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[KtSlime]

Without the social issues the base wouldn't support shilling for the rich.

I can't wait till we get most of the social issues out of the way, so we are no longer distracted from what the rich are doing to us and this country.

 

[thcsquad]

I always enjoyed Pearl Jam's cover of this. Chills down my spine.

I maintain the Roots have made the song their own. Seeing them do this live was one of the few activist music moments that actually had an effect on me.

 

[Jooney]

Dat minimum wage thread. I should have listened.

I maintain the Roots have made the song their own. Seeing them do this live was one of the few activist music moments that actually had an effect on me.

Listening now. Thanks.

 

[RDreamer]

I can't wait till we get most of the social issues out of the way, so we are no longer distracted from what the rich are doing to us and this country.

Am I the only one that kind of fears this, in a way? I feel like some of the economic ideas of the right are down right fucking dangerously stupid. If you take away the social aspects the right has, then I know a good amount of people that will fall for that crap hook, line, and sinker.

I suppose some might go the other way, but still...

 

[KtSlime]

Am I the only one that kind of fears this, in a way? I feel like some of the economic ideas of the right are down right fucking dangerously stupid. If you take away the social aspects the right has, then I know a good amount of people that will fall for that crap hook, line, and sinker.

I suppose some might go the other way, but still...

I guess that's why education is so important. Although, yeah, I could see it working the other way. It always amazes me whenever I see a person who sides with those who want to subjugate them.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Am I the only one that kind of fears this, in a way? I feel like some of the economic ideas of the right are down right fucking dangerously stupid. If you take away the social aspects the right has, then I know a good amount of people that will fall for that crap hook, line, and sinker.

I suppose some might go the other way, but still...

Isn't that just libertarianism or what sparked the reinvigoration of the movement (along with pot legalization)?

 

[speculawyer]

Am I the only one that kind of fears this, in a way? I feel like some of the economic ideas of the right are down right fucking dangerously stupid. If you take away the social aspects the right has, then I know a good amount of people that will fall for that crap hook, line, and sinker.

I suppose some might go the other way, but still...

Yeah I think you may be right. Or not.

Perhaps what could happen is that they would go for it for while . . . but as things get worse for the common man, it could flip violently in the other direction. The occupy movement was head-fake toward that.

I think the right are foolish if they push things too far. It will backfire eventually. Tunisia, Egypt . . . those were not popular uprisings merely against a tyranically ruler. They were economic riots of people unable to earn a decent living.

A successful economic system needs balance. And if you have too much money going to the top and just stagating there the system the system starts to fall apart. You need that middle class as both workers AND as consumers.

 

[Black Mamba]

Yeah I think you may be right. Or not.

Perhaps what could happen is that they would go for it for while . . . but as things get worse for the common man, it could flip violently in the other direction. The occupy movement was head-fake toward that.

I think the right are foolish if they push things too far. It will backfire eventually. Tunisia, Egypt . . . those were not popular uprisings merely against a tyranically ruler. They were economic riots of people unable to earn a decent living.

A successful economic system needs balance. And if you have too much money going to the top and just stagating there the system the system starts to fall apart. You need that middle class as both workers AND as consumers.

A lot of the wealthy realize this. They support tax reform and such to help the problem. Their long term viability requires it.

The problem is that some only look short term and others are forced into exploiting the system or be left behind everyone else.

I wonder if there is polling out there on millionaires on this.

 

[empty vessel]

True, but the black prisons have been a problem of both administrations, so I think the criticism is directly about Obama's attack on the inhumanity of waterboarding (versus legality of it and the targeted killings of combatants). I think your construction is too nuanced for that caliber of artist.

Probably. When I saw it, I actually thought it was a Democratic cartoonist championing Obama's aggressiveness in the war on terror.

And having 0 debt will not protect the country from economic turmoil. See the Panic of 1837.

This is perfect.

 

[sc0la]

Ice-Burn in CNN headline about Sanford runoff:

Wild S.C Race: Colbert's Sister Wins, Sanford Still on Trail

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

Sounds like big Democrats (Clintons, etc) are pushing a Democrat other than Ashley Judd into the Kentucky Senate election in 2014

Hope Judd doesn't actually go through with this (or if she does, Grimes easily beats her in a primary with little money spend), it's a waste of a legitimate opportunity to win a Senate seat (and one that would strike a pretty big blow, IMO)

 

[speculawyer]

A lot of the wealthy realize this. They support tax reform and such to help the problem. Their long term viability requires it.

The problem is that some only look short term and others are forced into exploiting the system or be left behind everyone else.

I wonder if there is polling out there on millionaires on this.

Nonscientific (and I'd like to see this studied) but have you noticed that a lot of people that earned their money (Bill Gates, Speilberg, Warren Buffet, Soros, etc.) don't mind paying higher taxes but those people that inherited their money (Koch brothers, Steve Forbes, Walton family, etc.) cry about higher taxes. Yeah, don't talk me about 'punishing work', you didn't work for that money.

