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[tsumineko]

JESUS CHRIST.

Ok....my new Blu Player is ready to play movies when it has power. Same with my 3ds. The power cable makes it ready to meet its purpose.

Without it, both are just expensive bricks.

Well, both are ready to play games/movies with power... But without games and movies... I guess all that power goes to waste!

Hey, don't get upset, I was merely curious as to how Americans expected fully functioning devices in single boxes, when it hasn't happened in every case. Many consoles don't come with games, they are required to be purchased separately. There really is no reason to be upset.

 

[jamesinclair]

Oh dear sweet mother of fuck.

I think this thread had reached the climax

 

[Storm360]

No I am legit serious.

Your OCD answer had me realize that I am legit sitting here arguing that everyone should have my values and whatnot...which is exactly what I hate about other arguments on the internet and yet I fell for it.

I want to get back to enjoying my time on the internet instead of arguing especially arguments in which I am being a wrong asshole or expecting everyone to be me. It is a waste of everyones time.

again I need to get better at this.

No sarcasm

Yeah, it sucks that a thread on this is even necessary to start with.

Also the charger does not power the device, the batteries do. The charger recharges the batteries, which are at least partially charged out of the box. I also bolded whatever riddle you left in hopes that you or someone else can decipher it.

Every toy that's had a rechargeable battery pack has always had a way to charge it included in my experience, even cheap RC helicopters etc have had a charger included.

 

[Vena]

They give you a memory card in all new copies of Vita. Sheep are all the same.

You might want to check your facts.

 

[Sacul64GC]

If a parent buys a New 3DS from a Walmart or Target, there's a reasonable chance that the clerk-- who also deals with cameras, TVs, laptops, and other electronics-- probably isn't going to know (or remember) to warn about needing to buy a power supply.

"Hi, I want a New 3DS thing for my son."
"Here you go. That's $199.99 plus tax. Is that going to be debit or credit?"

Perhaps, in smaller or more specialized stores, staff will be trained to suggest the power supply to customers, but even then, it's likely not a 100% ask unless the Point of Sale system prompts the sale.

we actually got a lot of spillover traffic from Wallmart from them selling Vitas without ever mentioning the memory card of people asking why the system wont play games.

 

[Jazzy Network]

Yep, new 3DS is filtered internet. You have to pay money to get your boobs.
Have fun!
Edit: I bet NeoGAF is blocked by default.

Shit. Oh well. Not that it matters anyway. I can't charge the damn thing to give Nintendo my 50 cents. Damn!

 

[meanspartan]

Well, both are ready to play games/movies with power... But without games and movies... I guess all that power goes to waste!

Hey, don't get upset, I was merely curious as to how Americans expected fully functioning devices in single boxes, when it hasn't happened in every case. Many consoles don't come with games, they are required to be purchased separately. There really is no reason to be upset.

I hope Nintendo makes you buy controllers seperate next. And processor sold seperately too, install it yourself.

Lol. Ridiculous.

 

[TheSlySoul]

You might want to check your facts.

Oh yeah, 1 SKU doesn't have a memory card.
Total number of new 3DS that give you a charger: 0.
Internet is now filtered where you have to pay to unlock, unfiltered on Vita.
Sheep are all the same...

 

[Vena]

Shit. Oh well. Not that it matters anyway. I can't charge the damn thing to give Nintendo my 50 cents. Damn!

Yep, new 3DS is filtered internet. You have to pay money to get your boobs.
Have fun!
Edit: I bet NeoGAF is blocked by default.

That's credit card authentication, that money doesn't go to Nintendo. It goes to your credit card owner to confirm your authentic age and ownership of the card.

You're both becoming parodies. Please continue to entertain me.

Oh yeah, 1 SKU doesn't have a memory card.
Total number of new 3DS that give you a charger: 0.
Internet is now filtered where you have to pay to unlock, unfiltered on Vita.
Sheep are all the same...

Irrelevant. You were wrong. Now you are deflecting your own factual failing.

 

[dhlt25]

Yeah, it sucks that a thread on this is even necessary to start with.



