-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Overwatch |OT2| A New Low in Unlocking and Microtransaction Systems
- Thread starter Dance Inferno
- Start date
- Status
RowdyReverb
Member
Dammit, if you're the only person playing support, don't switch classes without saying something
Man I love Mercy so much. But alas, I must head off to work. only got in 2 games
Yes!! Hopefully thats how it works need to verify
Yes!! Hopefully thats how it works need to verify
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
Well, it shows up on the left side of the screen whenever someone in your team switches.
Kor of Memory
Member
But, anytime anyone switches classes the game itself says something. Both audio cues and a text message at the bottom.
There's something happening in the background. Either %match played as character or something. I have 2 wins in 2 plays as Genji, but my win % was only 89%.
TheAngryMonkey
Member
Looking at these stats it's apparent I play Mercy pretty differently than a lot of you
That 0.91 K/D
Avg heals per game is sitting around 4k
That 0.91 K/D
Avg heals per game is sitting around 4k
Angelus Errare
Banned
That's par for the course for healers in pretty much all games. Everyone else really doesn't care about you, but you better damn well heal them or the loss is your fault.
RowdyReverb
Member
There is text, but it's often hard to pay attention to if you're busy with combat. And the audio cue lets you know somebody switched, but doesn't say from whom. I just wish more people would communicate in general
the problem with mercy (reinhardt just BARELY edged her out for playtime yesterday) is the MMORPG healer conundrum. Just like an MMORPG the players want to say "do your fucking job healer". And then just like an MMORPG they effectively stand in the fire.
I am not going to be able to keep you up solo charging the point.
I am likely not going to be able to keep you up charging the turret.
I am not going to be able to keep you up because you don't feel like avoiding an opposing ult.
I am not going to keep you up when you run off and do your own thing unrelated to the objective.
tl;dr a healer isn't a safety net for playing like an idiot.
TheLetdown
Member
Man the range on Torbjorn's turrents are ridiculous. You can't out flank them, as soon as they see you even if it's just your foot you dead. Am I the only one with a problem with them or anyone have advice on dealing with these things they so annoying.
I mean I flanked a team, everyone backs towards me, I am a distance from them? High noon is ready, could get five players in high noon, the turrent from a huge building away instantly turns around and kills me. I mean even with Pharah they give me a problem, completely nullifies her air advantage. I think Torbjorn is the easiest character for beginners people get play of the game and they not even doing the killing.
The range on the turrents is my mine issue. The maps are too small so it means you can set them up poorly and get kills.
I mean I flanked a team, everyone backs towards me, I am a distance from them? High noon is ready, could get five players in high noon, the turrent from a huge building away instantly turns around and kills me. I mean even with Pharah they give me a problem, completely nullifies her air advantage. I think Torbjorn is the easiest character for beginners people get play of the game and they not even doing the killing.
The range on the turrents is my mine issue. The maps are too small so it means you can set them up poorly and get kills.
Kor of Memory
Member
I guess I make a mental note to check the team lay out every time I die. Especially after I hear a player changed classes.
Last night was the 1st time I tried playing Lucio. He's like playing a mmorpg bard/minstrel twisting songs, but he's actually fun. I was inspired to try him out after seeing someone playing Lucio really well for an opposing team. He was constantly zipping all over the pace, switching songs, and wall running. If there are 2+ Lucios in a group do their songs stack?
I'm terrible at playing Honzo. He's probably easier to use on PC with M/KB. Still, there are some very good Honzo players on PS4. I don't know how they do it.
I'm terrible at playing Honzo. He's probably easier to use on PC with M/KB. Still, there are some very good Honzo players on PS4. I don't know how they do it.
Pretty much, now imagine why this issue will be extended even further due to the 20 tick rate server not updating your position as fast as it should. According to the game's server you are basically in an area that's behind the cover but can still be hit for atleast 3-4 times longer than you should be !!
But ofcourse someone will quote me and tell me how tickrate issue is trivial and it's all due to player's own connection (which can cause this issue too but not as serious if your ping is below 50).
Who are you? I don't believe I have you in my list.Yep.
And I think I've even sent you a friend request on PS4 that was also completely ignored.
I suck with healers but you know how it is, someones gotta do it when everyone else insta picks a damage dealer.
I also have >3 K/D with Soldier, Reaper and Roadhoag but I don't play them too often.
Raven117
Member
Ha, I was dropped into a game where the other team was 99% on the capture point, first round.
The team didn't have a healer so I picked Lucio....We fought back and won Round 1 and Round 2!
I will contribute this to my healing skills.
(But jokes aside, the games can swing big time on group composition...and of course the players piloting the characters...if you play it like Deathmatch...you are in for a bad time).
I do think they need to nerf the range on Toub....(whatever) turrets....Across the map is a little too intense. They also need to nerf the time of Junkrats ult. At 10 seconds, a player has too much time to pilot that thing.
PushingButtons
Member
Is there a way to type anything during the game? Or is the only non-verbal way to communicate via the small dialog wheel?
Dead Prince
Banned
lucio buffs doesn't stack.
