MakeshiftChef
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I always appreciate it when people take the time to communicate. Unless I'm in a group I usually leave the mic off as I'd rather hear the game through my surround set rather than my headset since I don't have a desktop mic.
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I always appreciate it when people take the time to communicate. Unless I'm in a group I usually leave the mic off as I'd rather hear the game through my surround set rather than my headset since I don't have a desktop mic.
KiefbladeMaster
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Zarya looks so fun but I'm terribad so whenever I use her I do basically nothing lol. We played a really good one yesterday that was always fully charged and protecting teammates non-stop and she just destroyed us. Never seemed like we could kill her. It was really annoying.
Best thing to do to counter Zarya is to just not shoot her when her barrier is up. Her damage is actually pretty ridiculous at 70%+ charge. Enough for you to be able to wipe teams with her ult using the alt fire on her cannon.
Zarya is intimidating at first but a ton of fun to play. I had a few 30+ elimination rounds as her the other night and her ultimate can just win games.
PayOffWizard
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Zarya looks so fun but I'm terribad so whenever I use her I do basically nothing lol. We played a really good one yesterday that was always fully charged and protecting teammates non-stop and she just destroyed us. Never seemed like we could kill her. It was really annoying.
What type of match is she best used for?
TheLetdown
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I agree, but only if you include Reaper's wraith form in this, as well.
MakeshiftChef
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Lucio is my most played hero. I just wish I could get one of his hockey legendary skins.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
> Play as Soldier 76
> Offense on Numbani
> On fire for most of the game
> Had a Hanzo and Widowmaker not doing shit
> We lose
> I get a bunch of gold medals and MVP card
> "fucking noob team, useless soldier 76"
Solo queue is sometimes OK, but too often it's unbearable.
> Offense on Numbani
> On fire for most of the game
> Had a Hanzo and Widowmaker not doing shit
> We lose
> I get a bunch of gold medals and MVP card
> "fucking noob team, useless soldier 76"
Solo queue is sometimes OK, but too often it's unbearable.
TheCanisDirus
Member
Man loads of salt here for McCree. Though there are piles of it for everyone. Everybody always hates on who they get killed by and aren't playing.
Game is so well balanced as is... it's honestly pretty amazing for release. I'm sure things will get tweaked even further but it's a solid fucking start if you ask me! (the months of actual Beta has helped)
Game is so well balanced as is... it's honestly pretty amazing for release. I'm sure things will get tweaked even further but it's a solid fucking start if you ask me! (the months of actual Beta has helped)
KiefbladeMaster
Member
I use her to attack on payload and she's also really handy on control maps.
Felix Lighter
Member
Nice, ha.
Shake Appeal
Member
I play many heroes, but yes, I cross-map her and she goes into her ice and hides, robbing me of a kill because I end up having to go deal with somebody else. It's very annoying.
In fact, I play all of the heroes except Mei. It's the honorable thing to do.
Lucio is my favorite supporter, all around a great character, and the voice in the spanish vo is awesome...
Also for all you Mei haters, Zarya is also a good solution there. Her shields negate Mei's freezing ability both for you and teammates so long as you get the shields off before you're completely frozen. This makes Zarya one of the more difficult targets for Mei to deal with since she can just just barrier herself through the ice beam and Mei has to then iceblock or wall not to feel the Zarya wrath. And even if she does freeze you, she can't one-shot you.
It's also a great way to deal with Mei's ult. Very useful on the KotH maps where you often see Mei, and her ult in those small objective areas can be devastating.
Her shields negate Mei's freezing ability both for you and teammates so long as you get the shields off before you're completely frozen. This makes Zarya one of the more difficult targets for Mei to deal with since she can just just barrier herself through the ice beam and Mei has to then iceblock or wall not to feel the Zarya wrath. And even if she does freeze you, she can't one-shot you. It's also a great way to deal with Mei's ult. Very useful on the KotH maps where you often see Mei, and her ult in those small objective areas can be devastating.
I allllways see Lucios, but rarely Zarya unless I'm playing her. I think she is my favorite to play though. Grav well + 100% cannon is the best.
Also for all you Mei haters, Zarya is also a good solution there.
It's also a great way to deal with Mei's ult. Very useful on the KotH maps where you often see Mei, and her ult in those small objective areas can be devastating.
