Antiwhippy
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You want a mei that can do her thing long range?
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You want a mei that can do her thing long range?
Kor of Memory
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Nah. Speed seems like it would have a ton of ramifications to it.
I could see adding a 25% to cooldown or something.
Vault Dweller 111
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I like the idea but that doesn't even qualify as a nerf it's not even in the same league as 50% more damage or even 30% for that matter.
Cool ability for Sombra though.
optimus8936
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Holy shit, Surefour is a ton of fun to much. Guy is hilarious.
That doesn't really have that much of an impact though. Status effects need to be a bit more devistating than that to waste a skill on it. I guess if it adds something crazy like 10 secs to everything it would be useful though.
Kor of Memory
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I'm trying to think of every character that actually has armor that it would even matter.
Torb, obviously, since he has an ability based around it.
Winston
Reinhart
DVa
Is that it?
Edit: Bastion.
Vault Dweller 111
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Passive ability with a range like Lucio healing that affects all enemies?
You're right as a shift or e it's pretty meh.
I see, I'll tell him that tomorrow.
Kor of Memory
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It's challanging. The main thing to think about is you want to very rarely take control away from a player, and you typically want their experience to feel consistent.
The former is why people hate abilities like Ana's Sleep or McCree flashbang.
The later is why people hate it when Lucio drops an unexpected speedboost.
So typically, if you have any "status effects" you want something that doesn't interfere with these two rules as much. that doesn't mean there aren't exceptions, obviously there are. But you have to know when it's okay, and when it's not.
Vault Dweller 111
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Not letting shields recharge would be even better and would qualify as an actual ability.
Ana's grenade should already do this IMO.
Kor of Memory
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So:
Symmetra and her ability
Zarya
Zenyatta
Holy crap that seems really small for shields.
Maybe if the abilitiy did both the armor thing with the shield thing? Otherwise the possible target list is way too small.
Garrett Hawke
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Bonus: if he is a srudent, he might be entitled to a free copy of Windows
Weird, because I have heard of people getting 60fps at 720p on Low-Medium on an Intel HD 5500.
Vault Dweller 111
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Yes sorry I meant both.
It could be passive range like Lucio then you could 'shoot' it onto a enemy as an ability to stop them from escaping and recharging.
Y'all want a Zarya nerf? There ya go.
Vault Dweller 111
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Forget all that. Just put it all in the weapon.
Shoot someone and it does damage and also turns all shields and armor into regular health for 5 seconds.
Done.
Shoot someone and it does damage and also turns all shields and armor into regular health for 5 seconds.
Done.
'nerf torbjorn more pls'
how good is that when shields don't even start to recharge until 3 seconds after damage is taken
optimus8936
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I don't know if I like the idea of making an ability that nerfs characters that don't need nerfing. Rein would get hit hard by this and so would Zarya. Torb would be even more worthless than he already is, and his really hurts Symm, and Bastion.
Vault Dweller 111
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They would have to turn back into shield for that countdown to begin.
You guys really out that much stock in armor? 5 less damage every shot doesn't mean much for most characters. And even then it's not super hard to take down Dva as Tracer.
Kor of Memory
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Not really, considering it would replace the flat out "Take 30% more damage" part.
Kor of Memory
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When active all cooldowns have 200% increased cooldowns?
Hmm maybe I should give it another shot. I think I did have it on 1080 to be fair. Wasn't bad all the time but team fights were a slideshow for me
optimus8936
Banned
That seems like a little too much. Imagine having an 18 second hook cooldown. As soon as Pharah gets a discord, she's as good as dead.
This might possibly be more game breaking.
Or having Hanzos sonic arrow be 60 seconds.
Kor of Memory
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Maybe 150%?
Either way, it can only really be applied to a single person at a time anyway so it shouldn't be that bad.
Plus, don't forget the whole line of sight thing.
I have fun all the time, every single time. Believe it.
Your salt gives me life. Pharah is one of the few that can easily 2-shot me as Lucio. McCree is the chosen savior.
I had to make a gif because I could not find one that expressed my feelings correctly. lol
optimus8936
Banned
I don't think I've ever dominated a team so hard. I got bored cause everyone was dying instantly. Just a waiting game for the match the end.
Jimnymebob
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I just spent 1,000 coins to get the Zenytta Ra skin.
I'm looking forward to getting it in my next loot box.
I'm looking forward to getting it in my next loot box.
TheLetdown
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I think 30% is fine really. Just looking at it numbers wise the thing that makes it so devastating, the ability to make mccree one shot 200hp characters, is gone, and it just increases the effective range where he can land his 2 shot killing blow.
optimus8936
Banned
Definitely. Just play what you play best.
Best D.Va cosplay yet.
Shake Appeal
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Yes, although he isn't picked as frequently as Rein/Zarya, and he's really best as a complement to one of them. But that's high-level play, and if you have consistent success at other levels with him, then stick with it.
That's one smug lookin' mofo in the second pic.
optimus8936
Banned
GGs guys. Me and my friend had to go eat as well. Some fun matches there!
I still need to get better at dragon blades. Probably shouldnt have been Genji that last game when they had a Zarya and a Winston lol.
Also my first time playing Junkrat in awhile today. Need to play him more, forgot how gooood he is.
I still need to get better at dragon blades. Probably shouldnt have been Genji that last game when they had a Zarya and a Winston lol.
Also my first time playing Junkrat in awhile today. Need to play him more, forgot how gooood he is.
FAIRY GOD SOMBRA
Guy is pretty entertaining, I was watching that stream earlier as well.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
So the patch has got to leave PTR soon right? It's getting close to a week before season 2.
I actually love using McCrees roll to close in on enemies in other engagements to kill them. As many times as I've saved our Mercy by diving in and FB Fan you would think there would be more McCree Mercy shipping lol. Genji was closing in on her in a corner I just roll in and finish him ha ha. Love it when characters run into enclosed places. I just run as McCree and punish. I had a match earlier on when he was broken with fan where I basically locked down all flanking points.
Mid-2011 iMac (Radeon 6750M) on Windows 8.1 here, game runs flawlessly with no framerate issues.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
The most popular ones are mchanzo and mcpharah weirdly enough.
Let me stress what I said only applies to non-groups without a reliable dps, where e.g. D.Va can win with gold damage. Secondly let me stress it's only Mercy + Lucio I have a gripe with, not 2 supports, other combinations are fine (Lucio + Zen, or Mercy + Ana). With Mercy + Lucio you are potentially healing dud dps players; you can't afford to lose that damage, so either healer is better off going Ana or Zen to compensate.
I learned how to play Mercy in custom games. Today I played some in quick play and boy does that make me wanna die.
Yeah, I straight up stopped playing comp and only did QP when friends were around or the odd custom here and there. Like I can hang and play the meta, I have a good DPS/Tank character pool for this meta even, but I really am tired of cancer comp and rush strats being 90%+ of what I see.
That's fine though, bad patch cycles happen. Things are looking a bit up.
Yeah, I straight up stopped playing comp and only did QP when friends were around or the odd custom here and there. Like I can hang and play the meta, I have a good DPS/Tank character pool for this meta even, but I really am tired of cancer comp and rush strats being 90%+ of what I see.
That's fine though, bad patch cycles happen. Things are looking a bit up.
Garrett Hawke
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I still don't get how McHanzo happened tbh. I don't have an issue with it and I appreciate art of pretty much all of the ships in the game, I just done quite get how that one came about
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