Every toy that's had a rechargeable battery pack has always had a way to charge it included in my experience, even cheap RC helicopters etc have had a charger included.

obviously the solution is to not include the battery as well. What's another 9 bucks on top of that. Only a click away to add to your shopping cart

 

[Petrae]

Actually, no, parents are used to things not working out of the box and requiring additional power sources. Cause, you know, they buy toys for kids all the time. And a batteries can easily be more expensive than a 3DS charger. You are actually paying for what is in the box, your expectation to have everything you want in it is totes entitlement, so is your attitude as a consumer. That's okay, a lot of consumers feel super entitled. Most people who have ever worked retail know this. But, as I mentioned earlier, plenty of electronics do not necessarily come with everything you need to use it. So you are right, it isn't an American thing (even this situation is totally an american thing), it is a gamer thing. Or Nintendo-fan thing? To some, at least.

Also the charger does not power the device, the batteries do. The charger recharges the batteries, which are at least partially charged out of the box. I also bolded whatever riddle you left in hopes that you or someone else can decipher it.

And there you go. Satoru Iwata himself couldn't have said it better.

I'm done in here.

 

[tsumineko]

I hope Nintendo makes you buy controllers seperate next. And processor sold seperately too, install it yourself.

Lol. Ridiculous.

No, I agree with you that Nintendo should include the charger, but I don't agree that it's worth such massive uproar. The console costs $208 with a charger. If it's too much, don't buy it. Simple.

If you want to take a stand and not buy the thing because the single box doesn't include the charger then go right ahead. That's ridiculous.

 

[Laconic]

Fuck that. I held off buying $150 old 3DS XLs over the holiday period so I can get a new 3DS XL (my first "DS" handheld ever) and Nintendo tries to nickel and dime me? No. I'll wait for the new Nintendo handheld. I can't support these scummy anti-consumer practices. How much money are they saving? You can imagine their handheld is already very profitable. Doesn't the Vita come with a charger cable???

I fully agree with, and respect your decision.

I am sticking with my O. 3DS.

 

[GoaThief]

Yep, new 3DS is filtered internet. You have to pay money to get your boobs.
Have fun!
Edit: I bet NeoGAF is blocked by default.

I had to look this up as I thought it was just some random GAF humour. Oh boy!

That is only for Japan though, right?

 

[R-User!]

But it's a requirement of a complete working system, something Americans apparently expect in one box. Without a game the system is useless.

People like different games.

 

[Jazzy Network]

That's credit card authentication, that money doesn't go to Nintendo. It goes to your credit card owner to confirm your authentic age and ownership of the card.

You're both becoming parodies. Please continue to entertain me.



Irrelevant. You were wrong. Now you are deflecting your own factual failing.

Sorry not as informed as you are on the matter of porn on my 3DS

 

[hitmon]

Shit. Oh well. Not that it matters anyway. I can't charge the damn thing to give Nintendo my 50 cents. Damn!

Hah! So that's what Nintendo meant by saving the consumer money.

 

[Vena]

That is only for Japan though, right?

No. Its for everywhere as Nintendo uses credit card authentication to confirm the age of the user or the consent of the responsible party.

It leaves a paper trail to avoid lawsuits.

Sorry not as informed as you are on the matter of porn on my 3DS

Has nothing to do with porn. This is standard practice for authenticating a user because it gives Nintendo paperwork to point at if someone sues over something stupid.

 

[TheXfactor]

Okay y'all need to calm down, i don't like the charger not being with the bundle, no one loves it. But good god it is not a that much of a hassle, you just buy a charger if you are a new customer with it, and if your not and have an old charger, then don't buy it. so much hostility over 5 bucks.

 

[TheSlySoul]

And there you go. Satoru Iwata himself couldn't have said it better.

I'm done in here.

Same. I think some people are alts of Nintendo of Japan. The fact you need a CC to unblock internet is dumb.
I will be enjoying PS4 selling 60+ million LTD and Vita 10+ million LTD.

