Berserking Guts
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That's why I save mine for when I'm behind enemy lines while my team is keeping everyone busy. Reinhardts shield never sees me coming.
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That's why I save mine for when I'm behind enemy lines while my team is keeping everyone busy. Reinhardts shield never sees me coming.
How many are down? She build up res super quick, i always hold 1 for the final push.
I'd say burn it, unless there's like only time for one more push after you die. She charges it so fast, and 2 people res is good.
ElephantShell
Banned
I find Mercy's ult charges pretty fast if you're healing a lot so I'll use it for 2 teammates near the objective every time, unless I'm resing them right into a certain death situation.
It starts to move back after 10 seconds of no attackers apparently. Not sure what the contest mechanics are after it starts moving backwards though.
therealminime
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Goddamn. Just played attack on Hanamura and I went Genji and just ran right to the objective, killed two players, rest of my team pushed in and got rid of everyone else, captured A then went right to B through the left side by jumping over with Winston and Mercy following, caught them at spawn and won the game. 1 minute, 19 seconds. Fastest game I've played so far. The whole other team left. Glorious.
TheAngryMonkey
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Lets say you have enough time to get back without a teleporter. But even as a general rule I'm trying to decide if it is better to hold the ult and regroup...or to pop the ult before death and hope they can survive without you while you're gone. Will the remaining players die because they lacked support of those downed players or are they all doomed either way?
Saucycarpdog
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It's a lot easier to do if your healing a aggressive D.VA for most of the match.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
True. But with the turret-Rein combo, there's actually three bodies (Torb, Rein, turret) vs two. Makes for some interesting pincer movements.
I use it and hope that the res might save me from dying or might bring back someone who can heal me somehow
TheAngryMonkey
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I usually pop it if there is anyone I can res if I know I'm about to die, in almost all cases if I also know I can get back to the objective in time. But lately I've been thinking I should stop doing that. I find that if there are 1-2 players dead and then I'm killed, someone has an ult they're about to use it so res'ing. Either way, I usually spawn only to see a very weak team that is usually dead by the time I'm back.
At this point I think it's almost always better to hold it and use it in a controlled manner rather than panic res people that have a higher chance of dying anyway.
The difference in my opinion is that Lucio can actually do damage himself unlike Mercy who needs another person to be effective.
Lucio seems like an easier character to be competent with, than Mercy (since the aura is always on you can't NOT use it). Both are probably really tough to be very good with, but the bar for playing Lucio in something like a pick up game, is lower IMO. Doesn't mean the character is bad, just a bit easier to get into.
Environmental kills are weighted pretty heavily in POTG. That map was crazy short (defended on the first point) so it's likely nothing major happened at all so the env kill won. You almost never get good POTG on first-point defends or steamroll games. Just not enough time for anything good to develop
Aris Shadows
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I always feel bad see a dead player's yellow orb and not rezzing them, thinking to myself, "there is better time using this, there is.."
You just gotta run away. I probably have a 60-70% survival rate by just hauling ass to cover. If I'm playing Lucio I'll also pop my ult and amp up my healing boost, which usually saves some if not all of my team.
orthodoxy1095
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He did get a map pushoff...but man that's a shit POTG lol.
robertlebrone
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Same here. I don't even bother selecting any of the offensive heroes anymore. If I want to do damage I choose Bastion. As far as I'm concerned he's a better S76.
TheAngryMonkey
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Mercy is underrated as a killer quite honestly. I think a good Mercy player knows when to get the blaster out and teamshoot or take down turrets/Widowmakers.
For 2 or more I would probably pop it.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Not really. McCree's loud audio cue makes it easy to run indoors. Pharah's is incredibly weak and easy to cancel. Soldier 76's is probably the best of those three, but even then, it's pretty easily avoided.
Interfectum
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Dat tumbleweed.
duck and cover? Pharah is the worst of those (lowest activation latency) but even that can be survived (without an obvious shield) as long as you are out by 1-2 seconds.
But I mean.... this game is meant to be punishing if you are standing wide out in the open.
Not for me! Also Reinhardt and Zarya were already dead.Big waste of ults
This is not even remotely accurate. Pharah damage output isn't great and she is super easily put out of her misery due to how open she is while doing it. Can only be really effective with good positioning and catching people offguard.
McCree also has to take good positioning, since it takes a while to guarantee actual deaths, meanwhile you already alerted every single person on the map you're about to do it, and you also glow.
Doctor Ironic
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Soldier I'll give you but McCree's has a massive warning sound attached to it and Pharah's is easy to take cover from/just shoot the person doing it
c'mon, son
Does the tumbleweed always appear when he uses Deadeye?
Pharah's super does a lot of dmg but isn't an insta-kill and requires you to aim at a target continually to do dmg. It can easily miss if people run outta the way and you're stuck firing it so you get shot down quick if an enemy player is away from the blast. I got shot down once with an enemy ditrectly in front of me many times before they died. McCree is instant as soon as it locks on.
Ardenyal
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Reaper ult is the most bullshit ult in the game. Every other ultimate can be countered on reaction.
*brofist*
*brofist*
If you don't have a skull over the enemy as McCree his super will just do damage, not auto-kill. Pharah's is super high damage output but if they enemy isn't altogether you can flub it and sometimes fly away with zero or no kills. Both also take time and can be interrupted before you kill anything.
TheCanisDirus
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Exactly. If anything McCree isn't OP because his Ult is so avoidable most of the time.
Pharah's really isn't that strong unless the enemies are already damaged... and yup, you're a sitting duck in mid air waiting for anyone to take you out with a quick shot.
Soldiers though... piece of shit, skill-less ult. lol
Wyndstryker
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Speaking of PotG (and I wanna brag) god I just had the best McCree PotG. It was the perfect combo of teamwork and ults that resulted in a teamkill.
"Like sittin' ducks"
We still lost
That's a mass execution.
The ult takes forever, it's rare I ever see one where she doesn't get shot outta the air. Also all it takes is the team scattering and she doesn't get much. I think it needs to be buffed honestly.
yes. And it persists as an object in the game world for all players. As far as stupid little touches go it's pretty awesome.
th4tguy
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Was watching an overwatch video on youtube and noticed the cherry blossom trees drop petals but I've never noticed this in the PS4 version. Is this a difference between the two versions or does a condition have to be met for the petals to start dropping? Are there other environment effects that are missing from the console versions?
McCree's hat also drops down on the top of the screen
Felix Lighter
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McCree's is probably one of the hardest to set up and Pharah's requires planning or you are going to get plucked out of the sky in about a second. Only Soldier is kind of brainless with those examples.
TheCanisDirus
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Eh, it's just sneaky... i've pushed a ulting reaper off the map numerous times as lucio... blocked it with D.Va's barrier and killed him at range with a number of characters. It is a super quick multi kill so not being ready for it can be dangerous.
Speaking of Reaper... i need to start playing and learning his combos better.
I see. I didn't realize that McCree still did damage even without the skulls. Thought those would just be a miss. And I have seen quite a few Pharahs picked off while trying their ultimate.
You are doing something wrong.
Pharah's and McCrees are so easy to avoid or just straight kill them while they are setting up standing completely still that it is shameful when you get hit with it especially more than one of you.
spindashing
Banned
For real. Wallriding with Lucio is so FUN now.
Sleeping Lesson
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Well shit, I'll definitely change my play up.
That's great! I'll try it out.
It seems like my teammates have been pretty happy with my Mercy already, but this will hopefully really step up my usefulness a lot.
Yep. it would not be so bad but Pharah's missiles have hella travel time during the ultimate.
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