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Overwatch |OT5| 15 Million Strong, None Are On The Payload
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RockTurtle
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Sorry you had to go through that man , it must have been frustrating
is it as frustrating as attack torbjorns on control maps?
DevilDog
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Bastion because he is the worst hero in the game.
Mei because of her wall. The amount of times she has blocked my ults is insane. And she was in my team.
Being an Overwatch player is suffering.
To be honest I barely play Bastion, only once in skirmish to try him out. I think he is a bit redundant when we already have Torbjörn who deploys a machine gun. And after reading that, I will be careful if I choose Mei.
Ryo Hazuki
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A lot of angry people play ranked and tell you to kill yourself after losing a round in Overwatch it seems. A lot of the time we go on to win too. How do these people consciously type this stuff? It's seriously mental issues, no other way around it.
Haha, no it wasn't that frustrating. Just frustrating that people aren't concerned enough to switch when an enemy team has that many counters to them waltzing in. Like a Pharah who won't switch when the enemy team has multiple hitscan characters, or a Reinhardt who tries to push through a chokepoint when he knows Mei is waiting to wall him off from his teammates.
divisionbyzorro
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If you have a Mei on your team, call out your ult percentages (you should be calling them out anyway). Let your team know you're about to blow your ult. It's really easy to blame your Mei for blocking your ult, but did you tell your Mei that you were going to use it?
If you don't call out your ult, then you are at least partially to blame (if not entirely to blame) for getting blocked. You don't know what the Mei saw and what she might be blocking you from getting hit by.
If you don't call out your ult, then you are at least partially to blame (if not entirely to blame) for getting blocked. You don't know what the Mei saw and what she might be blocking you from getting hit by.
finalflame
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I'd rather just not have a Mei on my team, tbh. Everyone things their Mei game is going to be some HIGH-OCTANE FREEZING ON POINT WALL BUILDING, but in reality they just end up being kinda meh.
But Mei can cancel the wall. She should cancel it asap when she hears ally ult.
But calling ults is always good.
RockTurtle
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i made it a point to only use icewalls for seperating tank from healers, isolating single targets from group, blocking ults (particularly mcree/roadhog/genjis) and MAINLY for runaway tactics .
if i mess up and icewall without any of those happening I quickly press E and destroy it even if i die.
EDIT:
basically the only point i ever ice with enemies is to have someone on the side of the wall that my team is attacking. Blocking off a choke point when the goal isnt to prevent a point cap just gives the enemies a chance to regroup usually and come with a deathball.
if i mess up and icewall without any of those happening I quickly press E and destroy it even if i die.
EDIT:
basically the only point i ever ice with enemies is to have someone on the side of the wall that my team is attacking. Blocking off a choke point when the goal isnt to prevent a point cap just gives the enemies a chance to regroup usually and come with a deathball.
LucidMomentum
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It's like in Dota 2, when you know you have the advantage / coordination, you don't want to play your hand until the moment is right.
Make it look like you don't have detection against that invisible hero. Then when they push too far, you kill.
Mei shouldn't give the other team time to regroup, like you said. She should be causing chaos by blocking single targets, halting movement, separating teammates, halting retreats, and annoying the crap out of the team by just poking at them in tons of little ways.
A lot of Bastions just seem to lack awareness. The ones that set up in good spots, move around, and don't get flanked are great, but that's pretty rare from the games I've played with Bastions.
Most meis never cancel their wall, but its such a good mechanic. In fact it should be used more offensively. Put up wall, Dva ult behind it, enemy team doesnt see where it is and doesn't know where to run (or thinks mei fucked over their team), cancel wall at last second and boom, everyone's fried. Could probably work with other ults too in a similar fashion. Can't dodge a rein ult if you don't know reins behind that wall.
My main problem with mei is her freeze mechanic, which is her whole reaosn for being, much like turrets, its just not a fun mechanic. Too many characters don't have the maneuverability to escape a surprise mei freeze. It's just not fun because there's no skill on either side behind it. Much like turrets, its just hey this auto aim thing picked you off at low health, cool.
Also much like symmetra, because of people's dislike or not paying attention to them, its too easy for them in a lot of solo queue games for people to ignore them in the middle of a frey. So even though your whole team is around you, you get frozen and picked off because people don't focus her. I mean, that parts not a mechanic part at the fault of overwatch as a game, just some added frustration.
Wyndstryker
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There are probably A LOT of people who are ranked far higher than they should mainly because DPS chars get ranked better than the other classes, so their placements went far better. And the vast majority of people autopick a DPS char.
If given enough time the rankings should stablize with people being ranked where they are. A lot of people overestimate their own skill.
But you need a great coordination to do that. With friends it is likely possible, but trying to do it with unknown players is impossible. And sadly, I am part of the problem because I do not say a single word and I feel this game needs this a lot, more than any other game that I have previously tried.
This is a video on how to play flanker as Lucio. Meanwhile, your team is suffering with little to no heals and minimal speedboost because this guy is rarely in LoS of his team. Impressive wall riding though.
Here's the thing. If I have a Bastion on my team that sets up in a good position I will do everything in my power to support him or her as a healer. As an example, one of my placement matches had a Bastion on the 1st defense point of Anubis and I was playing Zenyatta and we also had a Mercy. I kept my heal orb on him and Mercy dmg boosted him and the assists were rolling in.
We kept him alive for a good couple of minutes while they tried to push forward and at the end of the match he ended up having something like 45% of our team's total damage and a ton of eliminations. I maintain that most heroes played properly and smartly can wreck in the right situation.
