Night Angel
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Just hit 9 and I've gotten 3 legendary skins: Nevermore Reaper, Stunt Driver Soldier 76, and Ra floaty monk guy. Too bad the only guy I get to play is Lucio (why you no heal, randoms).
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Tyrant Rave
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Top: McCree, Lucio
High: Rein, Widow
Everyone else: Everyone else
Bottom: D.Va
Top four are staples in every game and are always safe picks and always useful if they play well. Winston and Zarya are very strong too.
Whoa, this is wildly different than what I've seen. I wonder if it's a console vs. PC thing? I see tons of Roadhogs, that one being so low strikes me as especially odd.Well, the post did ask for my opinion. That said...
MagicWithEarvin
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Gah, was looking to play on PS4 tonight. How long have the servers been down?
SuperAndroid17
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Blizzard really needs to fix Matchmaking...50% w/l rate is bullshit. Every time time I win.. im guaranteed to get grouped with noobs the next game.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I was gonna say before the edit, Symmetra is like in 2 entirely separate tiers depending on whether you're attacking or defending.
She's got her good control maps, too. Dynamite on Night Market.
Actually, it's... pretty much just Night Market, now that I think about it. Fair enough.
Well, the post did ask for my opinion. That said...
Lucio's average pick rate is not significantly different from McCree's (compare them to the next most common pick), and he gets most of it from being picked excessively on King of the Hill maps. McCree suffers on King of the Hill, but he dominates both offense and defense on capture and payload maps. Lucio can be confidently said to be dominant in KotH, but McCree is pretty clearly the best hero in the game if people are picking him more than 100% of the time in every situation other than King of the Hill.
http://www.planetoverwatch.org/11-overwatch-hero-meta-report-the-grand-beta-review
The real difference though is that Lucio is one of three legit healers and you pretty much need one of those three in every team. Even if you need "attackers", you have six options and realistically Hanzo and Junkrat could also be classed as offensive IMO but fit just fine where they are. They do good damage. So that kinda skews those results IMO.
It says "Competitive" overwatch, so presumably pro players in tournaments
JStein0222
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This is real heartbreak
ShadowsFell
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We've played.
Are you going to be on tonight? I'm thinking of hopping on a for at least a few games in the next 15 minutes or so.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
There's one Ilios map that Symmetra's really good on. The one where the point is in the building on the cliff with the open sides. Her and Winston work super well there together.
I've never tried her on Night Market. She's my most narrow hero and I don't even consider using her outside of defense and only for the first point.
I guess it could work but really, why wouldn't I just pick Lucio/Pharah to knock people off the stage?
So I was taking a day off from Overwatch today because I've been pretty busy and sometimes I just need a break from playing games, and I was catching up on some Overwatch community content. Saw the honest trailer, got a couple chuckles out of it. Anyways I came across a Unit Lost video who I've watched a couple videos of and they had one talking about a Kotaku article about how Kotaku ranked characters and I remember reading it and laughing, but in this video the guy is just railing on it and he's really upset and I don't get it. As far as I can tell the kotaku list is an ongoing gag making fun of top "n" lists and then I was reading the comments on the video and it was full of hate towards Kotaku and I'm just thinking to myself, "I thought the community for this game was better than this?" Everyone here on GAF in this thread has been super cool. So what's the deal? Did I just take a wrong turn somewhere and see the bad part of the community or was I just blind to some of this vitriol?
The Strokes
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I hate attaking on Anubis, but once we get passed the first line of defenders, most of the time they panic and we get the win.
MyNameIsRye
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Of course the kids go to bed early, and I have all night to play...only to see the PS4 servers are down. smh.
Well, the post did ask for my opinion. That said...
Lucio's average pick rate is not significantly different from McCree's (compare them to the next most common pick), and he gets most of it from being picked excessively on King of the Hill maps. McCree suffers on King of the Hill, but he dominates both offense and defense on capture and payload maps. Lucio can be confidently said to be dominant in KotH, but McCree is pretty clearly the best hero in the game if people are picking him more than 100% of the time in every situation other than King of the Hill.
http://www.planetoverwatch.org/11-overwatch-hero-meta-report-the-grand-beta-review
Mei being last makes me sad. She's so good.
Chronospherics
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I don't agree with you about Hanzo and Junkrat, the difference with defenders and attackers is that they require enemies to walk into their space / sightlines, and can't aggressively push anywhere near as successfully as attackers. So they are not the the same as other offensive options in that regard.
