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Oh fuck off. You think any of the Republican alternatives are expert historians? He made a mistake, he apologised, it's an ambiguous phrase, and certainly nothing to get "truly outraged" about in this day and age.
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Oh fuck off. You think any of the Republican alternatives are expert historians? He made a mistake, he apologised, it's an ambiguous phrase, and certainly nothing to get "truly outraged" about in this day and age.
kingkaiser
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Rewriting historical facts and history itself, even through simple incompetence, should always be a matter for outrage and especially in this day and age.
So then I assume you're calling for the Polish leader's ouster too.
Although....how was he arrogant when apologizing?
kingkaiser
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Donald Tusk tries to rewrite history? Never heard about that.
I apologize, it was the foreign minister Radek Sidorski. Donald Tusk is just trying to stoke outrage after an apology has already been issued for a simple error by a speechwriter.
AwesomePossum
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this is basically the plank of the modern republican party so...
A death camp located in Poland isn't a Polish death camp?
cartoon_soldier
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Nobody is trying to rewrite History. But please, continue with your outrage.
Please also tell us about how outraged you are at Mitt Romney's lies and what is a historical historical rewriting campaign that he is running.
Arrowgigantic
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I've never heard of a single person think the death camps were run by Poland itself. Everyone knows they were run by the Nazis who had invaded Poland. Nobody is rewriting your damn history.
Exactly.
It also doesn't help that so many Polish soccer fans do the Nazi salute during matches. Howabout the Poles get outraged about the thousands of Polish soccer fans saluting a regime that murdered them by the hundreds of thousands?
Check out this tasty meal from this American McDonald's I went to once:
lol! Perfect.
cartoon_soldier
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It was helped that the current Polish government is extremely conservative, I am sure they prefer a Republican government in the US too.
As someone who lost about 80% of my family tree in Nazi death camps in Poland, fuck off with that faux outrage.
Sorry for the harsh language, but for the love of god, leave the Holocaust out of the horse race stupidity.
wat......... I thought for sure you were joking....right? You can't be serious.
RustyNails
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Hey the president said something true about my country, but phrased it differently so I demand his ouster and in his place put a two-bit loan shark whose entire party platform is founded upon distorting facts and has no vision for his country or my own
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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I don't understand the outrage. Take his statement in context. I find it much easier to excuse ignorance than if he had said it with malice. Get over it. It was a simple mistake. He has said many more dumb things than this. And there are positives--We are all more educated as to how sensitive the polish are over this issue.
Black Republican
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2 more days
Scott Walker survives or fails?
im gonna say survive by a small margin
dems might take the state senate though
Scott Walker survives or fails?
im gonna say survive by a small margin
dems might take the state senate though
cartoon_soldier
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I will throw my hat in with survives too, but not the 5-7 point margin polls have been indicating.
PPP:
I say Walker by 2-3 points Tuesday night.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
And sensitive for good reasons -- they have a very, very dark participatory past.
Btw, props for your moment of clarity and feeling the axis tilt toward Romney. I felt it too. We should both be scared shitless, you for what he'll do to the Republican brand, and me for what he'll do the Republican brand.
PhoenixDark
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Walker by 2-3, Romney wins Wisconsin in November due to a completely demoralized and bitter democrat party in the state
Should have waited for a November recall
Should have waited for a November recall
It's not the map, it's the lack of jobs and bad economic data all around.
We're now seeing a dead heat in IA, NV, and CO. The states that helped make the claim that Obama was more electable than Hillary in 2008, remember?
If those are up for grabs, then he'll need PA + OH and/or FL to win which is basically 2004 all over again (actually, given the new electoral map based on the Census, would that still have Barack fall short? I have to check).
Er, yeah. If this happens we have a tie...
That is assuming of course that Obama can take WI, which I think he still would, even if Walker is victorious. But you never know.
Walker by 6, Obama wins the state by 11.
That Marquette poll PPP is talking about had Walker by 7. So "closer than that" is still a relatively comfortable margin.
edit: Ok, I'm upping my prediction to Walker by 8. Leftists are trying to push a story that Walker had a child out of wedlock 30 years ago. If they are that desperate, Walker must be destroying Barrett in internal polling.
That Marquette poll PPP is talking about had Walker by 7. So "closer than that" is still a relatively comfortable margin.
edit: Ok, I'm upping my prediction to Walker by 8. Leftists are trying to push a story that Walker had a child out of wedlock 30 years ago. If they are that desperate, Walker must be destroying Barrett in internal polling.
cartoon_soldier
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If it's a tie, but Obama gets more popular votes...shit will hit the fan
2000 all over again...