I always for get to try, but can you destroy the freeze bomb?
TheLetdown
Member
I wish I could get her down. I really do. I had one really good game with her and then just a grouping of head-scratchers. She's all about timing. Almost like a rhythm. Maybe I just need more time with her.
Regarding those shields, even if there's only 1 hp left on your barrier, it still prevents lethal damage like Junkrat's tire. There's no trample damage a la Magic the Gathering.
I played a round as Pharah the other day with a good Zarya in the group. She popped the ult, I shot a single rocket into the middle of it and got a triple kill. I don't even have to tell you what the POTG was!
Turret kills...
It's funny that she's my best and most played character, but my win rate on Zarya is nothing special. I pull her out to try and salvage a bad team but sometimes there's just no saving them.
Saving people from Roadhog post-hook is the best. So much energy and they walk off scot-free.
As an aside I definitely ran into a Zeliard while playing, didn't think to ask if it was you though.
I was playing with a friend of mine and we barely lost offense on King's Row. He was playing Zarya, landed several ults. The rest of the team was relatively quiet. After we lose two of them (assuming they were also grouped) instantly said "Zarya, you're fucking useless" "way to ult once zarya".
.....what? He even hits the ult charge hotkey to let people know. People just want to bitch.
KiefbladeMaster
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When Mei uses ice block and you and your team is waiting for her to thaw knowing she has cooldown on ice wall.
Lol, I like to stand point blank in front of her as Junkrat and spam 'Who's up for some barbecue?' until she's out of it.
PayOffWizard
Member
Cool I'll give her a try tonight. I bet she's pretty good at protecting reinhardts flank at close range as well
The Lamonster
Member
I am totally double-dipping on console as soon as it gets down to $40.
Someone give this man the Noble Peace Prize for this discovery
I usually play with a group, so we always have a healer which really helps her as she can be a bit squishy. Half her health is shields though, so make sure you back off. It'll recharge that 200 of shields after 3 secs of no dmg. Put pressure on choke / sniper points with your grenades as the enemy has no idea if you're charged or not. You can usually get people to scatter and then try to engage 1on1.
GwyndolinCinder
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Also for all you Mei haters, Zarya is also a good solution there.
It's also a great way to deal with Mei's ult. Very useful on the KotH maps where you often see Mei, and her ult in those small objective areas can be devastating.
Care using zarya ult near mei though, she can just pop up a wall and get her team out.
KiefbladeMaster
Member
She punishes flankers for sure. Good at insuring ults go through, too. Especially with say, Pharah. That two second shield should be plenty of time for her to destroy anyone clumped up with her barrage.
It's not one fan, it's two fans, since he gets a roll in between.
Newtype-001
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>When the enemy Mei saves me with her ice wall
Nice
Nice
If he continues to argue that you can't kill a tank in one Fan maybe he can prove that McCree is the paragon of balance.
You mean Snowball? I honestly never tried, as I thought the little guy was invincible.
And it's cool to see Lucio getting some love, as I remember people not liking him, due to being a stereotype Brazilian DJ. The guy oozes with cool & his beats are pretty tasty, if you ask me.
Bummer that people are afraid of trying Zarya, either due to her intimidating physical appearance, her hairstyle, or her tough learning curve. Zarya is a challenging Tank to play, though she's one of the most rewarding when played well. Yeah, she's the softest of the tanks & the shield only provides a short-duration, but this mountain of Russian muscle is able to cleave through teams.
Lol. I had a match in the beta where someone was attacking our Anubis B and she did ice shell. Threw down a mine and just waited for her to come out. She lost most of her HP and got send back so far. I love when a team is ready to take out a Mei when they are out of the ice
True.
Armor lock is exactly what I'm reminded of. But Overwatch thrives on fuckery and aimbots and traps and all kinds of low skill (in and of themselves), high impact shit. so it doesn't bother me here quite as much as it did in Halo.
When Mei uses ice block and you and your team is waiting for her to thaw knowing she has cooldown on ice wall.
I do this now.
It was a payload match and she'd come up with barrier and poke us then fall back and shield her teammates that would go up and poke. It was brutal. IDK how many kills she had but it felt like she was fully charged up and always had her alt. She was just destroying us non stop.
she combo'd her ult with another hero's alt a couple of times and more or less team wiped us.
