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PoliGAF 2013 |OT1| Never mind, Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Which corporation do you trust for your news. How sad.
PhoenixDark
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Rubio's speech will be in Spanish btw. He's pretty good at giving speeches, as his RNC one showed. Can't say I've been impressed by him on the stump though. He hasn't done much of anything in the senate; I suppose in that sense he is the republican Obama. And while he's currently beating the drum on immigration I won't believe it until he actually votes for a bill.
zero shift
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I'm really pleased that Fox News has declined so much. It seems that the people are finally starting to realize the bullshit it spews. It truly is nothing but a propaganda station.
ClovingWestbrook
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TPM said:
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Black Mamba
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oh god, they're going to find out Hagel is the cause of Benghazi.
Obama resignation coming.
Obama resignation coming.
RustyNails
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Mitt Romney retroactively winning the election?
If they actually try and blame Benghazi on him I will straight up lose my shit.
Is this some veiled insinuation that Hagel's comments re:Israel are the result if him being in league with Iran or something? Seriously, WTF is this, someone help me out.
Black Mamba
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NRA being delegitimized since Sandy pretty hard.
Or finally a brave Senator is wanting to investigate the influence of Israel on the US political system!
It's interesting how political empires can collapse so suddenly.
Black Mamba
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What a waste of resources...
Trump does realize he's going to lose this badly right? So fucking dumb.
There was a conservative GAFer who really loved Rubio, but I forget who. He always mentioned how Rubio's backstory was so inspirational, and how well he spoke.
Damn...I can't remember who it was though.
ClovingWestbrook
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jamesinclair
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Real Americans have community mailboxes.
Odds are, someone in the subdivision is getting a package
PhoenixDark
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Cheebs perhaps? His background never made an impression on me.fixed
It's amazing how quickly the GOP has lined up behind him though. Hopefully Hillary runs because I could see Rubio beating a bad candidate like Cuomo.
The Librarian
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It'll be subtitled in Spanish?
No. He'll give/record two versions of the same speech. I think Democrats started the tradition during the Bush years and Republicans have followed it.
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The Autumn Wind
Excellent. Alienate the base right off the bat. Should be fun.
And suddenly, Scott Brown not running in the special election makes sense. Why represent constituents when you can make money spreading propaganda with no consequences instead? Can we make "DeMint" a verb?
Fenderputty
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John and Ken on local radio here in LA are crazy. At least they used to be. I had to listen to them in the carpool I was in coming home from LA. Not listened to their crap in years though. Anyway, they blamed almost everything on the illegals. They hate any idea that involves a path to citizenship and can't stand that the US doesn't have English as the official language. They used to even complain about cities having to print multiple forms as waste. Flat out insane.
I might actually have to listen in to their show and see how theyre responding to immigration reform and a repub giving a SOTU rebuttal in Spanish. I'm sure it will be salty.
el retorno
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They had a separate guy give a spanish speech with the same content last year if my memory serves me right it was. I don't think thats a big deal at all.
Edit: Here it is, its literally the same speech the daniels gave almost word for word. The language doesn't matter if it says crap the latino community doesn't support.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O11uJypfavM
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The Autumn Wind
It's not a big deal. To sane, rational people. But that's not who I'm referring to.
el retorno
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I was responding to PD's insinuation that by highlighting the fact that Rubio speaks spanish it will make a difference. (Though I hope he speaks better than our other Spanish Speaking president) If it the same speech as it will be in english then I don't think it'll gain traction. I'd be interested if they change it
I think also that the Spanish speech will only be on univision not that the Spanish speech will be the main speech.
The Librarian
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Didn't we all decide this was an incredibly stupid idea last year?
Synth_floyd
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Until the actual court papers are filed, he hasn't sued. I don't think he will actually sue him. And if he does he has no chance of winning. Another Trump publicity stunt.
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The Autumn Wind
The bubble is soundproof.
The Librarian
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I just checked. There are only three women cosponsoring that.
