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Official 2008 Olympics Thread - 1936, the Remix
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avaya said:
Here's a logical comeback. 1. It's about speed, but it's also about speed in different disciplines. Throwing something is about throwing something as far as you can, but there's different disciplines - discus, javelin, shot-put and hammer. They are different events.
2. Different individuals are good at different strokes. Not everyone excels at freestyle and those who do would dominate the races, putting everyone out of a career. And children like to experiement to find what they're most good at - if they're told they can only swim freestyle, then they'll just say "fuck swimming". The amount of athletes would halve.
3. It would be very boring to watch. I hate watching freestyle. It bores me. The variety brings ratings.
You're talking out of your ass, and even though you profess the "logical argument", there's no less logic in mine than there is yours. In fact, here's an argument:
4. Without the other strokes swimming would be dead. Less athletes, less interest, less ratings, less money.
And that's all that matters chap - swimming needs these strokes, even though all you care about is what stroke is faster. Just because you can only swim freestyle, doesn't mean atheletes who specialise in other disciplines shouldn't get to compete. Remember this. If Swimming followed your rules, there would be no swimming. End of.
The man just broke the 100m and 200m WRs within the span of a few days. The last athlete to even get gold on both of those events was Carl Lewis when I was still shitting in my nappy. He is already a legend of the track & field, if Jamaica wins the 4 x 100m relay it'll just be icing on the cake.Jeff-DSA said:
Jeff-DSA said:
Bolt won gold in all events he competed in (will probably win gold in the 4X100 too), same as Phelps. Bolt doesn't have the luxury of having a ton of redundant medal opportunities like Phelps to pad his medal count.
Setting new WR's in the 100m and 200m is, imo, a much bigger accomplishment than anything a swimmer can ever do.
OpinionatedCyborg
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Bolt > Phelps
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please don't. But honestly, Usain blew me away... Phelps is insanely good but he didn't leave my mouth agape. Whatever, they're both incredible.
Aruarian Reflection
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X26 said:
Took the words right out of my mouth. His 100m was amazing, but breaking the 200m WR just confirmed it for me.
And lol @ sp0rsk calling me anti-American. Go back to my list of 4 hopes that I posted in this thread before the Olympics started. Phelps winning all 8 was on my list.
rooflapimp
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Bolt is the superstar of these Olympic Games. You would have to wear Phelps-tinted glasses to say otherwise.
seattle6418
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Wow, that made me realize how awesome Michael Johnson's record was. I rightfully guessed martina would get second, i just thought Dix would get the bronze. As for the americans, they could all have run 19'70, but instead chose the olympics to do a 19'95.
And Sheena Tosta in the other race, just completely ran out of gas. Tiffany Ross... cramps or hurdles, wtf?
U.S track and fail team needs some retooling? are they well paid? what's happening? can't BALCO give them a hand?
And Sheena Tosta in the other race, just completely ran out of gas. Tiffany Ross... cramps or hurdles, wtf?
U.S track and fail team needs some retooling? are they well paid? what's happening? can't BALCO give them a hand?
Napoleonthechimp
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I'm not even going to engage in any more dialogue with you (or any other Australian for that matter) because... fuck it, I'm not even going to explain.jey_16 said:
The fact that Americans on here are complaining about the typical Australian arrogance and poor attitude shows there's a big problem in the Australian psyche that isn't just limited to the "good natured attack" on Britain.
ForzaItalia
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Phelps and Bolt will merge the two disciplines as women sprint towards them with legs wide open while the two are swimming in pussy...
Incidentally, while everyone's playing up the Phelps achievements, I've heard no mention of what the women's equivalent record is. Anyone know?
And given the bickering going on, I clearly have to say Hoy > Phelps + Bolt. Not that I actually think that, I'm just feeling left out.
And given the bickering going on, I clearly have to say Hoy > Phelps + Bolt. Not that I actually think that, I'm just feeling left out.
Darth Sonik
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I think they are holding Bolts ceremony on his Birthday tomorrow. That's a nice gesture.
deepbrown said:Thanks
I'd missed out Modern Pentathlon, a sport I love just because the disciplines involved get really weird (Equestrian, shooting *and* athletics? Gloriously bizarre, it's like the Posh Medley). To be honest, I don't know if we've all that much potential there, but I know we've won in the past.
Unexpected bronze for us in that hurdles, too.
SolidSnakex
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:lol @ The gap between Bolt and everyone else.
chickensoup
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Redgrave is a better pick than Hoy - golds at 5 successive Olympics, and all that. Shows strength and consistency more than any number of golds in the same event does ;-)mclem said:
But it's a stupid argument any way.
seattle6418
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Funny, at the same time on the last olympics, the U.S had the same 13 medals on track and field (26 of 47 events). only difference was 4 golds instead of 3. So there is still some hope for a respectable result.
Darth Sonik
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Syth_Blade22 said:
They will have to make do with John Lennon at a pinch.:lol
Applying a value system in which gold = 10 pts., silver = 5 pts., and bronze = 3 pts. Here's how I rank the top 10 countries up to 12am Thursday morning Beijing time.
Rank.Country....Gold....Silver....Bronze......Total Points
1......China........45........14.........20..............580
2......USA..........26........27.........28..............479
3......Russia.......13........14.........18..............254
4......G.Britain....16........10..........11.............243
5......Australia....11........12.........13..............209
6......Germany...11.........8...........9...............177
7......S.Korea......8.........10..........6...............148
8......France........4.........12.........14..............142
9......Japan.........8..........6...........9...............137
10....Italy...........6..........7...........7...............116
Rank.Country....Gold....Silver....Bronze......Total Points
1......China........45........14.........20..............580
2......USA..........26........27.........28..............479
3......Russia.......13........14.........18..............254
4......G.Britain....16........10..........11.............243
5......Australia....11........12.........13..............209
6......Germany...11.........8...........9...............177
7......S.Korea......8.........10..........6...............148
8......France........4.........12.........14..............142
9......Japan.........8..........6...........9...............137
10....Italy...........6..........7...........7...............116
The captain of the English cricket team is South African.
That should tell you all you need to know about English sport.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMa6ZBdmSlU
That should tell you all you need to know about English sport.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMa6ZBdmSlU
X26 said:
Well, Bolt's achievements have been done before...Phelp's haven't been until now. Bigger significance? Pretty obvious.
If swimmers have redundant opportunities to win extra medals, why hasn't anybody else won 8 before? Oh, because it's not that easy, I guess. Use your brains, son.
chickensoup
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Can you fix your weightings so we regain our rightful place at third in the table, please?Laguna X said:
Bolt > Phelp
I don't want to explain it because I'm not going to change my mind.
But if you want to know it's because 100m is the single most important competition in term of human pushing to the physical limit. I don't care if you can jump 5 meters with a pole or get 10.0 from all 10 judges in water synchronize dancing, I don't care. They don't mean anything to me except being part of the penis contest amount nations.
I don't want to explain it because I'm not going to change my mind.
But if you want to know it's because 100m is the single most important competition in term of human pushing to the physical limit. I don't care if you can jump 5 meters with a pole or get 10.0 from all 10 judges in water synchronize dancing, I don't care. They don't mean anything to me except being part of the penis contest amount nations.
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