Why would you run right at him? You should be hugging corners with McCree to not only protect yourself but guard against flankers. So duck back and try to loop around on the Solider.
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Why would you run right at him? You should be hugging corners with McCree to not only protect yourself but guard against flankers. So duck back and try to loop around on the Solider.
HandsomeCharles
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I don't have a link, but I'm 95% certain that it was confirmed.
truestatic
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They'll be directed AT the target, but not seek them. They're still a dumb fire projectile. This can actually work against you because it means you won't lead a moving target and won't aim at their feet for the splash so if they're not a large target, moving, and not right in your face, you're pretty much guaranteed to miss, shooting at where they currently are. Save your helix rockets for the right moment.
Does it affect bastion in sentry mode? He and I were at opposite ends of the back of B in Hanamura, with the raised dais/shrine between us. Both in clear line of sight of eachother, but when I earthshattered, nothing happened.
packy34
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Again, these are all hypothetical situations. From a purely statistical standpoint, 76 wins against McCree anywhere except up close. McCree *can* situationally escape him, sure, but that's not the usual or expected outcome.
Bear Force One
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It upsets me that his frogs and his hockey outfits don't interest me at all. I'd love a legendary skin for him that was amazing.
I finally started playing Pharah because I got her amazing Raptorin skin.
truestatic
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The problem is a smart mccree will not be playing in the open where a 76 can make smart use of his range. A smart mccree will wait until you round the corner and then rock your world. If you're also trying to poke as s76 from midrange, you have to be careful, because it's easy to accidentally get close enough that a combat roll will get him in flash range.
packy34
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That would be fun exactly once.
truestatic
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Ifrit is probably the best skin in the game, and it's for the character I will least play.
If you have to pick one, pick Ifrit.
Because I'm bad at her but want to feel good playing her.
She can't main tank and is primarily a flanker/harass.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
People are going to hate pharah and junk rat.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
Why does D.VA need a buff?
Because of the way the game is played, burst damage is more important than raw DPS. It's true 76 outputs more damage at midrange, but he has to deal with individual bullets, and bullet spread. McCree's damage is limited solely by the players' aim, because it suffers from no recoil. McCree landing a lucky headshot is so much more important than 76 landing a few stray shots, a few of which hit the head. It's the difference between a kill and free charge for Mercy/Lucio. To compete, Soldier has Helix Rockets but the cooldown is very long, and it has travel time.
She's kind of a one-button hero right now. You pick her for two reasons, busting entrenched defenses with her ult or because you really like D.Va.
There's no situation I can think of where people would go "damn, I really need to pick D.Va here or we'll lose!", outside of the aforementioned bunker buster, and making a hero mostly about her ult instead of her entire kit is kind of dull, monotonous design.
She's kind of a one-button hero right now. You pick her for two reasons, busting entrenched defenses with her ult or because you really like D.Va.
There's no situation I can think of where people would go "damn, I really need to pick D.Va here or we'll lose!", outside of the aforementioned bunker buster, and making a hero mostly about her ult instead of her entire kit is kind of dull, monotonous design.
packy34
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Because her mech is weak to pretty much everything, her defense matrix doesn't last long and only protects 25% of her frame, and she does pretty shit damage unless she's standing literally on top of something.
I finally started playing Pharah because I got her amazing Raptorin skin.
This is the one I'm saving up for first, though it's called Mechaqueen I believe, the Raptorin is the green version.
truestatic
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Especially when no one's actually died to a d.va ult since beta. :\
Newtype-001
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Every character needs a Mecha skin varient tbh
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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EU GAF how can I play with you guys and girls?
Spread sheet link in the OP! feel free to add me
truestatic
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Nevermind, dumb reply.
D.va's Strengths:
She can tank Winston's lightning gun.
She has a lot of hp and armor.
She's great at running away.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Her mech eats Winston's lightning for breakfast. In general she can soak up a lot of damage, you just can't actually be facing forward or her stupidly big critical box is exposed. Works well when you're dashing away though.
