mikemandey
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Mercy's gun is a silent killer. There were many occasions where I was chased by an enemy, I decided to fight back and won.
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petethepanda
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Just had a loot crate with four duplicate items and I can feel the hurt deep in my soul
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
I'm not sure if it's the weekend crowd or if matchmaking is trying to level out my winrates but when I have to go pistoling on Mercy because my soldier and Mccree can't hit their targets something is terribly wrong.
I've heard this for awhile and yes there is some merit in being outclassed more so then being just bad, there are times when you know your team is just shit and aren't even trying. I do admit their are times I'm just straight up outplayed despite having a counter for a hero
but if the game purposely puts you with shit teammates because you were on like a 5 game win streak I'm not going to just wave that off. Your basically being punished for having a win streak.
toastyToast
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Weird. Last game I was shooting a non-moving target with Widow and no damage at all. It's like my bullets were disappearing.
Kayo Police
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Torbjorn never sees play in Pro tournaments, so what the hell was your point?
He was asking for a consensus on tiers and theres already more than enough data to show that. But then again ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE TRUMPS ALL, I never lose with *insert character here* my personal K/D with etc etc.
There's no point in discussing balance with casuals.
Shake Appeal
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I was joking. There's no point in joking with you, apparently.
robotzombie
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Why didn't anyone tell me this game was amazing
played for the first time yesterday, already got like 5 play of the games!
I loooooove Zenyatta fyi
played for the first time yesterday, already got like 5 play of the games!
I loooooove Zenyatta fyi
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
I mean, Zarya's got more health than most of the people you should be going after as D.Va. In that gif it looks like she lost most of her shields, about 150 HP. The fall off is aggressive, but when you ambush a squishy they'll be just about dead by the time they get out of your effective range. I'll go after a Roadhog or a Reinhardt if they're hurt a bit and I can get behind them. I run the fuck away from a fairly healthy Zarya because she can 1v1 a D.Va at any range.
Man I just had the worst team. Payload attack and we had Hanzo and Widow on the team. I actually go Mercy to somehow try and save this, but then I am the only one going for the Payload. Never had a game this bad before. At some point I just gave up and played Soldier so I could at least heal myself. Widow screaming for a healer could go fuck herself.
unknownhero
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was about to use my reaper's ultimate....got blocked by my team's mei with her wall......
she's helping alright :/
she's helping alright :/
People haven't stopped talking about it for a week
Kayo Police
Member
I apologize then. The mindset most players in here have, have been quite troublesome.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Part of the matchmaking problem seems like it comes with parties.
When I play with a group, we just get bodied by really good groups sometimes and it makes me wonder what the party matching algorithm is. Of course the algorithm can't take into account things like differences in communication and such as well.
robotzombie
Member
I'm kidding of course
She's mainly useless at higher skill levels on PC, she's just a non-factor.
Dead Prince
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here's my winston highlight killing pharah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_kTu63P1dU
idk why the UI comes back at the end of the video. had to clip it out didn't want to have text (from chat)
idk why the UI comes back at the end of the video. had to clip it out didn't want to have text (from chat)
if the game is putting you on a shitty team then most likely there's a person at your skill on the other side with shitty teammates too, that's how mmr matchmaking works. sometimes shitty teams come together and steamroll through hero matchups or momentum or pure chance.
Dead Prince
Banned
Ps4 was fine when i played for a good 2 or so hours last night with some friends. didn't have any issues (outside of getting used to controller) also can't compare to xb1 only pc.
Old Gimlet Eyes
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Every team should have Lucio and McCree, they are just too good not to.
TheAngryMonkey
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You're right. I'm going to give her some more time. The ability to block damage, fly and blow shit up are all great. And she can be a monster outside of the mech. Her blaster is similar to Mercy's but higher fire rate and faster projectiles.
People just don't expect it. I 100-0'd a Solider76 earlier, bet he would have been steaming.
Shake Appeal
Member
D.Va just gets trashed so quickly. And her ultimate is near-useless at this point, except to zone an area. She has some utility as a ganker, but other heroes do that better.
