The Wizard
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I'd vote Tracer if only because McCree keeps getting his balance adjusted while Tracer feels fairly well situated to be really good but not oppressively overpowered.
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I'd vote Tracer if only because McCree keeps getting his balance adjusted while Tracer feels fairly well situated to be really good but not oppressively overpowered.
optimus8936
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Eh, they're probably done balancing McCree, as he's in a very good spot right now. This change to his ult is probably going to be the last thing they do for a very long time.
Why does no one want to give their thoughts on my character idea? ):
Garrett Hawke
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what was the change to mccree's ult?
TheLetdown
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I think it's a cool idea, but my main problem is in how it infringes a little on the current rosters. As is, mechanics of characters are almost completely unique.
Your idea puts a shied, Rein's unique defensive ability, and mixes in an absorption mechanic, D.Va's unique defensive ability.
It sounds fun as hell to play, though. Maybe if there were a way to make it feel less like a shield you put up? Maybe a risk/reward version, where the character becomes harder to kill as they absorb damage, but deal less damage in turn, until they release the AoE heal gas.
Might be better to have one as a parent than a spouse if history has taught us anything.
It consumes the entirety of the ult bar pretty much. Cancelling it or letting it run out no longer let's you keep 50%.
optimus8936
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I figured that having a shield that works somewhat similarly to Reins, but has different abilities, would work really well with a melee character, hence Rein, which is why I want to give this character a sword.
I don't know. I'd have to think more about it. I just kind of thought of it and wrote it without thinking about it too much and I kind of want to look into it more.
And her shield would only cover her and not her teammates, unlike Rein, but has abilities that still support them.
I have both at almost 50 hours, Tracer, oh god Tracer. McCree is not good or reliable on random teams, he NEEDS his team with him most of the time. You can be awesome with him and it do no good.
Last night I had a game on PTR where I played Reaper got a 19 kill streak tons of ults, on fire over 80% of the match on Eichenwalde attack and STILL lost. That match was eye opening.
The Omega Man
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Remember that the short "Hero" takes place like 5 years before present time, so that little girl might be 18 or 19 now, although I don't think the new hero is her.
It does? I thought it was just 5 years after the fall of Overwatch.
toadsworth
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Booted up PTR last night because I'm sick of QP. I soon remembered how frustrating competitive can be! No team, Zen's ult does NOT counter D.Va's. I swear I know more about this game than 90% of people I'm matched with.
It does? Man, I'm behind in my lore. I figured the shorts all took place relatively close to the start of the game.
McCree also constantly gets tweaked to death while Tracer hasn't been touched. I would learn a character that isn't gonna get another balance update in the near future.
The Omega Man
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AFAIK yes, that's why you don't see the LumériCo. Power plant, it was about to be build at that time
Not directly but you can block the explosion with Zen ult if allies line up behind Zen.
I think they are going to leave McCree alone for now (after the ult nerf). He is in a good spot.
TheLetdown
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I love the idea of a "bottle up and explode" kind of character.
It's like what I do with feelings in my real life, but using Overwatch damage!
Tracer is also a hell of a lot easier to be super effective with while using a controller.
Antiwhippy
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optimus8936
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Hmmm.... Maybe make it where when you use your ult, instead of just instantly knocking everyone back, you can build it up by having people shoot at you, and the more you get shot the more powerful the ult is. Maybe give her 50% damage reduction to make this easier? Although being a 400 health tank would make it ok. Then you can pop it whenever you want, but you can bottle it up and make it more powerful.
Like I said, I have to think about this a bit more and I might type up what I came up with.
Basically make this character completely revolve around people shooting at you and allowing you to heal your team. Make it where the healing for your team and yourself gets more powerful the more it gets shot at. Basically like Zarya, but this would be more short term, where Zarya is more of a long term kind of thing.
yea, good points. i'm kinda glad for that Ult nerf as well.
Pretty true. I think playing her almost feels like you're driving a race car, tbh
toadsworth
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Tracer is one of my favorite characters to play, her kit feels very natural and complements her play style so well. She's easy to play with controller though? I figured it would be more difficult since a lot of her damage requires twitch aiming.
I play on console.
Okay you guys have convinced me to go with Tracer. So glad I'll be running around with that sweet GBR skin.
But I think after Tracer, I need to learn a defensive character. I only know how to play offensives like Reaper and Zenyatta lol.
Reaper works great on defense, too. Especially on payload maps.
If you raise your sensitivity on consoles, she's pretty natural to play. I've done decent with her even tho I don't play her often.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Honestly, love mccree now that he isn't a FtH character. His kit is the most interesting and rewarding when it comes to mechanical skill imo. Because you just have to get really good at left-clicking.
toastyToast
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Ideally you aim and fire off your whole burst at once. Her spread is so wild you lose a lot of damage by correcting while firing. While a kb/m might be better, using her is more about positioning her body with respect to the target which you could probably do fine on a console
toadsworth
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Tracer aim can be kind of "twitchy" cause she moves fast but a lot of aiming with her comes down to tracking. Tracking is a thing that is actually probably easier to do on a console tbh.
McCree on the other hand is rewarded for those sweet ass flicks that are impossible on controller.
I wonder which one a console player might want to learn first.
McCree on the other hand is rewarded for those sweet ass flicks that are impossible on controller.
I wonder which one a console player might want to learn first.
optimus8936
Banned
If you're talking about the commander mode I think you're talking about, then no, please god no.What if Sombra is some kind of Commander Mode?
I'm not sure a stealth character would fit that trope. Blizz likes to stick with stereotypes. Altho Blizz could always introduce a crazy chick with another hero.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
What if sombra is commander keen?
Tracer is waaaay easier to be competent with on console. McCree is extremely hard to aim with and you're basically worthless if your aim isn't on. At least Tracer can be annoying behind the lines even if your aim isn't that great. So I'd definitely "learn" Tracer first.
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NeoRaider
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Question for Widowmaker players, out of curiosity:
How many kills you have per match with her? I am usually around 18-22. Is this bad? I think that once i had 24 but i literally started using her one week ago, and i think that i am becoming much better with every hero now because of Widowmaker.
How many kills you have per match with her? I am usually around 18-22. Is this bad? I think that once i had 24 but i literally started using her one week ago, and i think that i am becoming much better with every hero now because of Widowmaker.
I'd like to see a female pyromaniac. Junkrat is all about explosions, so I'd love to see a crazy character all about fire.
Kor of Memory
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PayOffWizard
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Id say tracer, Ive been watching a lot of the Atlantic Showdown and the tracer pulse bomb + graviton surge is a super deadly combo as it cuts through Zens Ult an still kills everyone.
Where as dead eye isnt that impactful and is used more for spacing.
He's from the future
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