Braag
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I agree that he shouldn't be able to take out tanks quote as easily as he does. But tweaking him too much might not be a good idea either cause McCrees role is to take out annoying characters like Tracers and Genjis which are fast and also Mei which is hard to fight at close range (though Reaper is good against Mei too)
Putting a CD of 3-4 sec to the FTH is fine and prevents him from spamming it with the roll and keeps him as he should be against squishy enemies who get too close to him.
It's kinda like roadhog, if you're a 200hp character and he gets you with the hook, you know you're dead. Running into McCree at close range means the same thing if his flashbang isn't at CD.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
Playing a PUG where 4 of us refuse to run anything other than Tracer.
We're on a dominate winning spree.
This is what Overwatch is all about. I've never loved this game more than I do now.
We're on a dominate winning spree.
This is what Overwatch is all about. I've never loved this game more than I do now.
That's an exaggeration.
I got a triple kill with it to get play of the game and seal a defense on payload tonight.Imagine that with nerfed flashbang!
Mobius and pet octopus
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IN CBT, ranked play did NOT have higher tick rate. Only custom games have the option to have higher tickrate so far.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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he's not wrong
That removes the Tracer/Genji hard counter effect then.
AND it has the effect of making me feel like I'm going to have a seizure from the sudden white pulse, like CSGO. I wish all-white flashbangs had a solid black option instead.
Lol giving McCree hook would be the peak of hilarity.
Hook and Fan!
Yes, this is why I don't like it much.
Feral Gingy
Banned
I actually suggested this yesterday. +1
truestatic
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This was discussed earlier in the conversation actually, but... dunno. It may not exactly be thematically totally in line with him, but he's not just a cowboy sheriff type. He's a cyborg cowboy sheriff type. And a lasso... a little too pastiche, and a little too mini-roadhog.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Because he's a dirty fighter.
Maybe they can make the stun something like throwing sand in the opponent's eyes.
Pocket sand!
truestatic
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McCree, graduating from the Reyes school of hard knocks, went on to take lessons from a true master of dirty fighting: Dale Gribble.
You play McCree, don't you.
Yeah, I see what you're saying. Lasso is a little on-the-nose maybe.. but it could just tie people to be within a certain distance from McCree for a while, not stop their movement entirely like a Hook.
EDIT: Yes, Haly! I like the idea of Bolas! Just make it slow 'em, no stun needed.
-MD-
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Now make him kick the sand instead, have a forward moving pocket knife move and a towel whip move and I might actually play mccree.
streamers and overwatch youtube channels arent helping with the whole loot box thing with all those unboxing videos are they? I mean, it gets views, so thats all they are about and thats fine, but for example that Overwatch Central channel you guys talked about has a unboxing video now, MFpallytime started to do some Overwatch coverage (which excited me because im a fan) but so far its been 1 match video (1 week ago almost) and then...2 loot box unboxing videos >_>
edit: I played a little tiny bit of mcree, but one of the first things I noticed was I walked behind a Reinhardt, did the combo and deleted him. Rein, with all his health and armor and shit. Im fine with Mcree one shotting most heroes but come on, deleting tanks like that seems silly
edit: I played a little tiny bit of mcree, but one of the first things I noticed was I walked behind a Reinhardt, did the combo and deleted him. Rein, with all his health and armor and shit. Im fine with Mcree one shotting most heroes but come on, deleting tanks like that seems silly
truestatic
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They've said they're experimenting with him in-house. That's hardly definitive.
truestatic
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It'd need to disable or steeply inhibit movement abilities like blink, recall, and swift strike too.
No it's fine McCree is supposed to be the duelist it's okay that he can have a free kill on literally anyone once every 8 seconds.
By the way, throw the flashbang over the shield against reinhardt to deal with that pesky shield wielder even easier!
Ideally he'd still be plenty good enough to remain appealing to all the McCree players who like McCree, just not the obvious right choice for every situation.
will you stop playing mcree if hes nerfed? Thats the question isnt it. Do you play him because hes so good, or because you like him?
I cant tell if thats sarcasm or not, but if its not you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I deleted that Rein like everyother character would need a ult to do. Can Widowmaker even headshot one-shot a Reinhardt? I know hanzo cant.
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