ElBoxyBrown
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Or Zen getting caught by Junkrat's trap. Or Tracer not being able to rewind when she's caught in the trap. Or Reaper being allowed to get healing packs in Wraith Form.
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Or Zen getting caught by Junkrat's trap. Or Tracer not being able to rewind when she's caught in the trap. Or Reaper being allowed to get healing packs in Wraith Form.
how does this work for you tho when he gets up into you and plants a flashbang
But Mccree should not be a counter for a tank.
Winston is like 50/50, if McCree gets the stun you're toast, but if you shield the stun McCree is toast.
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The Omega Man
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Agree, Like I said, cooldown will just make his rolling ability useless, They might be very close of rendering McCree useless with a wrong implementation. If whatever they do makes him very difficult to kill the opponent people will move onto other characters and he will be forgotten, whatever they do I hope it doesn't make him useless.
packy34
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That's my point. That's one of his counters. He's going to lose at range every time. There's nothing wrong with having a character that's strong at close range and decent at mid range. Even a good roadhog can chain and kill him in a single shot. He only has 200 health, people. He has one of the slowest movement speeds in the game. Turrets, range, explosives and speed wreck him.
i'm not saying mccree needs a nerf, i'm not saying he doesn't - either
but assuming one needs to happen, how about a slight drop off in sequential damage from the fan?
something like each subsequent bullet that connects from the fan of hammer does slightly less damage
something that, when scaled appropriately, would still allow stun/fan kills on most characters, but would negate massive damage to tank types
this would also force players to master the kickback on the fan, in order to maximize its efficiency
but assuming one needs to happen, how about a slight drop off in sequential damage from the fan?
something like each subsequent bullet that connects from the fan of hammer does slightly less damage
something that, when scaled appropriately, would still allow stun/fan kills on most characters, but would negate massive damage to tank types
this would also force players to master the kickback on the fan, in order to maximize its efficiency
Demoskinos
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And if that's the case that's why I keep his Primal Rage ult in my back pocket. About to die? Nah. Now I have 1000 health and I'm going to punch you off the stage.
montycliff13
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Time to check out what's up in the Overwatch OT:
Never change, GAF <3
Never change, GAF <3
ViewtifulJC
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If you gotta pop your Ult every time a solo McCree shows up around the corner, I think you might need to rethink your character selection.
So the counter to McCree is to just have your ult up every time you run into him and not be a character that he can stun out of their ult! Idk how nobody thought of that before!
Some of the replies in that topic are cringe worthy, especially that Mei one. Don't fight McCree as Mei you doof. Look at the damn character scoreboard to see what they have.
What is wrong with people just making the logical choice of not one on one engaging a character? Thats like wanting my Pharah to have a fighting chance agaisnt Widow, I'll just switch to Tracer. These people I tell ya.
So people also complain that his ult disrupts formations and goes to 50 if he saves it. Yet Winston heals and really screws up formations (which I'm okay with). Out of over 200 matches and 100 wins I have never seen an incredibly good McCree and I was only good when I uses him like they want you to. A tank should not be hiding in holes with out support were McCree can get to them, they deserve to die doing stuff like that.
Add 2 more secs to his cool downs. And prevent flashbank from effecting sheilds if they want to do anything.
umm, grenades and rockets on direct hits do 120, mccree has 200 health, it was not a single junkrat shot that killed you unless you were already at or under 120.
McCree can double fan Winston to death before he gets out of the stun.
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meanspartan
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Not a bad point I guess.
I dunno, overall the game feels pretty good right now, and I want them to be VERY hesitant to mess with that even if there are some imperfections.
I say this as a WoW PVP veteran who had to endure years of "class of the month" patches fucking with the game so that there was always a current top class. This makes me nervous when I hear about people demanding nerfs to a character that anecdotally I don't seem to die to all that much more than any other.
I admit though that if you are seeing two Mcrees on a team of pros like some on here have said, that is indicative of a problem.
rip my immersion
Time to check out what's up in the Overwatch OT:
Never change, GAF <3
there is only one thing I'm salty about and that's the hanzo arrow hitbox >>
Shields already block flashbang, but at least against Reinhardt you can lob it over his shield and it will hit his head which stuns him and drops the shield.
packy34
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Not if it explodes near your head. Double damage.
the replays are borked on that I think. I never hit shots that I see myself getting hit by.
Not Spaceghost
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You know what would make genji's ult more pleasant to use and actually just generally better?
If the camera shifted into 3rd person when you activated it.
If the camera shifted into 3rd person when you activated it.
I mean, an Ult will allow a ton of people to win 1v1 duels, so Winston wouldn't be anything special in that regard either. Also, meter management. One Ult popped = one less chance for your team to make a good push on a point/move the payload to that crucial checkpoint at the last ten seconds.
What? I'm pretty sure explosives can't headshot. I mean then most bodyshots would also be headshots.
packy34
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I'm pretty sure pharah can get headshots.
Tyrant Rave
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I would prefer if they made the FOV wider or something. It feels... Cramped. I like the FPS view for his dash attack.
bobbychalkers
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First Legendary skin drop....its exactly the one I wanted
Destiny is still king. Bungie perfected the art of first and third person perspective changes in context with your actions.
Princess Carl
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Demoskinos
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Didn't say I did but its worth keeping around for when you really need it. Maybe the McCree players I've faced so are all bad because I've outplayed the majority of them as Winston. Regardless I've yet to be in a situation where I won't try jumping in on a McCree
backflip10019
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I love how Reaper absolutely shits on Roadhog. Nothing feels better than being hooked by a Roadhog and then dual shotgunning him.
Throw it over reinhart's shield, stun
Throw it at Genji's foot , stun.
Learning something new every day.
Destiny-style. I agree, I can't see shit when he's swinging his sword around.
If this game had Destiny's gameplay, it'd be GOAT. I love OW but I have to admit it feels a bit clunky by comparison. Alas, everything does.
Shake Appeal
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Mobius and pet octopus
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A stronger genji ult? No thanks. That thing is already off the wall good if you're good with it. Changing it to third person just increases your situational awareness too much and his attacks are already super easy to land due to a huge arc/aoe hitbox.
Pharah does significantly more damage on direct hits but I don't think she gets a headshot bonus.
ADS? Fuck no.
meanspartan
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If we wanna talk nerfs they should nerf Bastion.
Not the character, but how often they get POTG. I feel like half the time my Bastion friend gets it lol. As Lucio Ive gotten it once ever, by knocking 3 guys at once off the map. We dont have a mass revive so our gradual AOE healing doesnt lend itself to POTG lol.
Not the character, but how often they get POTG. I feel like half the time my Bastion friend gets it lol. As Lucio Ive gotten it once ever, by knocking 3 guys at once off the map. We dont have a mass revive so our gradual AOE healing doesnt lend itself to POTG lol.
Dragon blade is janky but you have access to your other skills so thats why you stay in first person, you can chain dashes after you get kills and reflect to safely close distances to your next target.
Its unfortunate but they need enemies to flinch. It feels like I'm swinging cardboard.
Mobius and pet octopus
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no it doesn't, it's 120, theres no headshots for nades/rockets. A headshot is indicated with your croshairs going into a red x (as opposed to the white x on a hit). Grenades and rockets can't headshot If you want to test it out, go into a game in training to the practice range
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