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[The Librarian]

NBC is calling Minnesota for Santorum.

Is that a winner-take-all for its 55 delegates?

 

[benjipwns]

What the hell is the point of this, then?

Missouri moved up along with everyone else, but when they tried to move back behind the March firewall to avoid being penalized it got blocked by the State Senate. So they left the primary on the ballot and just made it non-binding and moved the delegate awarding to a caucus.

NBC is calling Minnesota for Santorum.

Is that a winner-take-all for its 55 delegates?

It's up to the conventions.

 

[Dude Abides]

Did Romney's SPac go hard negative on Newt in these three states, driving people away from both?

 

[Black Republican]

Colorado going slow, only 7% in

 

[RustyNails]

Romney beating back Santorum in Colorado.

 

[Oblivion]

LINK



Republicans run on a platform of wasting taxpayers money which is why they are holding this primary.

What the fuck? That sounds so needlessly complex and convoluted that it makes perfect sense given who's putting this together.

 

[Officerrob]

11% of the vote in Colorado totals less than 1,000 votes?

 

[Mike M]

Romney beating back Santorum in Colorado.

As expected. Such a shame, Santorum pulling off a sweep tonight would have been some epic shit.

Oh well, maybe he'll be declared the winner a week later.

 

[Matt]

11% of the vote in Colorado totals less than 1,000 votes?

It's 11% of the precincts, not the vote. They precincts very in sizes.

 

[Chumly]

11% of the vote in Colorado totals less than 1,000 votes?

Seriously.... That can't be real.

It's 11% of the precincts, not the vote. They precincts very in sizes.

AH

 

[Invisible_Insane]

Hastily assembled primary thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=462332

 

[The Librarian]

Romney beating back Santorum in Colorado.

Where are you seeing that? What site are you looking at?

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Romney's going to be about as effective as the Black Knight from Monty Python & the Holy Grail by the time the general election rolls around.

"Oh what are you gonna do, bleed on me?"

 

[Officerrob]

Did Romney not even contest Minnesota? Seems weird considering he won there easily in 2008

 

[Black Republican]

wonder is MO is winner take all delegates

 

[benjipwns]

wonder is MO is winner take all delegates

It's whatever the State Convention decides.

Technically every single race tonight is non-binding. The straw poll results will not determine the delegate counts.

 

[Mike M]

It's whatever the State Convention decides.

Technically every single race tonight is non-binding. The straw poll results will not determine the delegate counts.

I knew about MO's binding caucus in March, but when does CO and MN decide forealsies?

 

[Averon]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/02/that_doesnt_make_sense.php?ref=fpblg

That Doesn’t Make Sense

The word coming from the Mitt campaign is that Missouri doesn’t really matter because there are no delegates there and they didn’t commit time or money. The problem, though, is that Santorum doesn’t really have any time or money to commit there either. And if you’re the frontrunner, the presumed nominee, you get clobbered in a swing state just because you didn’t aggressively campaign there? That’s a very, very low standard. Santorum is clearly leaning hard on evangelicals. And really this isn’t about Santorum. It’s about Romney. Absent crushing spending and a week or so to focus on a single state, Romney seems to have a really rough time. That’s bad, especially in the Midwest where a Republican candidate has to run strong. And especially when he’s faltering in national polls versus President Obama.

 

[jbug617]

On Huffington Post it looks like Santorum wins all 3.

 

[Aaron Strife]

man romney is sooo popular

 

[Black Republican]

On Huffington Post it looks like Santorum wins all 3.

didnt Colorado nominate ken buck for senate?

ii guess they have their odd share of loving the crazies

 

[benjipwns]

I knew about MO's binding caucus in March, but when does CO and MN decide forealsies?

It's like Iowa. The caucuses decide delegates to the local/state conventions which then picks the national delegates. And that decision has nothing to do with the straw poll results. You could have a precinct where it's Santorum 50%, Romney 30%, Paul 15%, Newt 5% in the poll and Newt could still wind up with all the delegates.

 

[Chumly]

On Huffington Post it looks like Santorum wins all 3.

Colorado I think will be impossible to tell since we only have low vote precincts coming in right now. Once we get some more votes it might be more telling.

 

[Averon]

How can Romney spin losing all three races if it comes to that, which is a very real possibility?

 

[RustyNails]

On Huffington Post it looks like Santorum wins all 3.

Huffington is reporting 6% whereas CNN is reporting 11%

 

[Miletius]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/02/that_doesnt_make_sense.php?ref=fpblg

That Doesn’t Make Sense

Romney's hope is to crush Obama in a mountain of negativity. I agree that this night speaks to the weakness of his character (and campaign). However, he has a clear strategy for the general that differs quite a bit from the vitriol of the primary season.

