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bzzt

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I got disconnected in the middle of a match on PC and couldn't re-login. Had to close out and restart the game, is there no way to get back into the last game?
 

Grisby

Member
Also fun to throw a barrier on an idiot offense player who plunges head first into a group of 4 enemies. You're not going to save them but hey, 50 charge points into your cannon right there. At least they died for something
Oh yeah, I always go for the jackasses that are just throwing their lives away. Give me all that sweet, sweet love energy that might as well be your stupid soul feeding itself into my proton pack.



Anyone else playing in short bursts? I just gotta do something else after a certain point in OW.
I want to play longer, but Witcher Blood and Wine is really, really good. Trying to juggle both is tough, but I'll manage.
 
Played some Symmetra tonight, and I really like her, but she is pretty situational imho. Not sure how to play her once the Payload is moving, or even if I should.
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
So I figured out something interesting with reinhardt's melee swing.

If you hold down mouse 1 to keep swinging but you tap right click to pull out your shield at the end of a swing your recovery animation gets cancelled and you swing again right away.

It's a little bit faster than waiting for your double swing to go off again but since pulling out your shield slows you down it only really works for knocked down targets you need to kill asap.
 

RowdyReverb

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Why is it that every time that fucking tire comes out it always makes a beeline straight to me?
I learned today that you can usually kill it with one shot. Even did it with Lúcio once
Oh yeah, I always go for the jackasses that are just throwing their lives away. Give me all that sweet, sweet love energy that might as well be your stupid soul feeding itself into my proton pack.
It's funny how the short duration of the barrier makes you much more cynical with its use. You don't protect the most important person, you protect the most imminently fucked person
 
Good games with gaffers today.

Sorry if I tell people to switch characters all the time. I try to make it just a suggestion, but sometimes it's good to pick and sometimes people appreciate the guidance. Out of curiosity, for any of you, does it bug you if someone tells you the team comp doesn't need your character right now? I feel harsh doing it, but if you're running Widow on Ilios then I'm liable to make a better suggestion.
 
I wish I could do well with Genji. He looks so fun and always wrecks me when I'm against him but I'm probably the worst Genji of all time. I just don't understand it.
 

B-Genius

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Thanks to RexNovis for the group invite this morning. First time playing with GAF! :D

I think we only won 1/5 games or something, but it was all good. It feels way better than with randoms as at least you know what everyone's trying to do. You can encourage one another and offer advice when things need changing up, it's great.

Sorry if my D.Va obsession offended anyone ^^; Sometimes it felt like I was doing okay, hassling opposing flankers and snipers, but I might have a bad habit of going it alone too often. I'm trying to learn other characters for when everyone just needs to push.

Guess I should also learn Torb for those special occasions...hah.

Was everyone based in Japan (or near enough)? If it's okay, I'll add some more of you guys next time. Cheers!
 
What's D.Vas role in this game? She can't take damage and her guns are worthless.

I dunno, I seem to wipe D.Va's but my fiance managed to get 57 elims with her in a game. I've yet to get that many with any character. She seems pretty trash to me but there must be something to her...
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
What's D.Vas role in this game? She can't take damage and her guns are worthless.

She's best played as an intercept tank. Basically when everyone is under a lot of fire she can dash in defense matrix until everyone is safe and then hold the choke point with her constant fire until she can bail out.

But that's just wishful thinking, the only use for her is her ult because that + junk rat's tire is the only way to take B on anubis.
 

Grief.exe

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Good games with gaffers today.

Sorry if I tell people to switch characters all the time. I try to make it just a suggestion, but sometimes it's good to pick and sometimes people appreciate the guidance. Out of curiosity, for any of you, does it bug you if someone tells you the team comp doesn't need your character right now? I feel harsh doing it, but if you're running Widow on Ilios then I'm liable to make a better suggestion.

Do it.

If the suggestion helps win the game then I would appreciate it.
 