An electoral tie would be my favorite thing ever
Why? The SCOTUS would probably have to step in, no? And we all know how that would probably end.
Dat 5-4 etc.
Because 2000 was (and remains) fucking hilarious.
Hilarious? Huh? More like depressing. It is what allowed Bush to become President. He's only the worst President of modern times and all.
I really don't see anything funny about that.
PhoenixDark
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If the EC ties, the House votes to decide who wins.
The Librarian
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He only pays attention to politics for entertainment. It's all a joke to him. Don't even bother.
You don't consider the 30's and 40's modern day?
Fuck
Par for the course for a Bill Clinton fanboy.
Jesus H. Christ... what a stupid rule.
TacticalFox88
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.....Whelp.
Eh...I don't think an EC tie is likely. Possible, but not likely. I can't see Obama lose NV, CO, and VA. I'm sure he's going to win at least one of them.
edit: In an event of an EC tie, wouldn't it be better for the person getting the most popular votes be declared the winner? The popular vote being the tie breaker makes sense, no?
edit: In an event of an EC tie, wouldn't it be better for the person getting the most popular votes be declared the winner? The popular vote being the tie breaker makes sense, no?
PhoenixDark
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A Romney map http://www.270towin.com/2012_election_predictions.php?mapid=mhX
If the Europe situation explodes, all bets are off. That being said, I don't think the country's demographics will allow a "big" Romney victory.
Nevada: polls are tightening, and it has one of the worst economies in the country already. Any national slump would be felt even harder there
Ohio: Another state where an economic downturn would have a big impact. And I will maintain Portman as VP would be effective. He'd literally just set up camp in the state from August to November
Virginia: The problem state for my map. Demographics lean heavily for Obama thanks to the urban areas. I'm curious how the gay marriage issue impacts the state.
Florida: I don't think Romney needs Rubio to win here. The voter purging plus elderly vote should do the trick
Colorado: Polls show Obama's 08 lead has vanished, and the state is becoming more conservative/evangelical
An Obama win map: http://www.270towin.com/2012_election_predictions.php?mapid=mia
If the Europe situation explodes, all bets are off. That being said, I don't think the country's demographics will allow a "big" Romney victory.
Nevada: polls are tightening, and it has one of the worst economies in the country already. Any national slump would be felt even harder there
Ohio: Another state where an economic downturn would have a big impact. And I will maintain Portman as VP would be effective. He'd literally just set up camp in the state from August to November
Virginia: The problem state for my map. Demographics lean heavily for Obama thanks to the urban areas. I'm curious how the gay marriage issue impacts the state.
Florida: I don't think Romney needs Rubio to win here. The voter purging plus elderly vote should do the trick
Colorado: Polls show Obama's 08 lead has vanished, and the state is becoming more conservative/evangelical
An Obama win map: http://www.270towin.com/2012_election_predictions.php?mapid=mia
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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That moment of clarity came from drinking 1/2 a bottle of 1800 tequila while reading the drudge report.
cartoon_soldier
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While I do believe that the end result was tragic, this shit was hilarious, I mean -
WE'RE FLORIDA, WE'RE GONNA PICK THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD
Too bad the term derp had not been invented yet in 2000.
Glorified G
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E3>>>>Actual important events
Aaron Strife
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I'm gonna say Barrett wins by 17 and the blue wave in Wisconsin makes Russ Feingold win his Senate seat retroactively.
SCOTUS declares Obamacare unconstitutional... And replaces it with single-payer!
June adds 500,000 jobs and unemployment drops so hard that Romney concedes the election ahead of time.
Obama shows up at Nintendo's E3 conference and announces Final Fantasy VII remake for Wii U.
SCOTUS declares Obamacare unconstitutional... And replaces it with single-payer!
June adds 500,000 jobs and unemployment drops so hard that Romney concedes the election ahead of time.
Obama shows up at Nintendo's E3 conference and announces Final Fantasy VII remake for Wii U.
cartoon_soldier
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And you wake up and its Wednesday Morning.
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
Banned
Oh god.
Obama's latest ad pretty much locks it up for him.
wow. Who is running this campaign?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAlnKHctMYs
Obama's latest ad pretty much locks it up for him.
wow. Who is running this campaign?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAlnKHctMYs
cartoon_soldier
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That is not an ad
Uh, what?
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