 

[KtSlime]

Sounds like big Democrats (Clintons, etc) are pushing a Democrat other than Ashley Judd into the Kentucky Senate election in 2014

Hope Judd doesn't actually go through with this (or if she does, Grimes easily beats her in a primary with little money spend), it's a waste of a legitimate opportunity to win a Senate seat (and one that would strike a pretty big blow, IMO)

What if Judd would be the better senator?

I'm not sure if electing someone who "hails from a well-connected family influential in Kentucky Democratic politics" is really what Kentucky or the US needs.

 

[RoninChaos]

So what is PoliGAF's take on Real Time with Bill Maher? I feel that a lot of what he says would resonate with posters here, but his show only comes up as discussion here infrequently. Even worse it the glacially slow pace in which the Official Thread moves. Shame given how interesting (and entertaining) the show is.

The most recent episode was probably the most substantive this season - discussion on the three budget proposals (including a shout out to the CPC proposal), 10 year Iraq War anniversary, NYC limitation on big gulp sodas, hunger crisis and Rob Portman's gay marriage switch.

I dig his show. Guests are always interesting.

 

[speculawyer]

Sounds like big Democrats (Clintons, etc) are pushing a Democrat other than Ashley Judd into the Kentucky Senate election in 2014

Hope Judd doesn't actually go through with this (or if she does, Grimes easily beats her in a primary with little money spend), it's a waste of a legitimate opportunity to win a Senate seat (and one that would strike a pretty big blow, IMO)

Who ever is more likely to turf out the turtle gets my approval.

 

[Lucky Forward]

Michael Steele Calls Reince Priebus 'Numbnuts'

Steele told radio host Andrea Tantaros he could whip Priebus in a steel cage fight.

"Oh, no question. I'd clean his clock," Steele said in the interview. When Tantaros asked what moves he'd use, Steel answered: "Just one knock on the head. It’s done.”

Steele continued to hit Priebus in the interview, clipped by the Washington Examiner. "I was laughing at some of these numbnuts after the election talking about, 'Oh, well we need to do a 50-state strategy,'" Steele said. "Dude, where were you for 2009 and 2010? That’s exactly what we did."

That was an obvious shot at Priebus, who called for a 50-state strategy after GOP losses in the 2012 elections.

 

[Owzers]

restored confidence in the US....

I don't even know how to respond to this.

I watched that today...my mind twirled. This is the right as far as i'm concerned. Hannity tonight went on his usual tirade about wanting Obama to bomb Iran but not wanting to have to take responsibility for those words, so he just called Obama weak a bunch of times and mocked the sanctions, said Obama refuses to take the action that is needed in Iran.

 

[Aaron Strife]

What if Judd would be the better senator?

I'm not sure if electing someone who "hails from a well-connected family influential in Kentucky Democratic politics" is really what Kentucky or the US needs.

Judd probably would be a better senator, but I'm saying that as a Minnesotan liberal. Grimes would be far more likely to win. I like Judd a lot, but Grimes is a popular (won the highest # of votes of any statewide candidate in 2011) and well-known entity in Kentucky. And hell, a proxy campaign battle between the Clintons and McConnell is probably the only scenario under which they could beat him.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Who ever is more likely to turf out the turtle gets my approval.

Yep.

 

[Piecake]

Judd probably would be a better senator, but I'm saying that as a Minnesotan liberal. Grimes would be far more likely to win. I like Judd a lot, but Grimes is a popular (won the highest # of votes of any statewide candidate in 2011) and well-known entity in Kentucky. And hell, a proxy campaign battle between the Clintons and McConnell is probably the only scenario under which they could beat him.

Yup, Klobacher will cruise to victory for the foreseeable future. Franken will be in for another dog fight next election, even though he's been great. Celebrity politicians just turns some people off

 

[Aaron Strife]

Yup, Klobacher will cruise to victory for the foreseeable future. Franken will be in for another dog fight next election, even though he's been great. Celebrity politicians just turns some people off

I dunno, Franken's approval is pretty high. Not as high as Klobuchar's and he probably won't cruise like she does, but Minnesota's a fairly gosh-darn liberal state. Franken's also running in the same year as Dayton, who's popular himself. I think they'll both win like 55-45 or so.

Of course the media won't shut up about how "hurr this could be republicans' year in MN!" until the results come in, like always.

 

[PhoenixDark]

What if Judd would be the better senator?

I'm not sure if electing someone who "hails from a well-connected family influential in Kentucky Democratic politics" is really what Kentucky or the US needs.

I'd rather have a chance at winning than no chance. Judd needs to go back to Hollywood, she's a horrible candidate

 

[Piecake]

I dunno, Franken's approval is pretty high. Not as high as Klobuchar's and he probably won't cruise like she does, but Minnesota's a fairly gosh-darn liberal state. Franken's also running in the same year as Dayton, who's popular himself. I think they'll both win like 55-45 or so.

Of course the media won't shut up about how "hurr this could be republicans' year in MN!" until the results come in, like always.

Ive been quite surprised with Dayton. I like his honest, willing to change, adapt, and listen to feedback approach. Such a refreshing change from that scum, I didnt raise your taxes (while property taxes increased by 1 billion percent and stopped payment to schools) Pawlenty

 

[Hitokage]

Franken had a hard time because before he wasn't seen as a politician. Now he will be.

