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Overwatch |OT2| A New Low in Unlocking and Microtransaction Systems
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How many walls did you build between people and their fun
I still have maybe 7 champs unplayed at level 39. I started playing Mei recently and she's a ton of fun. Unique playstyle, cute voice, funny ice spikes.
I only -occasionally- put a wall in my face when I meant to put it somewhere else. And I'm awful at wallboosting myself.
Stone Ocean
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A half charged headshot will kill low health targets.
What platform are you on? Also, any charged attack near your head is death.
well if you're getting matched with low levels I'm willing to bet your mmr is likely very close to a new player. MMR normally starts out at a decent value so the game can decrement/increment from this baseline
SliceSabre
Banned
So I should never not be Torbjorn or Symmetra.
Lets just say I didn't notice you could remove the wall with E until after a couple of matches.
Interfectum
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DBreakfast
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So other than the McCree and D.Va changes, who else do people want to see nerfed/buffed?
Personally, I'm just hoping for a Widowmaker nerf and a Zenyatta buff. Widow is just blatantly overpowered (at least on PC, I hear she's perfectly fine on console) and often forces entire games to revolve around her. Zenyatta is just too squishy. I'm sure it was fine back when he could stick an orb then hide forever, but now that he needs LoS to be relevant, he desperately needs a significant improvement to his health, movement, or both. Honestly, I'd like to see him get 50 armor on top of his current set, though that may be a bit much. He's the only support I enjoy playing, I just wish he was worth the effort.
For the most part, the game feels really well balanced. I think Blizzard did a really impressive job, given how many heroes there are.
Personally, I'm just hoping for a Widowmaker nerf and a Zenyatta buff. Widow is just blatantly overpowered (at least on PC, I hear she's perfectly fine on console) and often forces entire games to revolve around her. Zenyatta is just too squishy. I'm sure it was fine back when he could stick an orb then hide forever, but now that he needs LoS to be relevant, he desperately needs a significant improvement to his health, movement, or both. Honestly, I'd like to see him get 50 armor on top of his current set, though that may be a bit much. He's the only support I enjoy playing, I just wish he was worth the effort.
For the most part, the game feels really well balanced. I think Blizzard did a really impressive job, given how many heroes there are.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Then if it's rare, they can deal with a 5-10 minute timeout penalty.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
I'm honestly okay with Zenyatta as-is. His DPS and range are insane. His buffs are good. His ult is amazing for a final push. He just requires being a more cognizant player than most other heroes.
ThankeeSai
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Level 30, 52% win rate, all games played with randoms.
So I should never not be Torbjorn or Symmetra.
he's just really good for pub games where people can't coordinate. I'm willing to bet i've won more defense games that attack games.
smart thinking from that other guy haha
TheLetdown
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That's awesome! Haha.
My favorite thing while playing D.Va is to come up behind Pudge --- I mean, Roadhog, when they're doing this and bump them off.
He's awesome, but I'd like to see a bump in health to 200 so he isn't one-shotted by a Widowmaker no matter where she hits him.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Oh, then we're in agreement.
Yeah, getting disconnected sucks - but it can happen to anyone.
I'm for timeout penalties for intentional quitters.
I feel like they should look at Torb's turret in some way.
I'm on PS4 if that makes a difference, but that thing seems to have no target range drop-off, no damage drop-off, no firing rate cooldown, and instant targeting no matter if you manage to flank it.
It's likely not as much of an issue on PC with so many Widow's but on PS4 it seems to be more effective. Plus, I'm sick of all the Torb turret POTG's.
A Widow crit would be 300 iirc.
Woo-Fu
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No way Zenyatta gets any sort of buff without Discord Orb getting a nerf at the same time. You might as well not even play Roadhawg/Winston if the other team has Zenyatta. Discord Orb turns either of them into an obese Tracer without blink/rewind. Roadhawg in particular is hard-countered since he has no shield/escape mechanics.
Antiwhippy
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SlickShoes
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I am 33 and 55% win rate, also with all randoms.
I don't find much issue with the matchmaking like some people have, sometimes it goes a bit haywire and one side gets steamrollered but generally it's been a great experience.
AnotherNils
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Anybody else finding their in game stats don't match the playoverwatch site? Specifically time played on characters.
Stone Ocean
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The system doesn't punish occasional leaves. If you DC or something comes up you aren't gonna be punished for it. But if you keep trying to play when you're about to leave or your connection is poor then that's your problem.
I suppose it's possible that on the replay I was being shot by someone else at the exact same moment, but it happened twice in the same match. I'm just not sure why someone would be going for a totally uncharged shot to begin with. I'm perfectly aware of how good some people are but there's 'landing every headshot' and there's 'playing unnaturally'. As far as I know there's no tricky way to maintain a charge without the scope.
PC and to be clear I'm specifically referring to a shot that was not charged at all. Like the scope was barely even on the screen before the shot was fired. I use Widowmaker myself often enough and I have a lot of time on the TF2 sniper.
Interfectum
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Same.