B-Genius

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Good games with gaffers today.

Sorry if I tell people to switch characters all the time. I try to make it just a suggestion, but sometimes it's good to pick and sometimes people appreciate the guidance. Out of curiosity, for any of you, does it bug you if someone tells you the team comp doesn't need your character right now? I feel harsh doing it, but if you're running Widow on Ilios then I'm liable to make a better suggestion.

Not sure if it was you I played with, but always open to suggestions!
I sometimes play Zen even when there's already a healer, and I love trying to be sneaky with D.Va on certain maps. But if it's considered dead weight, I'll happily switch it up. (Still gotta learn more heroes, though...)

I love putting my spray on the enemy payload so they have to escort my face around

Hah, good stuff.
 
If you're in a group of four to six good players, then losing one to support is not only a benefit, but the other members of the group can pick up the slack in terms of damage.

On the other hand, if you're only in a group of two with the rest being ransoms, it's a massive detriment to lose one of your best players as a support class.

I disagree with the latter statement, there's a definite skill to characters like Mercy and Lucio that come through with a skilled hand. With Mercy I use my pistol whenever I get even the briefest healling downtime to get ult up super fast (last match I managed 13 revives and 14 eliminations), and with Lucio (although map dependent) I think I'm pretty good at holding the objective and stalling, while healing and killing allies. I managed to net 12 environmental kills in a game earlier today. I think that's a lot.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
She's best played as an intercept tank. Basically when everyone is under a lot of fire she can dash in defense matrix until everyone is safe and then hold the choke point with her constant fire until she can bail out.

That's kinda how I play her?

Works fairly well too when your team actually tries to go for objectives. Steam rolled more than a few teams that just fights on the frontlines leaving the obj undefended with only a torb which isn't a problem for D.va
 

Dalek

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Stupid question, but Lucio just heals by being near other players right? It's a passive skill? Not like Mercy where you aim and fire.
 

Xevren

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Good games with gaffers today.

Sorry if I tell people to switch characters all the time. I try to make it just a suggestion, but sometimes it's good to pick and sometimes people appreciate the guidance. Out of curiosity, for any of you, does it bug you if someone tells you the team comp doesn't need your character right now? I feel harsh doing it, but if you're running Widow on Ilios then I'm liable to make a better suggestion.

Depends on the pick. Dps pick then yea go for it. I've been told before though "We don't need a healer" and yea...I was done.

I really need to suggest this guys stream, he's absolutely hilarious and it just kills me. Arcadum is just too hilarious.
 

IceIpor

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Stupid question, but Lucio just heals by being near other players right? It's a passive skill? Not like Mercy where you aim and fire.
Yeah. He switches between a movement speed buff or healing aura buff.

The number in the middle of the screen indicates how many allies are currently in range of his aura.
 
Played some Symmetra tonight, and I really like her, but she is pretty situational imho. Not sure how to play her once the Payload is moving, or even if I should.

I played her defending Route 66 for what I think is the first time, and it works surprisingly well. The main thing is to always be putting up turrets where you can (worry less about perfect placement if you have to, the useful life of a turret is shorter in payload defense), and getting your teleporter up ASAP. Symmetra might be less useful once the payload gets close to the end (though you could set up in that hallway just before the last defender spawn maybe), but in the first half that teleporter can really save your ass if the attackers wipe out half your team.

The downside of the payload moving is that static defenses can be harder to set up, but the flipside is the enemy never knows where your turrets are if you keep replacing them.
 
Well he also does more damage than most at mid range too, so it's not just up-close that McCree is dominant, and the issue isn't that he's good at doing what he does, he's better at it than anyone else in his tier of character. McCree is build like a solid all around mid-close kind of fighter, Reaper is the one that should be dominating up close, but Reaper is just a free kill to McCree. The guy that only has two shotguns to fight, can be instantly killed in close quarters with no opportunity to respond. That's a huge design oversight.