 

[Storm360]

obviously the solution is to not include the battery as well. What's another 9 bucks on top of that. Only a click away to add to your shopping cart

May as well be that case with the Wii U, but at least it works out the box

 

[Laconic]

Actually, no, parents are used to things not working out of the box and requiring additional power sources. Cause, you know, they buy toys for kids all the time. And a batteries can easily be more expensive than a 3DS charger. You are actually paying for what is in the box, your expectation to have everything you want in it is totes entitlement, so is your attitude as a consumer. That's okay, a lot of consumers feel super entitled. Most people who have ever worked retail know this. But, as I mentioned earlier, plenty of electronics do not necessarily come with everything you need to use it. So you are right, it isn't an American thing (even this situation is totally an american thing), it is a gamer thing. Or Nintendo-fan thing? To some, at least.

Also the charger does not power the device, the batteries do. The charger recharges the batteries, which are at least partially charged out of the box. I also bolded whatever riddle you left in hopes that you or someone else can decipher it.

Totes entitlement is the arrogant assumption that you shovel whatever incomplete shit out onto the market, and expect people to buy it.

Not this consumer, not this Nintendo Fan.

 

[Trike]

Oh dear sweet mother of fuck.

And there you go. Satoru Iwata himself couldn't have said it better.

I'm done in here.

That was in response to saying there was no way to power the device, and earlier claims by others that they want the device to work out of the box. Let's not pretend like the majority of people getting this thing don't already have one, or that buying a charger is some huge expense when the device itself, despite it's enhancements, is the same price as the prior device. And again, requiring additional components is not at all a new thing to electronics.

Totes entitlement is the arrogant assumption that you shovel whatever incomplete shit out onto the market, and expect people to buy it.

Not this consumer, not this Nintendo Fan.

Again, how it is incomplete? You are assuming that had they had bundled the charger with it we would be getting it for $200 and not a higher price. Video game systems make almost no money for the manufacturer, so it is not far-fetched to assume the price would go up. Not to mention that they specifically said that was the reason why they left it out.

 

[Mik317]

Same. I think some people are alts of Nintendo of Japan. The fact you need a CC to unblock internet is dumb.
I will be enjoying PS4 selling 60+ million LTD and Vita 10+ million LTD.

Is that what this is really about?

 

[TheSlySoul]

Is that what this is really about?

Nah, I am just messing around with them.
I would like to see Wii U pull GC numbers and 3DS pull GBA numbers, but probably not gonna happen. Too many mistakes.

Hasn't it been obvious for a while?

I have a 3DS XL and Wii U, but I am not a sheep. I think Nintendo is doing yet another stupid thing that will cost them sales. That is all.

 

[Vena]

Is that what this is really about?

Hasn't it been obvious for a while?

 

[GoaThief]

No. Its for everywhere

Well, that's a new 3ds off my shopping list permanently as I cannot see the content filter being changed to off or removed by default. May as well make it lock a game's age certification/rating to it as well for consistency, right?

Great stuff Nintendo, way to win over customers.

 

[I Stalk Alone]

This wouldn't be half the outrage if they used standard micro usb which everyone has a drawer full of.

Fuck off Nintendo

Not all chargers with a micro usb have the same power throughput, so just make sure you kbow what you use before you start complaining why your 3ds is taking so long to charge or why it suddenly stopped working.


But if you know what you are doing. $2 3ds charge cable.

http://www.dx.com/p/usb-charging-cable-for-nintendo-3ds-100cm-110857#.VLdQMfkzHqA

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

I think there's a difference between a 499$ investment where one has no internet connectivity, thus limiting the console usage to niente.

or

Purchase a 3DS adapter for 8$ for full usage

Anywho, Nintendo are lacking in some retrospects such as the missing adaptor, and strive in others. I've made my peace with it but understand people's opinion on the matter nonetheless.

It's a shitty thing to do.

You would defend any shit Nintendo does. Disgusting. And no, without an adapter the 3ds won't work. The Xbone came with an Ethernet and power cables. Nintendo is more anti consumerist than the Xbone.