 

[Cloudy]

Umm how did Romney lose Colorado so badly?

edit: Oh it's just 6% reporting lol

 

[Matt]

Umm how did Romney lose Colorado so badly?

Very few votes are in yet, the standings right now mean little to nothing.

 

[Black Republican]

Santorum going hard at Obama on the Catholic controversy

 

[Chumly]

Man not only is Romney not winning Minnesota....he is in THIRD. Did not expect that.

 

[Invisible_Insane]

I feel like the "big money election" meme is being somewhat quashed by the successes of Santorum.

 

[Officerrob]

I feel like the "big money election" meme is being somewhat quashed by the successes of Santorum.

Didn't Romney and his Super-Pac not spend a cent in Missouri and Minnesota?

 

[Invisible_Insane]

Didn't Romney and his Super-Pac not spend a cent in Missouri and Minnesota?

No one would have thought to campaign against Santorum anyway, but my point is more that success is not necessarily predicated on spending lots of money.

 

[Matt]

CO is coming in fast now, with Santorum ahead (for now).

 

[Chumly]

No one would have thought to campaign against Santorum anyway, but my point is more that success is not necessarily predicated on spending lots of money.

But it can be highly correlated with the money. Romney basically bought Florida. I guarantee if he unloaded his money on those states he would be at least closer.

 

[makingmusic476]

I would love to see Santorum take the nominee.

It'd be fun watching him flounder against Obama in debates. I'm sure Santorum were mutter words like "socialist" and "muslim" a good bit.

 

[Officerrob]

No one would have thought to campaign against Santorum anyway, but my point is more that success is not necessarily predicated on spending lots of money.

I get what your saying, but Newt has been slammed (and harmed) twice now because of Mitt's money. Santorum has yet to be the brunt of it. Lets see if Santorum holds up against what Romney is about to unleash on him

 

[Black Republican]

Santorum Takes County Romney Won In '08 @ thinkprogress : Santorum wins Adams County outside Denver by 10 points. Romney won Adams by 53 points in 2008. (via @NKingofDC)

cnn with 26% precints, Santorum leads

Santorum 1,851 42% 0
Romney 1,375 31% 0
Gingrich 668 15% 0
Paul 556 12%

CO is coming in fast now, with Santorum ahead (for now).

will romney fire another person if he looses there?

 

[Invisible_Insane]

But it can be highly correlated with the money. Romney basically bought Florida. I guarantee if he unloaded his money on those states he would be at least closer.

Santorum was pretty thoroughly outspent in Iowa, though. I'm not saying money doesn't matter, just that it's not the exclusive determinant.

 

[Brinbe]

I get what your saying, but Newt has been slammed (and harmed) twice now because of Mitt's money. Santorum has yet to be the brunt of it. Lets see if Santorum holds up against what Romney is about to unleash on him

It won't work quite the same against Santorum. Only gonna work to piss off conservatives.

 

[Matt]

Santorum was pretty thoroughly outspent in Iowa, though. I'm not saying money doesn't matter, just that it's not the exclusive determinant.

Actually, we can say this based on the evidence so far: Unless Romney significantly outspends his opponents in a state, he looses it.

 

[Officerrob]

Santorum was pretty thoroughly outspent in Iowa, though. I'm not saying money doesn't matter, just that it's not the exclusive determinant.

Iowa is always the outlier because it is first and candidates can spend months there shaking hands and kissing babies. You can't do that in other states because there is no time, that's where money and television comes in

 

[RustyNails]

Guys keep the primary talk in the primary thread :\ its hard to keep track of threads

 

[Black Republican]

Colorado Having 'Technical Issues' @ ethanklapper : John King: Colorado GOP is having "technical issues.

bahhahahaha . Iowa part deux?

 

[Mike M]

bahhahahaha . Iowa part deux?

Cue conspiracy theorist accusations of vote tampering!

 

[cartoon_soldier]

The problem for Santorum is:

1. MO win means nothing for delegate count
2. MN votes don't decide delegates
3. I believe it is something similar to MN for CO

So, we have to wait till when to find the actual delegate distribution?

 

[OddSpoon]

Obama is sopping at the mouth.

 

[Bishman]

I just found this thread. Why is GAF splitting up all our PoliGaf threads? It is confusing! :/

 

[cartoon_soldier]

I just found this thread. Why is GAF splitting up all our PoliGaf threads? It is confusing! :/

Yea it is

 

[Ecotic]

Yeah splitting the threads totally sucks. I actually thought the splitting of the threads had killed off the poligaf threads through confusion. I kept looking at the off-topic and wondering where'd poligaf go?