I think if he stays the way he is, even with fan the hammer given a small cooldown, it wont shift his presence as the best competitive attacker, which would cause people to continue to complain, and Blizzard will feel the need to address it quickly, otherwise the influence it has on variety in the competitive meta is going to be rather negative.

I think his stun needs addressing more than anything else. No character should offer an instant-kill if you get within 15 feet of them, regardless of the close range presence they are supposed to have. . The biggest problem with FtH is that you don't get to fight back. You can't outplay it, or mitigate its efficacy with your own skill, he stuns and that's it, your dead, and there aren't many ways to avoid the stun.

Take a look at Roadhog, he's a comparable character with a instant-kill up close, the difference is that there's a possibility you can miss his skill shot and he doesn't have an alternate power with similar functionality. Even if McCree misses stun, he can just FtH the can roll and FtH again.

As Genji I have been at the other end of this far too many times. I parry mcree and cause him to stun himself, logically I outplayed him here but it just doesn't matter, he can FtH anyway and even if that doesn't kill me, he can roll and do it again. The bigger issue is how easy the stun is to land though. Maybe it should need to be a direct hit to work, maybe it should work as a flash bang with a small aoe, rather than a stun?

With a cooldown he couldn't roll and do it again, that's the point. It'd be used as a defensive tool with the benefit of a reload to give you an offensive option (primary fire) so that you're still a threat. That completely flips the rolls role as a tactical option. Don't get close enough to McCree where his fan can kill you. Genji and Reaper have great movement, they shouldn't touch McCree in his range. Another thing to keep in mind is that if you were close enough to get flash + fanned you were probably close enough to get fanned since the stun doesn't avail you that much time to approach. He's an anti-roamer.
 
Depends on the pick. Dps pick then yea go for it. I've been told before though "We don't need a healer" and yea...I was done.

I really need to suggest this guys stream, he's absolutely hilarious and it just kills me. Arcadum is just too hilarious.

Well, earlier today I we 3 supports on our team for capture and I felt I had to say 'we don't need Zenyatta'. Is that wrong? :p

You switched out of support without telling our team though that one time right? So you're basically Satan anyway.
 

Xevren

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Well, earlier today I we 3 supports on our team for capture and I felt I had to say 'we don't need Zenyatta'. Is that wrong? :p

You switched out of support without telling our team though that one time right? So you're basically Satan anyway.

I did say it but no one listened to me! I really hate those games where people just roam around aimlessly like that. Though I know you're joking :p (at least hopefully)
 
With a cooldown he couldn't roll and do it again, that's the point. It'd be used as a defensive tool with the benefit of a reload to give you an offensive option (primary fire) so that you're still a threat. That completely flips the rolls role as a tactical option. Don't get close enough to McCree where his fan can kill you. Genji and Reaper have great movement, they shouldn't touch McCree in his range. Another thing to keep in mind is that if you were close enough to get flash + fanned you were probably close enough to get fanned since the stun doesn't avail you that much time to approach. He's an anti-roamer.

He can still stun, fail the stun, and then just hammer anyway and with a little luck, will probably still instantly kill you at close-mid range, even with a cooldown, it's the accessibiity of the stun combo that feels like crappy design. The cooldown would make failing it more punishing, but you have to be pretty bad to mess up the stun often to begin with.

Also, if you don't fight McCree in his range as reaper, how do you fight him? You can't. He just kills you. Genji has a chance at mid, but McCree's usually back up a solid team with one or two supports. Whittling away at them with shuriukens doesn't kill when they have supports.
 

Moonkeis

Member
I ended up grouped with a party that were most likely friends as they were just doing same hero combos on every map. Went with support and went through a 7 game winning streak, I love the randomness of this game. 5 reaper combo was not so effective though, but hilarious.
 

Rokam

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Just had a game where a Pharah launched up to do her and ult and I followed her with D.Va...

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Poor poor Pharah death by suicide.
 
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