I agree that it isn't for a non-African American to say whether or not you can or should use it. That's obviously absurd. But in contexts such as this http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhbYHmKA8Mma7IJJsu (I grabbed the first confrontation video on their front page) it is extremely sad to hear. Should you care that it makes me sad? No. I am curious what you hear it in it, though.
Piers Morgan: If black Americans want the N-word to die, they will have to kill it
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I agree that it isn't for a non-African American to say whether or not you can or should use it. That's obviously absurd. But in contexts such as this http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhbYHmKA8Mma7IJJsu (I grabbed the first confrontation video on their front page) it is extremely sad to hear. Should you care that it makes me sad? No. I am curious what you hear it in it, though.
Imperial Bishop
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I bet my dreads that there are still racists in this world who use "coon".
Just a month ago, I heard a fairly middle-aged couple refer to blacks as "colored".
While "colored" isn't as offensive as "coon" or "nigger", it's still used even to this day by a handful of people.
It's not that easy. As long as racism towards blacks exists, that word will most likely still be thrown around.
Especially in the anonymous internet age, where kids and trolls can spew racist remarks without fear of punishment.
Yeah and that's a problem. Do Jews allow Holocaust jokes? Do Germans like to be called Nazis? I hate the word is being said by more and more people every year and it gets more and more common place in spite of the history and obvious implications.
It's stupid that slavery, Jim Crow, and systematic racism against black people happen in America over a 400 year period and the n-word is the encompassing word to describe the experience but some black people "1984" it and say that it's OK to say it. It's racism that allowed that in that white producers only put Black Americans in the media who are ratchet and say stupid stuff like the n-word and while White Americans look and laugh and revile in their own faked cultural superiority.
As far as racists are concerned, they see a culture that sees no problem in denigrating itself when they as a culture lead people into falsely thinking of the myth of white civility in that they as a culture wouldn't dare denigrate their own ethnic and culture heritages.
block tower
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My point was that anything can go away. Nothing is too ingrained. There's no telling what will make something like this go away but throwing it around like it's cherry pie won't do it.
GameGuru59
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I think I large part of the reason they say it, is precisely because people complain about it. It's taboo. It's saying "fuck you world" when you perceive that the world doesn't give a fuck about you.
jordan0386
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Who cares about the word.
Lets end Institutionalized Racism.
LOL, I know I know...
Lets end Institutionalized Racism.
LOL, I know I know...
Vermillion
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Getting an education/job is not comparable to not using a word. Come on.
Imperial Bishop
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That's too much work for white folk. Black people need to fix their own problems. lol
Perhaps both sides should make an effort instead of pointing fingers at one another
AyaisMUsikWhore
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My mother showed this to me a long time ago and watching it again still brings me to tears. I was very moved by this
Too much work for everyone.
GameGuru59
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I can be easily persuaded if one supplies certain assets...
Imperial Bishop
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Chie Satonaka
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By all means. Enlighten us fine folk here at NeoGAF.com about how else black folks can legitimize themselves to the oppressive culture in which they continue to live in on a day to day basis.
CadetMahoney
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why are there so many derogatory words for black ppl but hardly any for white?
smh
reminds me of this:
http://youtu.be/qg48ZZ2wYfM?t=2m4s
smh
reminds me of this:
http://youtu.be/qg48ZZ2wYfM?t=2m4s
Because white people made the words to assert fake cultural dominance.
Again though, there are bad words against white cultures but somehow they actively try to make sure they're not used...
double jump
you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
This shit... this shit nearly broke my soul.
Be forewarned that this is not a comedy set.
GameGuru59
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Oh, don't say that... there are quite a few I can think of... I remember once when I was on a field trip to a private school for VERY well to do people in Tennessee, and one of my friends randomly yelled out "Heeey snow bunnay!!" so everyone on the campus could hear it. Very embarrassing.
Racist is one.
Racist not on list. List invalid. Look, the only think that white folk get upset about being called is racist. Just being real.
Not a single one of those would mean shit to me.