 

[KtSlime]

I'd rather have a chance at winning than no chance. Judd needs to go back to Hollywood, she's a horrible candidate

I'm not from Kentucky, so I really have no idea of what they think of either one. I'm sure there are people much more informed than me in this regard. I guess I'll just take your word. Just from an outsiders perspective, it seems like Judd genuinely cares, and can bring some positive change.

 

[Rocket Punch]

Facebook feed

 

[Oblivion]

Facebook feed

Amen.

Or Ameen, if you prefer.

 

[Black Mamba]

Facebook feed

met Patton once. Thought he was nice just to say hello. Now I like him more.

 

[Oblivion]

How has this not been posted yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ABM0_L_5vLw#!

Elizatbeth Warren is on a roll when it comes to being awesome.

 

[Black Mamba]

How has this not been posted yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ABM0_L_5vLw#!

Elizatbeth Warren is on a roll when it comes to being awesome.

There's a large thread on it.

 

[el retorno]

http://www.haaretz.com/news/obama-v...utine-security-questions-sir.premium-1.510497

This is too accurate.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

http://www.haaretz.com/news/obama-v...utine-security-questions-sir.premium-1.510497

This is too accurate.

I'm blocked....Care to post an excerpt or two?

 

[Diablos]

Facebook feed

+1 Oswalt.

Man, you can't even shop Bams to look like that kind of guy. Try as they might they can just never pull it off. The Hitler mustache was about as good as it ever got but honestly that works on damn near everyone.

 

[el retorno]

I'm blocked....Care to post an excerpt or two?

Damn it I must have gone over the article limit. But it was just a "joke" article about how the immigration control works in israel (It makes ours look colorblind), I've had to go through it.

 

[speculawyer]

Facebook feed

Tricky. He's probably trying to goad Rumsfeld into a stupid response because Rumsfeld won't get the reference. But Rumsfeld's people are probably savvy enough not to respond.

 

[Black Republican]

how is the right wing taking Obama going to Israel as president?

 

[Rocket Scientist]

how is the right wing taking Obama going to Israel as president?

Well they sure aren't talking about how many times Raygun or Bush sr. went or when Bush jr. went.

 

[codhand]

Facebook feed

boy that escalated quickly,

Spoiler

the war that is

 

[Sirpopopop]

I can't wait till we get most of the social issues out of the way, so we are no longer distracted from what the rich are doing to us and this country.

Then they will merely focus on the repeal of said issues.

See: What's about to happen to minority rights...

And no one even cares about the coming evisceration of the VRA. The work here was stealthily done, and no one is watching the gate when it comes crashing down. Let's talk about drones instead!

 

[Ken Masters]

 

[RoninChaos]

I did it again. I read a comment section.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/granderson-gop-racism/index.html?hpt=hp_t4

SOme guy named Lance, talking about being for smaller government but he works for Nasa. He then talks about how good people on welfare have it. When he's hit with facts he's like "Your puppet masters taught you this!"

SOMEONE HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THESE IDIOTS THINK BEING POOR IS AWESOME!? Please. Someone explain it to me.

 

[RoninChaos]

That cover gives me chills. I want to go home and hug my son.

 

[Hitokage]

I did it again. I read a comment section.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/granderson-gop-racism/index.html?hpt=hp_t4

SOme guy named Lance, talking about being for smaller government but he works for Nasa. He then talks about how good people on welfare have it. When he's hit with facts he's like "Your puppet masters taught you this!"

SOMEONE HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THESE IDIOTS THINK BEING POOR IS AWESOME!? Please. Someone explain it to me.

 

[zargle]

I thought you all might find this funny. From Grantland (one of their comedy sports sections).

President Barack Obama has once again named his picks for the NCAA Final Four: Louisville, Indiana, Florida, and Ohio State. Republican House Speaker and Ohio native John Boehner countered with his own Final Four picks: Michigan State, Kansas, Miami, and "Are you serious that he picked Ohio State? What do I do? Um, Pass."

 

[Oblivion]

Lucky Ducky is an inspiration to welfare queens everywhere.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

I thought you all might find this funny.

Onion or real?

 

[Synth_floyd]

I thought Rumsfeld was a lizard man.

 

[zargle]

Onion or real?

Grantland comedy column. Sorry, should have made clear.

 

[RustyNails]

Let Grimes run. Just the juxtaposition of a young, pretty candidate running against a hideous aging man turtle will be interesting and sway some votes. Besides, Judd's campaign is so gonna be DOA, especially with the hollywood baggage and Clintons supporting Grimes.

 

[soul creator]

Let Grimes run. Just the juxtaposition of a young, pretty candidate running against a hideous aging man turtle will be interesting and sway some votes. Besides, Judd's campaign is so gonna be DOA, especially with the hollywood baggage and Clintons supporting Grimes.

This post is more fun to read if I imagine Rick Grimes running for office.

"I support raising taxes on stuff...and thangs"