Strong disagree, I love seeing things like how McCree broke past the line and destroyed us all from behind with an ult because we weren't paying attention to one hallway. Reminds me of what to watch for later.
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Strong disagree, I love seeing things like how McCree broke past the line and destroyed us all from behind with an ult because we weren't paying attention to one hallway. Reminds me of what to watch for later.
GwyndolinCinder
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Please argue mcree's weakness, (spoiler alert doesn't exist)
Are you a wizard? I've saved my whole damn team from riptires and never got one. Usually shows up in my highlights though, same with Zenyatta denying ults. I'm surprised I didn't get a POTG for outhealing a simultaneous S76 and Genji ult.
The flame-bar is a basic metric for how well you're doing and how much you're helping your team.
I think he could be buffed. Why is the Soldier the one with the sprint button? Do Cowboys not sprint?
Finaika
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He's slow.
backflip10019
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The number of people who play as Hanzo who are terrible at playing Hanzo. Drives me right up the wall!
Oh, thanks... That's why my bar is always empty u_u
And why it has a "limiter" or mark near to he end. You gain something if you pass that mark?
Pilgrimzero
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Love this game but trying to play Widow reminds me that I have the dexterity of a slug and can't snipe worth a darn.
Finally had my best game with 10 kills and 1 death on a defend map as D.Va.
Finally had my best game with 10 kills and 1 death on a defend map as D.Va.
Mike_Hawk689
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You become on fire after you've passed that mark
Only thing I can think of is that McCree lacks any kind of map mobility so it's harder for him to properly flank. That's why people call him an "anti" flanker. He can still do it, but it's hard without the ability to blink or climb.
That doesn't really help you when you're in a fight with him but it limits where he can go I guess.
That doesn't really help you when you're in a fight with him but it limits where he can go I guess.
maybe they're trying him out? I'm sure I look terrible with a few characters in these pub games but I'm trying them out.
I was in a team with 5 Soldiers last night and we owned for a while.
I have more fun with Winston than any other character. Jumping over buildings and landing behind the enemy team, zapping, then jumping back is fun harassment. Also, popping his ult on control points and knocking everyone out makes you feel like a beast lol.
I find myself avoiding too many heroes as D.Va. I stay the fuck away from Tracers because she's way too fast and always ends up killing me, I stay away from McCree because he almost always blows up my mech, and I try to stay away from other characters unless I absolutely get the jump on them like Reaper because we trade too many hits even if I win. Basically, almost every time I 1v1 someone, I at least get my mech destroyed. Am I playing her wrong? Maybe my aim sucks. I know you're supposed to bully people and chase them around which are the times I do well with her but if it's face to face with most characters I feel like I blow up way too often or retreat too often.
BrassDragon
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I also love his voice lines when he lands from a great height. *BOOM* "...hello."
I'm sad you can't climb Mei's wall with Junkrat's ult
I had a Junkrat's tire climb my wall before.
He can't outsnipe a sniper and he's slow.
Lavalamp1138
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Been trying to improve my Genji by practicing his combos in the shooting range. I feel pretty comfortable with the close range combo but the long range combo is still pretty tough for me. Like, initiating with Swift Strike is difficult to judge where I'll land next to my target when the goal is to try to strike through them and land as close as I can for the rest of the combo. This is compounded by the difficulty of turning around slowly on consoles because that split second is imperative in getting off the shurikens while remaining in melee range to do the required damage. I've been slowly trying to increase my sensitivity to help with turn speed but it'd be so helpful if I could map to my controller the ability to do a 180 degree turn at the press of a button.
GwyndolinCinder
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Thats not a weakness, well its a weakness in the same sense as " he cant build an ice wall" is a weakness.
How is it idiotic?
And you get something for being on fire?
Got a couple of eliminations at the same time as well as stuffing someones ultimate. Still salty that Lucios ultimate isn't eligible for play of the game since it stops rip tyres and D.Va destructions in thier tracks.
His cooldowns are long and without them he's much weaker, and he loses to many characters at mid-long range. Sure his left click is pretty decent but if he's fighting, say, soldier in an open area theirs no way he should win. He preys on close quarters, so don't play his game.
Also in 2v1s he's fucking dead. Use the buddy system.
I won't say it's idiotic but it gets boring to have to counter attempts at Mei rushes the same way every game.
markwaters
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If he's engaged by multiple heroes, he has no way to kill more than one of them (assuming no misplays on the other team's part) or escape, so the best he can hope for is a 1-for-1 trade or a lucky second fan. If he's engaged at mid range or further, he is at a disadvantage against quite a few heroes without being able to flash-fan-roll-fan them. He needs to have superior awareness and positioning, or he will lose to good teamplay. He is slow, kind of bulky, and has no viable escape options once he's used his skills.
He's great at picking off single heroes or taking one or two heroes out of a teamfight, but if you're constantly getting caught out by him in 1v1 situations where no one can help you survive, that's completely on you as a player. No one is arguing that he isn't very good and versatile, but it's not like he single-handedly wins games. He just happens to be the answer to people who don't stick with their team -- which is fuckin' everybody since the game is brand new.
Even if counterable it makes it for unfun games. Some can be hilarious, sure, but 5 turrets games, while counterable are just annoying.
A cap at 2 of the same heros would be much better
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LurkerPrime
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McCree has poor mobility, which means it's easy to get the drop on him. Also, his only escape is a single, short-range stun. The options he has are always extremely limited; he largely relies on having people walk into him, from what I've observed.
The very thing that makes him so deadly--surprise attacks--is also his greatest weakness. But unlike other ambushers, he struggles to actually outmaneuver people to set up his surprises. He can be difficult to fight, but he's far from perfect.
Very first game I played McCree on during the beta I had 27 Eliminations, 24 streak and play of the game.
His flashbang is stupid and FTH being spammable might be dumber than that.
His only escape is a stun? Are you forgetting his roll that gets him out of sticky situations and reloads his gun to get rid of the person who is chasing him?
Reckless Onion
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holy skill based matchmaking
given equal skill he's the undisputed king of mid-range. soldier gets wrecked by mccree.
and anyone should die against anyone 2v1, that's not a weakness.
Chronospherics
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This is something you encounter frequently? How would that even work? She has no decent ranged damage, it doesn't see to be something you would need to explicitly counter.
icicle actually does a ton of damage but it's hard for most people to land.
long-range mei headshot kills are so satisfying though.
orthodoxy1095
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McCree gets destroyed without his flashbang, so you can own from medium to long-range. He's also slow as shit, which makes it easy to get around him.
I played Torb last night and kept destroying the enemy McCree.
I played Torb last night and kept destroying the enemy McCree.
Zomba13
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So my current characters I hate so much:
Zarya (those shield bubbles)
Mercy (heroes never die)
McCree (flashbang + fan = dead you 100%)
A good Tracer (doing its job and blinking in and out, distracting you and your team)
Everyone else I think is fine and I know what to do/how to counter but these I just feel useless (especially when the team doesn't' help).
Zarya (those shield bubbles)
Mercy (heroes never die)
McCree (flashbang + fan = dead you 100%)
A good Tracer (doing its job and blinking in and out, distracting you and your team)
Everyone else I think is fine and I know what to do/how to counter but these I just feel useless (especially when the team doesn't' help).
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