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Official 2008 Olympics Thread - 1936, the Remix

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firex

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deepbrown said:
It's amazing. And it's racing...we need more racing! And every country can play it easily, allowing amateurs to play. Baseball is USA all the way.
absolutely not. USA's baseball team is minor leaguers/college players, and baseball is global. the only reason it's going to be dropped is because no European nation can field a good team so they're all voting against it.
 

firex

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I'm disappointed China couldn't win. I really wanted them to somehow match up against Spain and beat them down in a rematch.
 

deepbrown

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Nolan. said:
I'll tell you which ones they should get rid of



Fensing:...
Equestrian: ...
Boxing:... it's just a big joke at the olympics plain and simple
Sailing: It just seems to depend more on chance than anything else. I'd rather have water skiing, boarding or even banana boat racing. At least they'd be more interesting to watch.
Boxing? That's one of the oldest sports at the Olympics...and it seems to work...and one of the few that actually involves Amateurs.

Sailing is chance? Really? Then how do you explain our GB guy winning three golds in a row?
 

deepbrown

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Karakand said:
Lots of people outside the United States. Don't be an ignorant cunt.
Stop being an eejit. It was sarcasm to mimic the idiocy in the post I was replying to. And what's lots of people anyway?

Here's a question for you. What's the most popular sport outside of football/soccer?
 

Karakand

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woodchuck said:
except the rangers :(
All they need is a pitching staff and they're set!

deepbrown said:
Stop being an eejit. It was sarcasm to mimic the idiocy in the post I was replying to. And what's lots of people anyway?

Here's a question for you. What's the most popular sport outside of football/soccer?
How do you want to define popularity? Attendance? NPB outdraws Serie A per game.
 

avaya

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seanoff said:
really only as stupid as your arguments against swimming and cycling. Hopefully something might register that just because you aren't interested, doesn't mean that others can't be or that the sport/event does not have some merit.

track cycling has a history almost as long as the bicycle itself. the different swimming strokes are as different technically as anything in gymastics so why not. and a 200 fly compared to a 50 free is like the difference between a men 100m sprint and a 3000m steeplechase.

Not even close. Swimming medals have increased for no justifiable reason at all. Back, breast and butterfly are redundant strokes. No comeback to that one.

Too many superflous events. Not saying there isn't any merit to them but they are not needed. It's extra padding and it's tedious.

Do not even begin to compare gynmastics to swimming. Do not even go there.

EDIT: Don’t compare a steeplechase to fly vs. free. In a hurdling event there is a physical obstacle. In fly you are trying to be fastest by swimming in a ridiculous fashion. Really the single most inefficient stroke possible. Redundant. Absolutely redundant.
 

linsivvi

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deepbrown said:
Sailing is chance? Really? Then how do you explain our GB guy winning three golds in a row?

Because he's never watched sailing and just assumed it's pure chance. You have 10 races + the medal race and you throw away the worst record. There's much less chance than say archery and shooting.

Why are people arguing cutting down the number of medals for swimming and track and field? It's not going to happen. Considering how much money the host nations put into each Olympics, they need the TV ratings to recuperate the cost.
 

xabre

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Team USA should be happy they're facing a team that's making them work. Not just fastbreak -> fastbreak -> fastbreak like usual.
 

deepbrown

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linsivvi said:
Because he's never watched sailing and just assumed it's pure chance. You have 10 races + the medal race and you throw away the worst record. There's much less chance than let's say archery and shooting.
Well not sure about the last bit, but it certainly isn't chance. The strongest sailors always reach the top, since as you said, it's based on 10 races for each competition.
 

deepbrown

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avaya said:
Not even close. Swimming medals have increased for no justifiable reason at all. Back, breast and butterfly are redundant strokes. No comeback to that one.

Too many superflous events. Not saying there isn't any merit to them but they are not needed. It's extra padding and it's tedious.

Do not even begin to compare gynmastics to swimming. Do not even go there.
Back, breast and butterfly are redundant strokes? What? Why? They are completely different to freestyle, thus they have their own races. You're talking absolute bollocks.
 
Nolan. said:
I'll tell you which ones they should get rid of



Fensing:...
Equestrian: ...
Boxing:... it's just a big joke at the olympics plain and simple
Sailing: It just seems to depend more on chance than anything else. I'd rather have water skiing, boarding or even banana boat racing. At least they'd be more interesting to watch.
Taekwondo. After watching a few matches, the judging seems as messed up as boxing. A match between a Canadian girl and a Swedish chick completely baffled me. The Swedish chick landed on clean kick, but her other point was off a pretty flimsy kick. The Canadian was constantly attacking and landed several flimsy kicks of her own. If they're only awarding hard, clean hits, then maybe the Swedish girl wins, but at least one of her points was questionable. A protest was launched but unsurprisingly rejected.

Perhaps pressure-sensing technology + judges is the way to go.
 

deepbrown

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Karakand said:
All they need is a pitching staff and they're set!


How do you want to define popularity? Attendance? NPB outdraws Serie A per game.
Well, since the BBC is my source, I'm not sure of their criteria. Their answer is Beach Volleyball. :) Perhaps it's about worldwide sports...as football is played in nearly every village and town.
 

linsivvi

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deepbrown said:
Well, since the BBC is my source, I'm not sure of their criteria. Their answer is Beach Volleyball. :) Perhaps it's about worldwide sports...as football is played in nearly every village and town.

The correct answer is cricket. But please don't go there. :p
 

avaya

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deepbrown said:
Back, breast and butterfly are redundant strokes? What? Why? They are completely different to freestyle, thus they have their own races. You're talking absolute bollocks.