 

[Vena]

Well, that's a new 3ds off my shopping list permanently as I cannot see the content filter being changed to off or removed by default. May as well make it lock a game's age certification/rating to it as well for consistency, right?

Great stuff Nintendo, way to win over customers.

Uh... okay then?

The filter is there for legal reasons, if 30c is apparently the breaker to you then all the more power to you I suppose. I can't, honestly, understand why such a thing would be a deal breaker but whatever.

 

[DesertEater]

I was pretty weird out by this decision, then I heard they were only 10 bucks.


Then I shrugged, and went on with my life.

This. I already own a DSi charger and the charger itself is not expensive. The fact that a regular size new 3DS is not coming to america is WAY more of a big deal than the charger thing.

 

[tsumineko]

Someone should make a list of everyone in this thread claiming they won't be buying the New 3DS now because of this news and periodically cross check it with future posts to see who is the real deal. It will be hilarious.

 

[Laconic]

Again, how it is incomplete? You are assuming that had they had bundled the charger with it we would be getting it for $200 and not a higher price. Video game systems make almost no money for the manufacturer, so it is not far-fetched to assume the price would go up. Not to mention that they specifically said that was the reason why they left it out.

I am, yes.

Much like I am assuming that the sun will appear to rise tomorrow morning.

Much like I assume Nintendo knows basic pricing psychology, and that they know a $215 price tag tends to evoke a "wait for a sale" mentality, much more than a $199 tag does.

 

[meanspartan]

Someone should make a list of everyone in this thread claiming they won't be buying the New 3DS now because of this news and periodically cross check it with future posts to see who is the real deal. It will be hilarious.

Im not. Might in the future if enough New exclusives happen, but they wont.

 

[Maximo]

Jesus I forgot about the 50c to Unlock Filters on your 3DS Browser.

Region Locked, Filters behind Paywall, No Power Adapter Included, No proper Account System. I really do hope with the WiiU failing and the 3DS failing to meet expectations it kicks Nintendo in the backside to stop with the anti consumer chock hold they seem to have.
However with the amazing sales of the Amiibos it seems like Nintendo is happy milking the Whales, I mean hell look at some of the Fans responses to this very thread.
I got a N3DSXL and the Power Adapter and a Game was included for free here in Australia so I didn't have the buy the Adapter thankfully. My First Nintendo Console/Handheld since the GBA/N64.

Very dramatic but almost regret buying it since im usually very against alot of Anti Consumer Practices, I really want to love Nintendo but god dam they make it hard on themselves.

 

[GoaThief]

The filter is there for legal reasons

What are those exactly? I don't see similar implemented on the Vita, smartphones, tablets, blah blah...

As for the little comment at the end, it's blatantly not about affordability so please don't pretend that's the case.

 

[Biker19]

The Lightning cable thing is particularly bad. I've bought third party cables (instead of paying apple THIRTY NINE DOLLARS) and an OS update has blocked them from working. That is ultimate shit-tier anti consumer stuff, IMO.

Oh come on, who are you trying to kid?

When Apple changed to Lightning cables and adapters, causing every iPad/iPhone accessory made up until that point to suddenly become obsolete, it caused a shitstorm of massive proportions.

And then charged a ridiculous price for the adapter which didn't even work on all accessories.

These are some of the reasons why I avoid buying Apple products.

 

[TheSlySoul]

Jesus I forgot about the 50c to Unlock Filters on your 3DS Browser.

Region Locked, Filters behind Paywall, No Power Adapter Included, No proper Account System. I really do hope with the WiiU failing and the 3DS failing to meet expectations it kicks Nintendo in the backside to stop with the anti consumer chock hold they seem to have.
However with the amazing sales of the Amiibos it seems like Nintendo is happy milking the Whales, I mean hell look at some of the Fans responses to this very thread.
I got a N3DSXL and the Power Adapter and a Game was included for free here in Australia so I didn't have the buy the Adapter thankfully. My First Nintendo Console/Handheld since the GBA/N64.