GameGuru59
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Well, yes. I think being enslaved kind of added some teeth to the n word when white people say it. Same with the holocaust and "lol Jews and money" memes. Ditto for Native Americans and violent land grabs making the word redskins offensive. And I'm pretty sure most white women would consider "hey snow bunny!" offensive. It's basically a black man's way of saying "Come here white girl who is sexually repressed/unsatisfied and let me corrupt you with my big black dick. You know you want it."
Where's the return receipt?
Chie Satonaka
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I don't think they want him either.
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I kinda feel like black people should be the only ones deciding the appropriate usage of the word. To be honest it's kind of weird and embarrassing to see white people commenting about it like it's their problem now. I don't have any opinion on how black people choose to use it. Who cares if you can't say it? Find something else to get your panties in a bunch over.
Chie Satonaka
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I don't know if you're in the minority or not, but yes, you're correct, and it's also been touched upon by someone who doesn't have his his head up his own ass:
Imperial Bishop
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There are a ton for white people, but when you try to use any of them as an insult, you get something like this.
Poltergust
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Wasn't there a scene like this in Mean Girls?
boiled goose
good with gravy
How about we kill racism?
"I don't recall Martin Luther King Jr ever using the N-word."
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/532177500386775041
Am I a wizard?
Broder Salsa
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What if you just want Piers Morgan to die?
jk, was a bantergate joke ok, he's king of bantering players off
That or you've heard that argument a million times on GAF and from other racists.
I like to believe I am a wizard.
But yeah this Racist No Jutsu secret technique just started recently but it amazing how many now use it. It's the new "I have black friends".
Niggas need to whip niggas who say nigga until nigga dies.
And yet they still put a bullet in his ass because he was black.
This is your reminder that the King Estate filed a successful lawsuit claiming the federal government had assassinated MLK.
This is also a reminder that Dr. King absolutely did not buy into white people telling the oppressed how they should struggle.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Really fitting quote.
BeatResetsTheWorld
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I was just thinking there needs to be more white british guys telling black americans how to live their lives.
making the N word more hush hush is like Harry Potter universe making Voldemort a no no thing to say, it gives it more power
i think some ancient eastern philosophy also says something is given more power by restricting it or knowing something about it but i can't remember
i'm not saying people should openly start saying it but it might lose its power to the more people just see it as a word thats not that important, its only gained strength by having it be so restrictive that people are very careful with it rather than just letting it die or lose its strength by having the definition change or i don't know now.....bye
i think some ancient eastern philosophy also says something is given more power by restricting it or knowing something about it but i can't remember
i'm not saying people should openly start saying it but it might lose its power to the more people just see it as a word thats not that important, its only gained strength by having it be so restrictive that people are very careful with it rather than just letting it die or lose its strength by having the definition change or i don't know now.....bye
Like i grew up in a pretty religious household so swear words were like omg but as you branch out and see other people using those words they are exciting for a bit then they lose its power the more people use them, even gets to a poitn when swearing is like why bother its a show or something, it becomes not big deal as it was made out to be
restricting the word is just going to make it have more power like the ring of power
restricting the word is just going to make it have more power like the ring of power
This line really stood out
"who is more devoted to order than to justice;"
Reminds me of how everybody started bitching about the riots in Ferguson, but not the fact that Mike Brown was executed in cold blood.
Piers is already starting off wrong. The average black US citizen does not want the n-word (-a or -er) to die. They want non black US citizens to stop using the word outside of special context (historical re-enactments, books, etc...). The average black person in the US is ok with the n-word and it's variations being used by other black people.
So since the n-word being used by non black people is what's causing the outrage over the word the majority of the time, someone should ask Piers why he won't direct this question at non black US citizens using this word? That's the simplest solution and goes directly at the problem vs shifting the burden onto the people who are being offended. Piers and people who think like them need to ask themselves why is it so difficult to grasp that a word can only be used by one group of people while not being used by other groups.
In addition, they also need to grasp that it isn't "just" the word that is offending most US black people, but who is using the word and how it is being used. The word can and has been substituted for everything from Mondays to Canadians and those words immediately become offensive because of the context and who the words are being used to label. So even if the N-word was banned, the context the N-word was used in would still exist for other words be used in it's place.
Mixolydian
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Missed this. I may be way off, but is 'wizard' being used by some in the way 'ninja' is?
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