organizers had to pull all Nintendo games from their summer event and have to seek individual licenses for ANY Nintendo game run at the event moving forward. What...Nintendo want a cut of the charity money too?

Cant bode well for GDQ in the future either

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Not a cut in this case but to assert dominance and to make sure they make a point that to even think about their IP you need to contact them and they will graciously allow your charity event. It is power and control pure and simple.
 
Great Job Nintendo!!

Go look up GDQ partners/recipient charities, nothing but globalist NGOs pushing certain agenda and some are downright dirty and conniving (Doctors Without Borders)

My respect and love for Nintendo grows 10x upon reading this. I love you Nintendo so much ❤️❤️❤️
 
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Kotaro said:
Great Job Nintendo!!

Go look up GDQ partners/recipient charities, nothing but globalist NGOs pushing certain agenda and some are downright dirty and conniving (Doctors Without Borders)

My respect and love for Nintendo grows 10x upon reading this. I love you Nintendo so much ❤️❤️❤️
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You really think this company is doing it for political reasons?
 
During each playthrough, they just ought to put onscreen the amount of money that the publisher is taking from the charity.

"Thanks to EA who are taking $0.00 (ZERO) in fees from this charity broadcast."

"Thanks to Activision who are taking $0.00 (ZERO) in fees from this charity broadcast."

"Thanks to Ubisoft who are taking $0.00 (ZERO) in fees from this charity broadcast."

"Thanks to Take-Two Interactive who are taking $0.00 (ZERO) in fees from this charity broadcast."

"Thanks to Nintendo who are taking $22,000 (twenty two thousand dollars) in fees from this charity broadcast. What a great bunch of lads."
 
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