toastyToast
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I've seen 60-something. Usually means there's a bad Pharah/Junkrat not actually sealing kills
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I've seen 60-something. Usually means there's a bad Pharah/Junkrat not actually sealing kills
toastyToast
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Winston, zarya and mei.
Happened to me with Genji...
Finn of Ooo
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Roadhog is always a problem for me when I play him, McCree as well if he knows how to use his flashbang properly.
McCree too, to an extent.
Go for Zenyatta, discord orb makes him a weeaboo ninja and his ult cockblock him.
Mei and Winston are not good imo, Genji can kite them and escape when things become ugly.
Also Roadhog can shutdown Genji.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I consider chasing them off as mei as winning. Plus her freeze counters deflect which a seriously important tool for him.
Also Winston can chase genji really easily.
Yes yes yes, Iive gotten in the habit of always starting the conversation before the game starts, jus staying hi and being positive. It usually works but roughly 25 percent of the time there's also some group I have to beg to come over to team chat and once they do they just start seeing memes into the mics or simolar inane shit and think its hilarious. HOWEVER if you're calling out things they usually listen unless they're being a dick out of spite or something.
optimus8936
Banned
I thought Mei was the worst hero in the game for the first 10 hours because I didn't know she had an alt fire.
It made a big difference knowing that, I could actually kill things lol.
But in doing so, it means that teammate who wants to stick to Hanzo and attack Torb will also be penalized less, giving more allowance for this sort of shit to happen. Solo queuer joins a 5-man team? Decides to pick Hanzo? YOLO!
Having a group meaning having higher stakes ? Not sure how I feel about that. On one hand, yes groups have a lot of advantages over solo players and loosing as a solo player might not always be your fault.
On the other hand, I'm afraid people will less likely be in groups in fear that they'll loose more points because of bad performance.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Or they could have a separate solo q queue if they're sensible.
TheLetdown
Member
This.
Plus, a loss is a loss is a loss, no matter how you queued.
I'd like to have match-ups looked at. For solo queuers, emphasize the possibility of an all solo-q match. If not, because I also don't want a year-long matchmaking wait, keep the team + solo balanced so you NEVER see 2 teams of 2 + 2 solos vs all solo. That's ridiculous and it's more frequent than infrequent.
And then rank. I don't give a fuck if the game thinks I'm a rank whatever in my internal MMR metric. I'll never get to the rank I "should" be at if I keep getting matched with the ranks higher than me.
Let me cruise through the ranks I "shouldn't" be at, even if it means stomping the upper 50's / lower 60's to get at the mid-to-high 60s that I keep getting matched with. Because if I'm going tit-for-tat on wins and losses, I'm trapped in the same shuffle of levels.
Also, if Blizzard could take a look at my account specifically and buff my playing so I suck less, that would be cool. Otherwise, Blizz is a shit company and I'm never buying their products again!1!1!!1!
CyberPunked
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Yeah, it's ridiculous that you can be matched against an entire team which are in a party.
So what happens to 5-man groups?
Interesting
About a month ago I ran into someone playing lvl 40 reaper that destroyed everyone in a way I never experienced before, literally insane., and their career profile showed them only ever playing reaper for ten minutes prior. Posted about it here and people said boosting wasn't a thing in overwatch and there's no way a level 60-70 would be around level 40. Glad to see I'm not crazy as I've seen similar stuff a handful of times since then. It's not fun when it happens and it's probably the only time that I consider just dropping. If I'm in the mood I'll take it as a challenge but usually just wind up frustrated because they can pick off u coordinated teams so easily.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
In the general queue i guess?
Holy shit. Just added some people who I had a good game with and we went on a winning train. Went from 40 to 49. Last game we had before calling it a night we lost but it was super close, came down to sudden death and we were unfortunately on defense. All good though, the other team played really well as well.
Overwatch is fun again.
Overwatch is fun again.
toastyToast
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Getting a bit better with McCree but I'm so streaky with him. Really dependent on the team to come together otherwise I get rekt repeatedly whereas with Tracer/Pharah I've got a lot more freedom to create opportunities.
While Discord is kind of nuts and needs to be looked at, pinging a headshot on an attack hero and instantly killing them is a delicious feeling.
While Discord is kind of nuts and needs to be looked at, pinging a headshot on an attack hero and instantly killing them is a delicious feeling.
No I mean, if Solo Queuers are in their own queue, who can get matched up into a 5-man group?
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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Why are people attacking with Torbjorn in that Egypt map? Jesus man. There is always this one troll.
Another note on "smurfs"-- on PS4 you don't even need to buy another copy of the game, you simply switch around your primary account and you can use your game/PS+ on a new account.