Very dramatic but almost regret buying it since im usually very against alot of Anti Consumer Practices, I really want to love Nintendo but god dam they make it hard on themselves.

We can reflect on Pikmin, Smash Melee, Advance Wars, and F-Zero.

 

[Laconic]

Someone should make a list of everyone in this thread claiming they won't be buying the New 3DS now because of this news and periodically cross check it with future posts to see who is the real deal. It will be hilarious.

Honestly?

Nintendo lost me at "Hell no

Spoiler

, you're not getting the Regular N3DS

."

But this would have done it, as well.

 

[CosmicQueso]

Someone should make a list of everyone in this thread claiming they won't be buying the New 3DS now because of this news and periodically cross check it with future posts to see who is the real deal. It will be hilarious.

What a crappy thing to say.

 

[EatinOlives]

Someone should make a list of everyone in this thread claiming they won't be buying the New 3DS now because of this news and periodically cross check it with future posts to see who is the real deal. It will be hilarious.

Yeah let's forum-stalk people for months and then cross check their posts months apart to see if there's any inconsistencies. That'll show them how petty they are and that they're taking online drama too seriously!

wait

 

[TheSlySoul]

Someone should make a list of everyone in this thread claiming they won't be buying the New 3DS now because of this news and periodically cross check it with future posts to see who is the real deal. It will be hilarious.

I seen people buy stuff just to Youtube it getting destroyed.
Logic makes no sense.

 

[Trike]

I am, yes.

Much like I am assuming that the sun will appear to rise tomorrow morning.

Much like I assume Nintendo knows basic pricing psychology, and that they know a $215 price tag tends to evoke a "wait for a sale" mentality, much more than a $199 tag does.

Or they could have gone for $229 like they have done in the past. But you know, the way where you pay less for more works too.

The are better things to upset with Nintendo, the lack of a >$10 charger shouldn't really warrant much of a response.

 

[Starfish Hero]

I usually don't side with the overly-dramatic "if you disagree with me you're a sheep" knee-jerk on GAF, but Nintendo is being overly stingy with this. It really would not cost them that much to just include the charger.

 

[GoaThief]

What a crappy thing to say.

Has said poster contributed anything but?

Someone should check if they do otherwise in the future...

 

[Revolutionary]

Someone should make a list of everyone in this thread claiming they won't be buying the New 3DS now because of this news and periodically cross check it with future posts to see who is the real deal. It will be hilarious.

Why don't you do it since you're so passionate about this subject? 23 posts in this thread alone - that's some dedication.

 

[KiefbladeMaster]

Someone should make a list of everyone in this thread claiming they won't be buying the New 3DS now because of this news and periodically cross check it with future posts to see who is the real deal. It will be hilarious.

I was going to preorder one until I found out about this. I can get an XL with the charger included for $170 tops right now. I really doubt the hardware warrants that much of an increase, it's incredibly old already.

 

[TheSlySoul]

Why don't you do it since you're so passionate about this subject? 23 posts in this thread alone - that's some dedication.

Indeed. I am just having fun. I guess I should not poke the bear. The bear does what it wants.
As a last comment, the PR statement is stupid. Bye!

 

[Laconic]

Or they could have gone for $229 like they have done in the past. But you know, the way where you pay less for more works too.

The are better things to upset with Nintendo, the lack of a >$10 charger shouldn't really warrant much of a response.

God knows that price point sold like hotcakkes.

There are lots of things to be upset with Nintendo about. The lack of a charger is another kick in the fans' testicles, and ought not be dismissed as if it were nothing.

 

[tengiants]

Okay y'all need to calm down, i don't like the charger not being with the bundle, no one loves it. But good god it is not a that much of a hassle, you just buy a charger if you are a new customer with it, and if your not and have an old charger, then don't buy it. so much hostility over 5 bucks.

It's not 5 dollars. It's a symbol of the deep hatred and resent Nintendo has for their customers. Wii U doesn't play blu-rays either. They obviously stopped caring about video games and just want your money.