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PoliGAF 2013 |OT3| 1,000 Years of Darkness and Nuclear Fallout
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PhoenixDark
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Go ahead, pass it. I think all this leaving town talk is a means to sell the bill by leadership. And it still might not work/pass lmao
It would be the pinnacle of insanity. Whenever I think there can be no topping the stupidity, they suggest something like this.
bodyofanamerican
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All I know is the "leaving town" meme is catching on with Stein from HuffPo, Chait, and Josh Barro. I wonder if they're all getting it from Ponnuru or from another source.
Then again, as someone else mentions, if the Tea Party maniacs are the only ones that leave town, that DOES make Boehner's job easier. Hopefully that's how it goes.
It reminds of interviews with Norman Schwarzkopf about Desert Storm. He was like , "at every turn , we could count on Saddam doing the dumbest thing we could possibly think of.". It's really no different here, except Obama isn't allowed to just drop smart bombs on the tea party.
Black Mamba
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That's cuz they're immune to them.
NYCmetsfan
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I see Scalia is trolling hard today. Referred to African Americans as 'the blacks'
TacticalFox88
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You know what? I got to admire Scalia. Why? He doesn't hide how much of a racist douchebag he is. He's completely honest, unlike the vast majority of the GOP with their dog whistling horseshit.
ridethepiggy
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uh oh
PhoenixDark
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Not bad, makes sense. Of course they're waiting to see if Boehner falls on his ass.
Great clusterfuck. Even the GOP version is so water down compared to their prior demands. I can imagine what a tea partier might be feeling right now, pure ignorant rage. Also this doesn't even justify a shutdown and debt ceiling threat, this doesn't justify anything. Shit if you're gonna try to destroy America and the world economy, at least make sure you get "something out of this".
I hope Senate puts the screws in, and gets their version passed, because fuck the House.
I hope Senate puts the screws in, and gets their version passed, because fuck the House.
bodyofanamerican
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Eh, I wouldn't say that just yet. They're probably just avoiding spinning their wheels/waiting till whatever stupid bill makes it to the Senate so Reid can strip out the nonsense portions and send it back down.
But, if the House leaves town, that makes doing that impossible.
edit: basically exactly what PP said.
I really like how the Atlantic summed this up on Facebook just now
It's come to this: Tea Party conservatives are now threatening to blow up the economy unless Congress stops covering the cost of health insurance for its staffers.
NYCmetsfan
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GOP planning (stolen from Sam Stein):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8t5cs9cE4Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
PhoenixDark
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hmmm
they're going for Vitter language now.
j_k_redtail
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from Costa
LOL
LOL
jamesinclair
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$800bn infrastructure stimulus or no vote
I wish we had am infrastructure party holding the democrats hostage from the other side
I think this is the version of the Vitter amendment that only affects politicians but not their employees, which might not even be constitutional? lol geez
Maybe it is a gimmick to get the law back to the SCOTUS. They could rule that while the law now violates the constitution and must be struck down!
Black Mamba
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What if the boehner plan is only vitter to go with cr and dl raise. Omg holding the country hostage just for a staff paycut that affects only a few hundred people.
rocketknight
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I want this to happen so badly. Would be an elephant massacre in the polls.
SCF and Heritage Action, same as everybody else.
Seems like it makes him look worse to the part of the right he needs cover from.
Armoured Priest
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Problem with that logic is that if a small section of the law violates the Constitution, just that part is removed, like the Medicaid expnasion.
Not that the GOP is good at logic right now...
bodyofanamerican
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So they realize that the device tax cut would be a giveaway to that industry and hard to sell. We're really just down to Vitter. I can't fucking believe it, hahahaha.
jamesinclair
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Better to go to Costco and stock up.
I recommend buying imported products, because if the dollar declines, those go up.
So skip the eggs and milk, go for the dutch cheese, italian gelato and chinese mattress
TacticalFox88
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Surely Boehner knows he's fucked regardless, no? Since it's likely he's not getting his Speakership back he might as well bow out as "gracefully" as he can.
PhoenixDark
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He still doesn't have the votes
amazing. After all this, he still doesn't have 218, on October 15th.
amazing. After all this, he still doesn't have 218, on October 15th.
bodyofanamerican
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Yep, even if it's just the Vitter language, the suicide caucus won't fucking vote for it. Just do the clean version, you dicks.
Pretty much sums it up. Say what you will about Pelosi, she delivered the votes every fucking time. And she delivered on votes much tougher than, you know, funding the fucking government and paying our bills on time.
I'm afraid of what they'll replace Boehner with.
Thing is, they keep stripping things out. The ask is getting generally getting less and less, so of course he's going to lose votes. And there's a good chunk that won't vote for ANYTHING. There's a natural trajectory here where they pack less and less into it as we get closer, but if we get the "clean" Senate bill, it's going to be last minute, literally, at this point.
Black Mamba
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Obama did it. I can't believe it. He got the GOP to go against a tax cut for big businesses. Unbelievable. We've now divided by zero, folks.
NYCmetsfan
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smokeandmirrors
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isn't this exactly what his buddy mccain said last week?
"We fucked up, please help us stop ourselves"
TacticalFox88
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Dems GO FOR THE KILL. Do not give them a way out.
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