KevMan1815
Member
I was playing Lucio and fighting a Reinhardt 1v1 and winning since he couldn't catch me. I get him very low health and he used his ult on me and immediately charges so I know I'm dead. Lucio even starts screaming. The McCree on our team fires one shot and finishes him before I hit the wall and I survive. It made PotG and everyone was confused. He and I knew what happened and that's all that matters.
PayOffWizard
Member
Anyone know which direction you come out of the teleporter? The number of time I've come out facing a wall is nuts
It's perfect. Matches last 5 minutes half the time. Missing a quarter of a match or something with such a small team basically fucks your side over entirely.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
No need for that, McCree is balanced because you can not out snipe a widowmaker.
Mei's ult? I don't think there's any way to actually destroy it but I believe you can deflect it with Genji if you get it in time, while it's still a projectile.
My in-game name is Zeliard so it may well have been me. You can add me if you ever want to play together: Zeliard#1251
Timing definitely plays heavily into it. The trickiest thing to Zarya in my opinion is not getting the shields off too early. That's what I did a lot of when first starting with her (though back in the day her shields on teammates lasted 4 secs) and it's what I tend to see other Zaryas doing. You feel compelled to put a shield on a teammate or yourself as a precautionary thing, but they last for so little time they may well be gone when you start getting hit by stuff. It's often a good idea to put a shield on a teammate who is actively being shot at, but being predictive is also good if you know they're about to take some damage.
You also don't want to shield stuff constantly because you don't want them to be on cooldown when a critical moment arrives; at the same time you don't want to use them too sparingly because you want to keep your energy up and, well, preventing damage is rarely bad (the only exception to this would be getting your healer's ult charge up, but that's highly situational and risky).
Boring to say but it's just practice and experience, really. Once you're more familiar with what other heroes can do, you can start to prioritize teammates to shield and do so in timely fashion.
Oh yeah and another thing that really should be the default option: turn on allied health bars for Zarya. Makes it possible to see which teammates are in immediate danger.
When Symmetra places the portal you come out in the side of the portal facing her. When you hit Q with her and it shows the silhouette of the teleporter there are some arrows showing which way people will come out.
Opposite direction that Symmetra is facing when it's placed.
Helps prevent people from trolling and teleporting teammates off of cliffs I assume.
I love him too sucks when I get the most eliminations so it proves my team fucking sucks.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
You come out opposite to the direction Symmetra was at the time of placement. So she has to face a wall to ensure that anyone exiting the teleporter doesn't exit into said wall.
Yeah mei is pretty annoying mostly because she is a pest that is hard to kill. It does make it pretty satisfying when you finally get her though. I like to toss a junkrat trap next to the ice block and hope she stumbles into it when she gets out. It's hilarious to see her stuck there while her get out jail free card is on cooldown.
If you are afk for more than a minute you deserve to be kicked. In fact I think it should be shorter. 20-30 seconds would be perfect.
Chronospherics
Member
The devs wanting it isn't exactly an argument against a change. The devs wanted McCree to exist as he is, originally, it means nothing and it the wants of the devs should change as the competitive meta unfolds. At the moment, he deals far too much damage both afar and up close, for someone with a high-utility stun.
There's just no reason not to play double McCree, and adding a cooldown (as previously suggested) to fan the hammer isn't going to change that. If they want they stun intact then he needs a significant reduction in damage.
Interfectum
Member
> Play as Soldier 76
> Offense on Numbani
> On fire for most of the game
> Had a Hanzo and Widowmaker not doing shit
> We lose
> I get a bunch of gold medals and MVP card
> "fucking noob team, useless soldier 76"
Solo queue is sometimes OK, but too often it's unbearable.
This game seems like Dota where certain heroes are more scrutinized than others. Doesn't matter if you did good or not. You probably didn't do something he thought you SHOULD do (or he's trolling you).
In Dota 2 I could play good or bad with Undying. No one gives a fuck either way. I'm left alone. If I miss one hook with Pudge I'm worthless, I need to uninstall and my family should be killed.
The Omega Man
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This is one the greatest mysteries of our time, sometimes, even when trying I fuck up and team mates come out the portals facing a wall, I mean I see the arrows, but sometimes I am in a rush so my teammates can come right back into the fray soon.
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