Interfectum
Member
Not sure where they should be Symmetra but I'm not sure if she should be in support. I think people get confused with her. I've seen healers switch out of support when they see her picked. Also I had a sym running behind me spamming her gun... i think she thought she was healing me. lol
Maybe keep Symmetra on support and move the healers to their own "healer" category.
Maybe keep Symmetra on support and move the healers to their own "healer" category.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Ripe tire has 100hp. You basically shoot it once and it's dead. It's not even close to needing a nerf.
People switching off tank or support are just being selfish with their pick. When I am going to run a second tank, I tend to wait til after hero selection is done. I don't like to solo tank as roadhog or zarya.
Kor of Memory
Member
I'm sorry. I've done this to you twice now, and I don't mean to.
It doesn't help the social interface with this game is broken.
When you request to join I get a box that pops up on the side of my screen that says, "Lik has requested to join you."
"Press Y or N"
Except we're on PS4, and there is no way to actually press Y or N. And of course all this is going on while the game is still happening, so both things are competing for my primary attention.
For future reference, if anyone ever wants to play with me you can join my PSN chat party (you don't need to talk, I'll know why you are there).
100? I thought it was 200.
I'm pretty sure I've hit it dead on with a Rocket from Pharah and it's lived with like 40% of it's health still.
TheLetdown
Member
The_Letdown on PSN. I noticed it the other day in my pending friend request list. I think I sent it back when I was playing Division still?
Lucio's utility is insane. I love bumping people off capture points, into corners, down wells.
I'm only OK with his wall rides. It's something I'd like to get better at for mid-fight scrambling.
RowdyReverb
Member
Give her a movement speed bump and move her to Defense. She's closer to Torbjorn than she is to the other Supports
Will do. I know, the interface was not made for consoles. They need to fix that with a patch. I'll jump into your party next time.
Also, I think the invite thing uses the touchpad which the game never tells anyone.
whats the range on lucio's alt fire? i swear sometimes ive been closer than that without it registering.
I agree about Widow, her charge up time should be increased slightly
And as I said yesterday, Ultimate charge up times need to be nerfed in general. It just can't be that the ult charger of Mercy for example is increasing at a rate of 3% per second or something like that just because she's holding down left click. It's fucking annoying how often she has her res up and how often other heroes have their game changing ultimates ready.
Ultimates should be something special, not something that happens every few seconds.
buy teh haloz
Banned
People are much better at avoiding them now.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
That's par for the course for healers in pretty much all games. Everyone else really doesn't care about you, but you better damn well heal them or the loss is your fault.
It's always my fault.
Kor of Memory
Member
Nah, it's that ult that does it.
Her ult basically acts the same as Mercy but in a different way.
Also, a good Symmetra uses her turrets to claim in-map health packs. Meaning the enemy team can't have them, and only your team can use them.
I love getting random kills from turrets because a Tracer or a Genji only had like 20hp left, and thought 'I'll just grab this health pack on this ledge over here.'
Nope, I tried that too. The very first day 6 of us were constantly inviting each other, trying everything we could think of to actually make a group. Since everyone wasn't on everyone elses friends list, it was a lot harder than you would think.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
100 hp. If it survived a rocket hit, it's because it wasn't direct. A non direct hit does 80 tops.
Dead Prince
Banned
i switched from winston to lucio because the rest of the team wasn't helping anything. then they get mad i switched lol.
one of the maps no one even tried to stop the payload. i'm like. is this a 6vs1. i barely even saw them through the game wtf is that shit.
widow is ridiculous, even besides the charge time she can just plink away rapid fire and do decent damage.
her base rate of fire should be way lower and charge time should be nerfed too. her gun's SMG mode does too much damage as well, she should be almost helpless close-range but she's definitely not.
and even if they hit her that hard with nerfs she'll still be completely viable, that's how stupidly good she is right now.
Kor of Memory
Member
You should hear the shit my wife says about our random Reinharts we play with when she is Mercy.
"Where the fuck are you going...? You realize, I'm not going to follow your, right?"
"I guess we're just going to observe the objective from this safe distance over here."
"That's right, drop your shield... it's not like you have 3 teammates shooting from behind you from safety. But you really wanted that flame strike to whiff, huh?"
"Turn the fuck around!"
"Fuck this guy, I'm switching to Lucio..."
I wont play Reinhart because I get it even worse. D:
Interfectum
Member
It's a pretty relaxed game if you don't take it too seriously.
PC or PS4 = kb/m or controller... which is your preference? Game virtually the same otherwise.
UltimaPooh
Member
Since we have a ton of PS4 players... we need to setup a customs night.
this is great
I should probably play healers more. :/
Without being rude, you should probably just try to die less as Genji and Soldier 76. You can benefit your team as assault a lot by just not dying and providing as much consistent DPS as you can.
It's also 20 USD cheaper on PC (for the standard edition), although you're missing out on a few character skins and other goodies, they don't really matter
Controller, definitely. But I dont want to get a bad port or anything similar... Good on console?
yeehamuffins
Member
My Symmetra instincts are sound, it seems. Funny that Widowmaker is still so high up on my list considering I barely play her anymore. I guess it's because my instinct is usually "Pharah for offense, Symmetra for defense, and if that doesn't work... I dunno, try something else."
- Status