Also the times you get dumped into a bad team you have a few options. Fuck around and just have fun, try different heroes or attempt to pull team together (voice chat + tank/support role). Most of the time I get put on a fairly competent team. It's just best to not give up early if the initial choices seem worrying. Just pick a good hero, play it well and see if others adjust.
Yeah, I love when my team does the Tracer/Zen combo. My friend calls out Discord orbs and I take em down as Tracer. 3 secs is enough to melt *most* characters with an orb before it gets returned. Zen doesn't even need to be out in the open too long with auto-target.
yeah he's much less of an issue on PC due to the popularity of snipers. I play both PS4/PC although been mainly on PC. So I'm not quite an expert on this.
But yeah but as we discussed earlier in the thread- Widowmaker much less popular on consoles. But then again I 'think' Hanzo still sees play on Console? The turret should be easy to shopot on console still due to them being stationary
Anyway pretty much all conjecture on my point
Do Discord Orbs always return to Zen after 3 seconds or only after 3 seconds once breaking LoS?
I need to play him more it seems.
If "life happens" then it'll probably take more than two minutes to take care off and the game can tell the difference between a disconnect and exiting.
Interfectum
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I play on PS4 around level 30 and I don't see trob being that much of a problem anymore. His turrets are fairly easy to take out unless the team rallies around it (rein protection, etc). I think the only hero that really needs adjusting right now is mccree. He's a bit ridiculous at the moment.
After breaking LOS. But I mean that Zen doesn't really need to be exposed for that long because if the orb is coordinated, the target can be dead before that even happens. Basically, pop out, call target, I blink in, kill.
edit: assuming no headshots/armor, Tracers pistols empty in 1sec and reload in 1sec, so you can get 2 full magazines (empty/reload/empty) before the orb is returned. Base damage is 6, so 6*40*1.5 = 360 damage per mag, or 720 damage per orb combo.
Kayo Police
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Something I never understood while watching Competitive Pro Matches is why they feel the need to constantly jump. Doesn't seem to matter what they're doing: Engage in a firefight, Running back to regroup, preparing defensive measures, they're constantly jumping.
I can't imagine they will implement penalties for quitting for unranked but you can bet your Roadhog they will for ranked.
I'm quite a fan of the timeout system. Delayed for queuing for 4 mins for quitting a game then this doubles as they quit games within a certain period of time (24 hours for example).
They could easily implement this for both ranked and unranked. Obviously for ranked quitting you would lose ranking points.
I'm quite a fan of the timeout system. Delayed for queuing for 4 mins for quitting a game then this doubles as they quit games within a certain period of time (24 hours for example).
They could easily implement this for both ranked and unranked. Obviously for ranked quitting you would lose ranking points.
Because it makes them harder to target. Especially when they have a sniper.
Stone Ocean
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Harder to aim. Ever seen a Wiston glue on you and monkey around while holdong LMB? That's why
CadetMahoney
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Back in the day on Tema Fortress Classic, when on a shit team I would just pick sniper or spy and fuck around.
Just going for headshots, doing my own thing with spy for the lolz. Certain maps are better suited for "having fun" when on a shit/losing side though.
Shake Appeal
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They crush in pub games. My E/D with Torbjorn is 5.08 just from griefing KotH games.So I should never not be Torbjorn or Symmetra.
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yeah like the other reply said, makes you a bit harder to target. especially when you can be one shot by so many things if you're Mercy like me majority of the time
Dead Prince
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So I should never not be Torbjorn or Symmetra.
i should also stop subbing in people on a losing battle. that doesn't get added to my losses right? lol
also masteroverwatch has better aggregation than watcher.gg. saw that watcher.gg lagged behind a few games. so i'm sure other datas will be off.
SlickShoes
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Aye, I have played a few games that start so horribly they seem like a lost cause, then the other team gets overly confident people realise their mistakes and change heroes and we end up winning. The games are that short there is no real need to give up at any point.
It takes a few seconds to recharge after breaking. If the shield is protecting anything, those things will either be dead or the formation will have to scatter. Either result is a good thing.
Shake Appeal
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I think the actual fix is to pull down Widow's charged damage to about 125. She'll still kill squishies with two charged body shots or one headshot, but she won't demolish tanks as fast, she won't kill Zenyatta in one hit, and people will actually have to pick their shots a little better instead of spamming.
And I say that as a 3.3 E/D, 60.1% winning Widowmaker.
Stone Ocean
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Kor of Memory
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So this wasn't the play of the game, but I felt like it should have been.
I hit an airborne Mercy with two direct Pharah rockets. I was pretty excited about it.
https://gfycat.com/AnnualScaredIcefish
I hit an airborne Mercy with two direct Pharah rockets. I was pretty excited about it.
https://gfycat.com/AnnualScaredIcefish
Woo-Fu
Banned
Why are you trying to imagine something that already exists? Finish less than 70% of your last 20 games, you'll get a leaver penalty which is -75% exp until you raise your completion percentage significantly.
That said the penalty is kind of stupid because the people who quit games don't do so because they're worried about experience points.
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