What? No screencaps?
OnionPowder
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I die a little inside when mei blocks a hook when I'm playing road hog
Rats Off To Ya
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I'm level 62 with a positive win ratio and I find D.Va incredibly useful in the right circumstances. She's one of the most situational heroes in the game, but also one of the most versatile (within those situations).
Just because there are bad D.Va players doesn't mean she's a bad hero. And just because she's low tier on a pro level doesn't mean she's useless in quick play, even among skilled teams.
TheAngryMonkey
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Coming from Destiny I find weapon handling to be awkward as hell most of the time but the game runs perfectly on Xbox. I'm only just starting to warm up to Widowmaker's scoped shots after an hour against AI. Hitting actual players is a whole new ballgame.
Honestly the bigger issue on consoles is you can't leave a game with the group, only as individuals which makes leaving and grouping up again a bit tedious.
Felix Lighter
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Good grief. Everyone is aware that at a very high level of play there is optimal compositions and certain characters are just not practical but for fuck sake virtually none of us are playing at that high a level and we are mostly playing with random players. What works well with not-so-well-coordinated teams is not going to exactly what works well when high level, well coordinated teams. People are going to talk about their success with characters that have not been deemed tier 1 for pro tournaments. You're really going to have to accept that.
Nah, she's just situational, unlike Mei and Torbjorn which are totally useless in high level play right now.
Shake Appeal
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That's bizarre. You can do it on PC as group leader.
Beautiful Ninja
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The main issue with D.Va is that she's tissue paper disguised as a tank as she's a gigantic walking critical hibox. Winston does what she wants to do, which is being an aggressive fight starting tank that ganks squishies, but generally better because he can actually live through stuff. D.Va's ult is also pretty weak now that people know you can LoS it behind practically anything, I prefer Winston's Ult as a point clearing move.
D.Va main strength over Winston is higher single target DPS, but Winston does better AoE DPS and is one of the only sources of real AoE DPS in the game. This pushes Winston over the top, especially on KOTH maps where full on team fights are commonplace. I've started to appreciate Winston more on other map types as well from defense as well, he can still wreck shit on the smaller team fights.
yeah winston is definitely the better flanking tank. jumping on the back lines out of nowhere while your team engages from the front is just beautiful chaos, especially if you have ult.
TheAngryMonkey
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There is no checkbox as group leader on console to leave as a group. It needs to get added, we're a capable bunch.
At least people get why she's a 3* hero.
Shake Appeal
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Twinston is the best, if you have two good Winston players who can coordinate their jumps. It's just a shame McCree is such a hard counter right now.
Yeah, that's what I'm starting to think. It's really tough to get kills with her ult now that everyone knows how to deal with it, so it just gets everyone away from the objective. But there are so many ults that do that and do it better, not to mention how many other ults charge up much faster than hers.
I get the impression that Blizzard is unsure as to what they want DVa to be. She's not durable enough to be a tank outside of her defense matrix which has a lengthy cooldown, and she's not as good of a flanker as someone like Reaper or Tracer thanks to her guns making her move at a crawl. She seems like a weird hybrid.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
I wouldn't say no to a decrease in D.Va's headshot size, but it's not like you actually kill D.Va when you destroy her mech. You just give her a temporary increase in ranged DPS and any competent player will have that mech back in tens of seconds. The mech is not D.Va. It's an expendable tool within her arsenal.
The Lamonster
Member
Is it possible to break Mei's cryo-freeze?
Her crippling movement speed when shooting is the worst offender to me.
Shake Appeal
Member
Nope. You just have to wait it out. Takes four seconds.
Also, because it's indestructible, it can be used as a shield for allies.
Chairmanchuck
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Anyone already found some secrets on the maps? I am quite sure that e.g. something would happen if you play a certain melody on that Mexican map in the right order. Blizzard games are usually full of such things.
No.Unless he/she decides to get out before cooldown. Junkrat is the solution for a free kill in iceblock form.
The Lamonster
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Thanks guys. I had been shooting it like an idiot, thinking it's like the ice wall or Rein shield.
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