And to clarify, they definitely aren't smurfing with their higher level friends to help their new account reach top 500, it's the other way around. There are also those who smurf because high level play isn't fun (because they aren't good enough) and so they go back down so they can pub stomp.
Overwatch is definitely at its best when you're on the winning team
And to clarify, they definitely aren't smurfing with their higher level friends to help their new account reach top 500, it's the other way around. There are also those who smurf because high level play isn't fun (because they aren't good enough) and so they go back down so they can pub stomp.
Overwatch is definitely at its best when you're on the winning team
Also helps to have cool people on mic to coordinate with, the group just worked so well together. Most games we played we were steamrolling. Never saw more than two victories in a row until today, planning to do it all again tomorrow.Overwatch is definitely at its best when you're on the winning team
Another note on "smurfs"-- on PS4 you don't even need to buy a copy of the game, you simply switch around your primary account and you can use your game/PS+ on a new account.
And to clarify, they definitely aren't smurfing with their higher level friends to help their new account reach top 500, it's the other way around. There are also those who smurf because high level play isn't fun (because they aren't good enough) and so they go back down so they can pub stomp.
Overwatch is definitely at its best when you're on the winning team
I think the secret to a good multiplayer game is that it's fun even when you're losing. I think Overwatch definitely is that when your teammates aren't exasperately idiotic (eg. I still see Level 50+ run straight at Solider 76, Genji & Junkrat Specials). Unfortunately, that's quite rare.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
No I mean, if Solo Queuers are in their own queue, who can get matched up into a 5-man group?
Hmm, good point actually. Guess it can only work to separate 6 groups from everyone else.
Actually, it works if that Torb knows what he's doing. He could put turret near the entrance and it actually can annoy the defenders especially if they have a Pharah and he can run in during it. I saw other Torb dudes use that method in my previous games. Better than an Attacking Bastion at least.
toadsworth
Banned
Played overwatch all weekend long. So much fun. We played until 3.30am friday night without even realizing it. I'm working on expanding my hero selection so that I can get better with all the heroes (except snipers, I'm trash at sniping). Do you guys focus on a few heroes or do you diversify a lot? I feel like I may be over reaching by playing so many heroes. Jack of all trades, master of none and all that.
Good to have a main but also play a few other alts in case it's needed. I played with everyone just to understand how they play so they're easier to counter. Play everyone but master a few you enjoy playing the most.
I definitely diversify what I play since you can end up not getting the character you want in Comp and end up being deadweight.
Having a character you like to play in DPS, Support and Tank is best.
So you have a Solo Queue queue, a 6-man Group queue, and another Queue for 2-man, 3-man, and 4-man Groups? Sounds like a mess. Players get further segregated and matchmaking takes even longer to find matches? I dunno...
There's no perfect way but I would prefer a solo-duo que (maybe increase that to up to groups of 3) and a full 6 people team que including team ranks.
Red Arremer
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Why would they be awarded this week?
Nobody knows for sure, but since they're one of the rewards for completing season 1 at a certain rank, it's presumably at the end of season 1.
So who are 4-man groups going to match with? I seriously don't think people think this through in both directions.
toadsworth
Banned
Tanking is my favorite role, I can play all the Tanks competently in order to counter other teams. The only support I really enjoy is Lucio (Zen is good too, but I'm not quite as good with him). I like a lot of DPS too though... I need to get better at reading the other team and picking a good DPS counter. I think I'll focus on Tracer and Pharah since I enjoy playing them the most.
Because Season 1 ends on Aug 17, this Wednesday, unless they changed it?
I don't know--I feel that having to be so reliant on your team makes for a better higher level experience. While a game that's fun when you're losing is great and fun to play more casually, I find the games that are soul crushing (exaggerating just a bit here) when you're losing to be much more rewarding in the long term. Overwatch reminds me of Dota in that it's so reliant on your teammates, and they're both similar in that the highs are incredibly high and lows are incredibly lows, and carrying your team relies not only on your skill but your ability to orchestrate plays and make good callouts.
But that sort of gets lost in the 50s. I've been there and feel your pain there--some other players are just trash. But I'm a strong believer that a game should be balanced from the top down, rather than accomadating the lowest common denominator.
I should also note that I still have fun when I'm losing, usually because I'm playing with good players that communicate, and I'm trying to learn from the loss to improve later.
So who are 4-man groups going to match with? I seriously don't think people think this through in both directions.
Yeah I don't think this game has the population to do separate queues.
A surprise offensive Bastion can be clutch, but an offensive Torb will get destroyed by a halfway decent team. He is a joke in the current meta.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
So it turns out that fighting a 6 tracer team is a pretty good way to learn your flick shots.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
If it's Defense, that's actually a pretty good team. If it's attack than I have no idea how you won.
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