Problem with that is that the attackers are also great area denial threats in themselves. So they fit the role of both attackers and defenders, crushing tanks and others as they push onto the defended area, while being versatile enough to be successful aggressively, pushing through and initiating close and mid range engagements.
Night Angel
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I can honestly say I've never been killed by one.
Are you sure? Not unintentionally by one on your team?
EroticSushi
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New merch
Liberty4all
Banned
Can't get in on PS4. Message at login days they are experiencing latency problems
When you try to ghost form away as reaper and you can't seem to move backwards... until you see your teammei-t's wall behind you.
Alcotholic
Banned
https://youtu.be/21g0KGF0ACo
I'm sure this was shared, but I'm busting up. I hope I get in a match like this sometime.
I'm sure this was shared, but I'm busting up. I hope I get in a match like this sometime.
Ideally you'd know how to play some characters very well and have enough understanding of a few other characters so that you can use them when required. Usually if the team is calling for a specific character to be used, it's because they're the hard counter to whatever the opposing team has. In that situation, you just have to be good enough at the character to do specifically what they're made for. I'm not a good Genji but I can also least swap to him for a life to take out a Bastion if need be and then go back to whatever character I like once the team has pushed ahead.
But naturally you can't reasonably expect this of the random players you were paired against, and you can't expect everyone to know how to use ever character. I can't do shit as a Widowmaker, personally.
I will say I don't think Mei is that bad. McCree and Lucio being the two top characters is going to make Mei look really bad because she doesn't do that well against either. Mei is also just, you know, tactical, and I wouldn't be surprised if it took a while for competitive to figure her out. Lee Sin wasn't always the best jungler in the game either.
Symmetra is more of a snowbally character in those maps to me. While you can get clutch knock off kills, once you get control of the point and wait for the next wave from the other team the turrets just make everything more annoying to wrestle the point back. The teleporter is also nice here since the other team wants to be getting near and fighting for the point, not tele hunting...but if they leave it up it's hard to get momentum back.
Night Angel
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Maybe when she sets up a wall and blocks me alone with the enemy and cuts off my escape. Then again, I've probably only run into a handful of them.
packy34
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If that's where you'd enjoy the game most, yes.
Though it does have a few extra things on PC - leaving games as a group is probably the biggest difference.
ZeroMaverick
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PS4 servers are back up
styl3s
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If that Winston plush came with like an exclusive skin like the bikini stitches i would buy it in a second but as it is, it ain't worth $40.New merch
And is it just me or does that Lunar symbol look like a pokeball? Def picking up a couple shirts.
This is competitive play, not normal play. Obviously us plebes will play whoever we want and it won't make much difference, although you do see a lot of McCrees and Lucios.
New merch
boring. why are they using the player icons? they should use the spray art.
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After 40 levels my personal tier list:
McCree tier: McCree
S tier: Lucio, Mercy
A tier: Tracer, Pharah, Soldier76, Mei, Widowmaker, Reinhardt
B tier: Roadhog, Hanzo, Winston, Reaper, Torborn, Bastion, Genji, Junkrat
C tier: D.Va, Zarya, Zenyatta
Symmetra tier: Symmetra
McCree tier: McCree
S tier: Lucio, Mercy
A tier: Tracer, Pharah, Soldier76, Mei, Widowmaker, Reinhardt
B tier: Roadhog, Hanzo, Winston, Reaper, Torborn, Bastion, Genji, Junkrat
C tier: D.Va, Zarya, Zenyatta
Symmetra tier: Symmetra
packy34
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I don't understand what metrics they're using for "competitive play". Official ranked isn't available yet and I'm not aware of any official tournament scene.
Bear Force One
Banned
Maybe slowly. Still down here and no works from BlizzCS.
ChoklitCow
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In competitive he's basically someone that the other team is able to farm their ult off of because of his health pool.
There have been a lot of tournaments, even through beta. There was even one last weekend sponsored by Dolby with a people from Blizz e-sports in attendance.
Bear Force One
Banned
Unless you're a stream junkie, competitive play is fairly meaningless.
ShadowsFell
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Anyone on Xbox One want to party up for some games? We've got three of us so far.
packy34
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Then they aren't marketing it very well. Haven't seen anything from Blizz at all about officially sanctioned tourneys.
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