Eh, see above. Bastion can be used effectively even against good teams if they aren't expecting him. How and when you use a character is as big a factor as who you are using. The trick is not to fall in love with him and refuse to switch. He's situational in the current meta much like Symmetra or Torb.
toastyToast
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Finished my placements and got 2559 with 6-4. Plat boys!
Last game was on Numbani and the other team finished with 1m left while we had almost 4. They capped the point the second time around almost instantly and rode the damn thing on overtime all the way to the final bend. It took us until there were 20s left to cap and after shitting my pants at how well the other team did we managed to get it just further than them.
Went half an half healing + tank. Wonder what I would have got if I played dps
Last game was on Numbani and the other team finished with 1m left while we had almost 4. They capped the point the second time around almost instantly and rode the damn thing on overtime all the way to the final bend. It took us until there were 20s left to cap and after shitting my pants at how well the other team did we managed to get it just further than them.
Went half an half healing + tank. Wonder what I would have got if I played dps
I'd probably get gold
divisionbyzorro
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If you have a Bastion on your team, you should support the hell out of him until the enemy proves they can deal with it.. At that moment, you should stop playing Bastion altogether.
Catch 22 if you ask a sucky DPS to heal you are an asshat, if you are a DPS kicking ass and ask for more support you have no life.
divisionbyzorro
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I've started letting the first three-or-so players pick first. The way I see it, no matter what people pick, it's essentially a toss-up if they're going to play that role well. I'd rather see them at least pick heroes they want to play. Once the first few picks have been made, I'll pick based on what the gaps are shaping up to be - I'm comfortable with enough heroes to where I feel like I can be useful no matter the gaps.
Vault Dweller 111
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Yea, you let me get to a higher SR than you. How can you stand that shame?
Listen to this man! Wise advice right here. Also, watch the One Trick Bastion guide that was posted a page or so back. It's actually good advice on how to play robot boy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSQkdNshQ8Y
More good advice! I like the way you think.
toastyToast
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During my placement I came up against a triple stack of diamond players. I thought that wasn't allowed? We also had a self processed Bastion main on our team. That shit did not go well.
I wish more people had this mentality in competitive. It's frustrating. A lot only wanna play for themselves, that or they're so one dimensional with their characters (attackers only). Like if it's quick play have at it and pick who you want. But comp should be with players helping the team fill much need roles rather than padding stats.
That negative stigma already exists on PC. I've never seen anyone complain about him on console, but whenever anyone plays him on PC, at least one person gets as upset about it as they would a Widowmaker or a Hanzo.
I think they're fucking crazy. A good Junkrat wins games and is far more consistent than a sniper.
Rip-Tire is one of the best ways to take out healers in the game. I think a lot of Junkrats get greedy and go for the easy triple kill, only to have it rezzed, but Tire should be going straight for that Mercy almost every time.
lol, I lost like 250 points the last night I played. Played with a guy that wasn't cool with me being Mei, kinda lost interest. I don't like people pushing me to play heroes I don't want to.
Newtype-001
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People still dying to spawn door scattershot😂.
I love it.
Its pretty much guaranteed cause people only seem to expect that in qp.
Also picked Hanzo on hanamura for once in comp gold in elims and damage which was nice
Might have gotten potg as well if mercy resssing 3 people wasnt instalock potg now
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I love it.
Its pretty much guaranteed cause people only seem to expect that in qp.
Also picked Hanzo on hanamura for once in comp gold in elims and damage which was nice
Might have gotten potg as well if mercy resssing 3 people wasnt instalock potg now
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I quote from a game I played yesterday "Junkrat is useless. Junkrat will always be useless".
Our Junkrat wasn't useless, the rest of our DPS was just terrible at focusing fire. The Junkrat was really good about downing the Rein shield that was sitting on our payload and I would put the Discord on him immediately, but he would always be able to get away and recharge it, because the rest of our DPS was off trying some pro MLG flanking strats and getting picked off one at a time completely away from the rest of the team.
So, they were just mad because they wanted to play Call of Duty and get a good K/D, but Junkrat was the only one actually attempting to move the objective, and he got all the shit.
That's ELO hell.
clockworkinyou
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no fucking way
Shouta
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A really dangerous Unicorn. Even in Comp play, Torb and even Bastion on Defense are scary if they know what to do and the teammates are smart enough to take advantage of it. Of course, the problem is finding a Torb that knows their own strengths. Way too many Torbs don't even use their greatest tool, being able to attack from multiple angles at the same time.
Did you see where she placed her turrets? I'm genuinely curious what that player thought Sym could accomplish there.
Where would you put the teleporter, on the left or right side of the choke with the health packs? What a joke.
Shouta
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I know. I play tanks mostly. I just wanted to make a primate joke!
what's your PSN? I'm Owzers, i'm still looking for a few more fun PS4 small group people for good comp matches with maybe mic usage when i'm not playing qp with my one irl overwatcher friend.
I'm on PC so I forgot his battle tag numbers, but his two teammates were absolutely amazing. I think he's been carried hard.
The Wizard
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We got a group of 3 at the moment if you wanna hop on?
I'm TomABrook, already have you my friend
Just got invited to a 3 man group. Is it the same one?
Would need two more for triple support tank
Wyndstryker
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Not only that, most torbs don't even know the hammer is an awesome melee weapon.
tfw when GAF usernames and PSN IDs don't match
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