VagiLOL
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Avon Barksdale
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Old habits die hard.
Why would Scott Brown run again? He just got beat badly in November, and the Tea Party support that propelled him to victory in 2010 has fizzled. He's either done with politics or will wait for the appropriate cycle to run again. Might as well make some easy money at Fox while he's biding his time.
RustyNails
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Dick Morris on Piers Morgan Tonight right now.
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el retorno
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Piers is beating up on Dick Morris so much.... Its really quite sad.
RustyNails
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He's such a cartoon character. He simply refuses to answer any question with Nate Silver in it. I think he knows the days of punditry are over.
He'll prolly end up slithering down onto the blaze or breitbart or whatever Malkin's site is called
PhoenixDark
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I didn't insinuate anything, I merely stated he will be giving the response in Spanish, and it will be subtitled for English audiences. Steve Deace just mentioned he talked to some conservative grata roots operatives who aren't happy about it.
He'll get 35-40% of the Hispanic vote, which is enough to win under normal circumstances. The asterisk will be whether Hillary runs
Maddow did a segment a few weeks back suggesting that because the election is over, bills like this would attract far less attention, and thus far less backlash.
What is it with Republicans going Godwin over pretty much everything imagineable?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/...ation-of-for-profit-colleges-to-the-Holocaust
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/...ation-of-for-profit-colleges-to-the-Holocaust
TacticalFox88
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The fact that ignorance is now increasingly becoming a "legitimate" point of view is starting to slowly erode my faith in democracy and and my cynicsim more or less making me think the US should become more authoritarian to control peoples complete stupidity. Yeah, I know in practice it'll be abused to hell and back, but goddamn, I wanna get rid of all these people on Facebook, but I work with them and they provide useful intel to me outside of politics.
Here's my new solution to the gun debate.
You wanna own a Military Grade rifle, in masse? Pass the EXACT same background checks and training the Secret Service go through. I'm talking courses, safety, and all. Considering how long that takes, at minimum, of two years or so, only those who REAAAAAAAAALLLY want it will go through with it AND pass it.
Here's my new solution to the gun debate.
You wanna own a Military Grade rifle, in masse? Pass the EXACT same background checks and training the Secret Service go through. I'm talking courses, safety, and all. Considering how long that takes, at minimum, of two years or so, only those who REAAAAAAAAALLLY want it will go through with it AND pass it.
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I highly doubt that. He'll get the Cuban vote though.
RustyNails
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In PD's defence, I would expect to see that figure rise if:
- Rubio got the nomination
- GOP help pass immigration reform
- No republicans say anything stupid about latino immigrants that the DEMS can jump on
That's a big "if" though.
To be fair, he'll get a chunk of that "not sure" low information voter block.
PhoenixDark
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Exactly. He'll be raising his profile non-stop for the next three years
Particle Physicist
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He'll have to do more than that. I'm not sure you guys understand the Hispanic population in the US. Those are similar favorabilities that Romney had.
RustyNails
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Why do you assume only his rating will go up as he gets more exposure? His negatives will go up as well, just by virtue of GOP's rhetoric. They can't help themselves. 24% favorability among hispanics is a serious deficit to start from. He is nothing but a teaparty charlatan that can speak Spanish.
Exactly. Hispanics aren't a monolithic voting block that will automatically vote for a Spanish speaker. Besides, just wait and see how Rubio will get annihilated in primaries over his immigration backing. All this talk of him being a national candidate is moot.
PhoenixDark
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And? It's 2013; he won't be truly running until 2015. He'll be quite well known by the time he gets the nomination (if he does, of course). His nomination alone would garner a level of pride and interest within the Hispanic community; I'm not saying he'll win the Hispanic vote by default, but he will over-perform what non-Hispanic republicans have managed to do due to his race.
And if he runs against a "boring" candidate like Cuomo or O'Malley, all bets are off. I don't think he'll have any problem moderating his stances in a general election, as Romney showed last time.
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