Piers Morgan: If black Americans want the N-word to die, they will have to kill it

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It will be a beautiful day when white folks stop trying to tell minorities (in this case, blacks) what to do.

I personally don't care for use of the word and don't use it, but I am not speaking for everyone. For many of us, using it is somewhat empowering. For others it can be used as a term of endearment. And for some of us, the word is something we want to leave behind.

At the end of the day, the black community deserves to have some fucking control of what we do and say. It's always some douchebag trying to tell us what to do. Fuck that noise.

I agree that it isn't for a non-African American to say whether or not you can or should use it. That's obviously absurd. But in contexts such as this http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhbYHmKA8Mma7IJJsu (I grabbed the first confrontation video on their front page) it is extremely sad to hear. Should you care that it makes me sad? No. I am curious what you hear it in it, though.
 
Coon went away. I don't hear the word faggot being thrown around as flippantly as I used to. Why not this in time? Too hard? Too ingrained?

I bet my dreads that there are still racists in this world who use "coon".
Just a month ago, I heard a fairly middle-aged couple refer to blacks as "colored".
While "colored" isn't as offensive as "coon" or "nigger", it's still used even to this day by a handful of people.

There was a time in the history of this very country when the exact same thing was thought about the institution of slavery. It went away, and so will this word when people start putting their money where their mouth is. It is only around now because people tolerate it.

It's not that easy. As long as racism towards blacks exists, that word will most likely still be thrown around.
Especially in the anonymous internet age, where kids and trolls can spew racist remarks without fear of punishment.
 
A ton of kids see the n-word as literally just something Black people say in music. I've heard a handful white and Hispanic kids say that "if you say it with an A it's never offensive" and use the word to describe each other all the time when joking around. For a lot of them, it's fun because it's such a taboo.
Yeah and that's a problem. Do Jews allow Holocaust jokes? Do Germans like to be called Nazis? I hate the word is being said by more and more people every year and it gets more and more common place in spite of the history and obvious implications.

It's stupid that slavery, Jim Crow, and systematic racism against black people happen in America over a 400 year period and the n-word is the encompassing word to describe the experience but some black people "1984" it and say that it's OK to say it. It's racism that allowed that in that white producers only put Black Americans in the media who are ratchet and say stupid stuff like the n-word and while White Americans look and laugh and revile in their own faked cultural superiority.

As far as racists are concerned, they see a culture that sees no problem in denigrating itself when they as a culture lead people into falsely thinking of the myth of white civility in that they as a culture wouldn't dare denigrate their own ethnic and culture heritages.
 
I used to say f*ggot fairly often. Once, a girl chastised me for using it. I might still use it around friends who get that I'm using it to describe a person I really don't like, but I can't really remember saying it after this fairly attractive lady told me not to. If women begin to think its unacceptable to use the word, most men will stop using the word. In short, make it in my interest to stop using it. Otherwise, I don't really think there's any harm in using any word as long as you're not intending to hurt somebody (I didn't use f*ggot in the presence of the person I was referring to).

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But "coon" just sort of went away. Language evolves and some words die, and it's hard to pinpoint why some words die and others don't.

But Coon didn't die because black people collectively decided to stop using it.
My point was that anything can go away. Nothing is too ingrained. There's no telling what will make something like this go away but throwing it around like it's cherry pie won't do it.
 
Yeah and that's a problem. Do Jews allow Holocaust jokes? Do Germans like to be called Nazis? I hate the word is being said by more and more people every year and it gets more and more common place in spite of the history and obvious implications.

I think I large part of the reason they say it, is precisely because people complain about it. It's taboo. It's saying "fuck you world" when you perceive that the world doesn't give a fuck about you.
 
This sounds awfully close to what crabs at the bottom of the barrel say to keep another brown person down.

Just because EVERY positive action will not directly end with liberation does not mean we can not take ANY positive action in the interim.

Getting college educated does not stop from police from harassing you....so why waste time on college?

Getting a well paying job won't stop white people from being racist....so why work at all?

That is a defeatist way of thinking. We should aim for excellence because that is what it will take to make us the best we can be, not just because of what some other group will or will not do for us at that point. Lets get real nobody is going to hand you anything, revolution will have to be grasped from the hands of the power structure in due time. During that period brothers and sisters are going to have to go through an awakening, and stopping that referring to each other by labels of the oppressor is one way we today can become better.

Getting an education/job is not comparable to not using a word. Come on.
 
It's like 'motherfucker' it has long lost its original meaning and has become just another word without much impact. I don't get the fuzz about it at all.
 