The aim of a race is to go as fast as possible. Freestyle wins. The other three are pointless. No comeback to this one. Logical failure in swimming.
 

Karakand

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deepbrown said:
Well, since the BBC is my source, I'm not sure of their criteria. Their answer is Beach Volleyball. :) Perhaps it's about worldwide sports...as football is played in nearly every village and town.
My general rule of thumb is the less equipment required to play the sport, the more popular it will be worldwide. (e.g. Football, volleyball, basketball, etc.)

Baseball is still played on half the habitable continents though, tough to really say it's a niche sport. The main reason it's been axed is because MLB won't support it.
 

Pachael

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I think we'll only be happy if the sports that get in are ones that your country can win, rather than the other way around. Oh well!

AUS getting beat down by USA in basketball :(
 

Nolan.

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deepbrown said:
Boxing? That's one of the oldest sports at the Olympics...and it seems to work...and one of the few that actually involves Amateurs.

Sailing is chance? Really? Then how do you explain our GB guy winning three golds in a row?
Boxing at the olympics really shouldn't be called boxing. As for sailing I said it seems to rely more on chance than anything based from what iv'e seen, and yes iv'e watched it. If the skill involved isn't immediately obvious then excuse my ignorance but I still don't get how chance is not an valid factor. It's also uninteresting to me and doesn't really get an audience involved at all and therefore likely to not be of interest to me personally.


OpinionatedCyborg said:
Taekwondo. After watching a few matches, the judging seems as messed up as boxing. A match between a Canadian girl and a Swedish chick completely baffled me. The Swedish chick landed on clean kick, but her other point was off a pretty flimsy kick. The Canadian was constantly attacking and landed several flimsy kicks of her own. If they're only awarding hard, clean hits, then maybe the Swedish girl wins, but at least one of her points was questionable. A protest was launched but unsurprisingly rejected.

Perhaps pressure-sensing technology + judges is the way to go.

Both Taekwondo and Judo, i was going to mention those two but at least they're seem a little interesting... a little.
 

woodchuck

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avaya said:
The aim of a race is to go as fast as possible. Freestyle wins. The other three are pointless. No comeback to this one. Logical failure in swimming.

i have to agree.

im not sure what the point is all the different strokes in swimming. it's not like they have separate events for each high jump technique
 

deepbrown

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Wow...BBC reporter Brendan Foster just had an outburst about how shit GB middle and long distance runners have done. Saying that the organisation has let us down. We did do crap, so fair play to him for calling them out.
 
legend166 said:
What do you expect them to do?

Lay down and take it like one of Kobe's bitches?

Well, I can see what you're saying. If you're down 10 and trying to get in their head, I could see that working and it has its merits. But when you're down 20+? Makes you look like a loser.
 

deepbrown

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Nolan. said:
Boxing at the olympics really shouldn't be called boxing. As for sailing I said it seems to rely more on chance than anything based from what iv'e seen, and yes iv'e watched it. If the skill involved isn't immediately obvious then excuse my ignorance but I still don't get how chance is not an valid factor. It's also uninteresting to me and doesn't really get an audience involved at all and therefore likely to not be of interest to me personally.




Both Taekwondo and Judo, i was going to mention those two but at least they're seem a little interesting... a little.
It's chance at what conditions on the water you get, but everyone on the water gets the same conditions on the day....and it's how good they are at dealing with them that gets the winners. Since it's best of 10 races to win a medal, there are often two sailors right at the top of the field, way ahead of everyone else. And they didn't get there by chance, they got their through skill, tactics and feel for the water and conditions.
 

Darkman M

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legend166 said:
What do you expect them to do?

Lay down and take it like one of Kobe's bitches?


No maybe he should shut the fuck up and play basketball and maybe try not to lose by 40 points. What can you say when your getting shitted on by 30? Nonthin.
 

X26

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OpinionatedCyborg said:
Taekwondo. After watching a few matches, the judging seems as messed up as boxing. A match between a Canadian girl and a Swedish chick completely baffled me. The Swedish chick landed on clean kick, but her other point was off a pretty flimsy kick. The Canadian was constantly attacking and landed several flimsy kicks of her own. If they're only awarding hard, clean hits, then maybe the Swedish girl wins, but at least one of her points was questionable. A protest was launched but unsurprisingly rejected.

Perhaps pressure-sensing technology + judges is the way to go.

Yea I saw that match, it was rediculous
 

legend166

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pheeniks said:
Well, I can see what you're saying. If you're down 10 and trying to get in their head, I could see that working and it has its merits. But when you're down 20+? Makes you look like a loser.

We were doing it earlier when we were down by 10. If you start doing it early in the game, you can't stop halfway.
 

deepbrown

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avaya said:
The aim of a race is to go as fast as possible. Freestyle wins. The other three are pointless. No comeback to this one. Logical failure in swimming.
Uh...surely you are missing the point here. You don't swim different discilpines against each other...if you did then it'd all be freestyle, since they get different times you put them in different events. And you get specialists in each who continue to break the world records. I personally hate freestyle, but I love backstroke.

I mean you can throw a javelin further than a shot put...but it doesn't mean you say "no to shot put"

If it's only freestyle you can chop swimmers down by half, because they are a hell of a lot of swimmers who prefer and excell at other strokes. You'd even rule out quite a few nations: eg. China excel at breaststroke.

Pachael said:
Sucked in - Craig Mottram doesn't make it to the 5K final. :(
Sucks. That kid just steamed off.
 
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