Perhaps both sides should make an effort instead of pointing fingers at one another

By all means. Enlighten us fine folk here at NeoGAF.com about how else black folks can legitimize themselves to the oppressive culture in which they continue to live in on a day to day basis.
 
why are there so many derogatory words for black ppl but hardly any for white?
Because white people made the words to assert fake cultural dominance.

Again though, there are bad words against white cultures but somehow they actively try to make sure they're not used...
 
Not a single one of those would mean shit to me.
Well, yes. I think being enslaved kind of added some teeth to the n word when white people say it. Same with the holocaust and "lol Jews and money" memes. Ditto for Native Americans and violent land grabs making the word redskins offensive. And I'm pretty sure most white women would consider "hey snow bunny!" offensive. It's basically a black man's way of saying "Come here white girl who is sexually repressed/unsatisfied and let me corrupt you with my big black dick. You know you want it."
 
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I kinda feel like black people should be the only ones deciding the appropriate usage of the word. To be honest it's kind of weird and embarrassing to see white people commenting about it like it's their problem now. I don't have any opinion on how black people choose to use it. Who cares if you can't say it? Find something else to get your panties in a bunch over.
 
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I kinda feel like black people should be the only ones deciding the appropriate usage of the word. To be honest it's kind of weird and embarrassing to see white people commenting about it like it's their problem now. I don't have any opinion on how black people choose to use it. Who cares if you can't say it? Find something else to get your panties in a bunch over.

I don't know if you're in the minority or not, but yes, you're correct, and it's also been touched upon by someone who doesn't have his his head up his own ass:

Piers should shut up and take a page outta the book of my boy Tim. He gets it.
 
That or you've heard that argument a million times on GAF and from other racists.

I like to believe I am a wizard.

But yeah this Racist No Jutsu secret technique just started recently but it amazing how many now use it. It's the new "I have black friends".
 
Niggas need to whip niggas who say nigga until nigga dies.



And yet they still put a bullet in his ass because he was black.
This is your reminder that the King Estate filed a successful lawsuit claiming the federal government had assassinated MLK.

This is also a reminder that Dr. King absolutely did not buy into white people telling the oppressed how they should struggle.

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: ‘I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action’; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a ‘more convenient season.’ Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
 
making the N word more hush hush is like Harry Potter universe making Voldemort a no no thing to say, it gives it more power

i think some ancient eastern philosophy also says something is given more power by restricting it or knowing something about it but i can't remember

i'm not saying people should openly start saying it but it might lose its power to the more people just see it as a word thats not that important, its only gained strength by having it be so restrictive that people are very careful with it rather than just letting it die or lose its strength by having the definition change or i don't know now.....bye
 
Like i grew up in a pretty religious household so swear words were like omg but as you branch out and see other people using those words they are exciting for a bit then they lose its power the more people use them, even gets to a poitn when swearing is like why bother its a show or something, it becomes not big deal as it was made out to be

restricting the word is just going to make it have more power like the ring of power
 
This is your reminder that the King Estate filed a successful lawsuit claiming the federal government had assassinated MLK.

This is also a reminder that Dr. King absolutely did not buy into white people telling the oppressed how they should struggle.

This line really stood out

"who is more devoted to “order” than to justice;"

Reminds me of how everybody started bitching about the riots in Ferguson, but not the fact that Mike Brown was executed in cold blood.
 
If black Americans want the N-word to die, they will have to kill it themselves

Piers is already starting off wrong. The average black US citizen does not want the n-word (-a or -er) to die. They want non black US citizens to stop using the word outside of special context (historical re-enactments, books, etc...). The average black person in the US is ok with the n-word and it's variations being used by other black people.

So since the n-word being used by non black people is what's causing the outrage over the word the majority of the time, someone should ask Piers why he won't direct this question at non black US citizens using this word? That's the simplest solution and goes directly at the problem vs shifting the burden onto the people who are being offended. Piers and people who think like them need to ask themselves why is it so difficult to grasp that a word can only be used by one group of people while not being used by other groups.

In addition, they also need to grasp that it isn't "just" the word that is offending most US black people, but who is using the word and how it is being used. The word can and has been substituted for everything from Mondays to Canadians and those words immediately become offensive because of the context and who the words are being used to label. So even if the N-word was banned, the context the N-word was used in would still exist for other words be used in it's place.
 
I like to believe I am a wizard.

But yeah this Racist No Jutsu secret technique just started recently but it amazing how many now use it. It's the new "I have black friends".

Missed this. I may be way off, but is 'wizard' being used by some in the way 'ninja' is?
 
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