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PoliGAF 2014 |OT| Kay Hagan and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad News
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thezerofire
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please tell me that's not dubbed
WayneMorse
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Nope, it was Cruz's speech at a gala honoring Winston Churchill.
That is amazing.
Aaron Strife
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There are 272 electoral votes that are solidly in the Democrats' column thanks to Obama's party-building.
I mean it's not like Democrats could nominate anyone but the party hardly needs saving.
The Dems need to constantly assume they're going to lose all their seats.
They've given up seats they could have won because they pull resources off them to protect seats they're never going to lose.
If they don't, the GOP could easily just do the 50 state strategy the Dems had for 2008 and stage a huge comeback while Dems take things easy.
They've given up seats they could have won because they pull resources off them to protect seats they're never going to lose.
If they don't, the GOP could easily just do the 50 state strategy the Dems had for 2008 and stage a huge comeback while Dems take things easy.
speculawyer
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Ted Cruz is more weird than the fake politicians on House of Cards.
WayneMorse
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I'm p sure what's going to kill his campaign in 2016 is going to be people finding out all the crazy true believer stuff he believes in.
speculawyer
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I think Obama's greatest achievement will be the advancement of gay rights. He got rid of DADT and he endorsed gay marriage. That leadership has changed a lot of people that voted for him. Marriage equality has been sweeping across the country. And among young people, the GOP look like a bunch of old fuddy duddies that are on the wrong side of history.
Now 2014 won't be a great election for the Dems because which seats are up and Dems are too lazy to get to the polls on non-presidential election years. But for the long game, this is big. If the GOP wins big in 2014 and sends endless anti-abortion bills and repeal Obamacare bills to Obama, he'll just veto them all and the Dems will win big in 2016.
speculawyer
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His father is a walking liability. He's crazy creationist fundamentalist.
Cruz's campaign is already dead. He's just going to be a fundraiser I'm thinking. He has that "congressman" look to him that just doesn't translate to President. The Paul Ryan look. where nobody would buy seriousness.
NYCmetsfan
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Is anybody else disappointed in the new 538? The articles lack any context or real value. Its just a bunch of numbers which don't really say much.
I'm hoping VOX will be a bit better. The NYT Upshot looks good to I like a lot of the writers there.
As much as people like to hate on Obama for being rightwing on economic policy or at least framing it that way I think he did shift the conversation leftward. Republicans are now having to defending not raising the minimum wage, defend inequality, why gay people deserve to be discriminated against, why we should invade more countries, defend the Koch bros, why rich people should lower their taxes. We're not anymore talking about how to increase GDP by lowering rich peoples taxes, we're talking about how to lower college costs, how to raise wages, how to better job education, how to lower health care costs with government intervention.
What issue are republicans truly playing offence on?
I'm hoping VOX will be a bit better. The NYT Upshot looks good to I like a lot of the writers there.
As much as people like to hate on Obama for being rightwing on economic policy or at least framing it that way I think he did shift the conversation leftward. Republicans are now having to defending not raising the minimum wage, defend inequality, why gay people deserve to be discriminated against, why we should invade more countries, defend the Koch bros, why rich people should lower their taxes. We're not anymore talking about how to increase GDP by lowering rich peoples taxes, we're talking about how to lower college costs, how to raise wages, how to better job education, how to lower health care costs with government intervention.
What issue are republicans truly playing offence on?
Aaron Strife
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I still think the media reaction to Obama's endorsement of gay marriage was hilarious. You went from smug Fox News anchors/concern trolls proclaiming that the black and Hispanic communities would see it as a betrayal while it would shore up Romney's support among white people.
Then the next round of polls started coming in and the only effect it had was getting more people to support gay marriage.
I live for the cynicism in the mainstream media to be so thoroughly defeated. So as you can imagine election night in 2012 was particularly delicious.
zero shift
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I have one more question: Does anybody have the chart or data of the average hours worked per income quintile? All I can find is Heritage's and I don't trust it because its...Heritage's.
shadowsdarknes
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Legal Marijuana being proposed in NJ.
Seems as though Chris Christie is a major hurdle. But who knows. I'll try being optimistic.
Seems as though Chris Christie is a major hurdle. But who knows. I'll try being optimistic.
Cruz is the closest thing we'll ever have to a Glenn Beck running for president.
(for better or worse)
Avon Barksdale
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It's owned by ESPN. What else did you expect?
NYCmetsfan
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Grantland is not bad. But Nate really seems to believe number can solve everything. I pin this on Nate and his writing staff. I don't think ESPN is preventing him from writing better articles.
I just see a headline which promises a cool story and I see a simple graph which explains nothing.
Wonk blog just provided much more context which is the biggest thing missing from nate's site.
I normally wouldn't have thought losing the senate would be a big deal since you would think it would just be a continuation of the status quo since Jan. 2011. Except the problem with that is that Dirty Harry has kept Obama in line and prevented Obama from going too crazy giving into GOP demands. WIthout a Dem majority, Obama will be more free to caving to Republican demands just like Clinton did.
Man, it's amazing how well it syncs with his lips, good job interne...
Wat.
WayneMorse
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speculawyer
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Put the GOP on the hot seat.
Well this is good news. It's about time.
I can't wait to see how Rand Paul navigates this one, I'll bet anything he's against whatever the proposal is.
NYCmetsfan
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Sharing ownership. I like it.
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thepotatoman
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I don't think that's what most people are worried about at all. Phone metadata balk collection was the first leak which started the whole thing, but I'm pretty sure things like PRISM and X-Keyscore are far more alarming, where they are actually picking up the actual content. That's the type of thing which makes Jimmy Carter say he doesn't use email, not the phone metadata. I'm guessing the NSA knows that too since on the 60 minutes defense piece they pretended the metadata was the only thing they are doing.
I mean I'm glad this is happening. It's definitely a step forward and I guess you can't expect everything to get better overnight, but the article frames it as the endgame and that's not the case whatsoever.
An excellent fix for metadata; third parties retain it as they do now, but no mandate to hold it for longer than they do ordinarily. Unless one is a literal "no intelligence pls" utopian, this would go as far as needed on the metadata front. Not the whole hog of bulk collection as potatoman notes, but it's great news nonetheless.
theprodigy
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This is hardly a safe assumption, you realize this right.....
Yeah, they also need to acknowledge that more sinister shit is going on and work on that as well.
Aaron Strife
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Of course, but it would require a large swing in the GOP's direction.
You could have given Romney 5 extra points in every state and he'd still lose.
NYCmetsfan
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theprodigy
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Some states are more elastic than others, etc.
Then again, I suspect Virginia has moved quite deeply into the Democratic column at this point.
NYCmetsfan
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The funny thing is this is Bush's fault for expanding the National security agencies to much.
Aaron Strife
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Oh sure, it's not infallible by any means. But it's a pretty large hurdle for the GOP to overcome. Booming Hispanic populations contributed to New Mexico, Nevada, and Colorado turning light blue whereas a Democratic lean is more or less built into Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Iowa now. It no longer comes down to winning Ohio or Florida.
And yeah, Virginia was actually slightly (.03%) more Democratic than the nation as a whole in 2012. And the significance of McAuliffe, Herring and Northam all winning in 2013 can't be understated after the ass-whooping Creigh Deeds suffered in 2009.
Some fodder for PD:
What a disaster! Kay Hagan is sunk!
Black Mamba
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So this is the last week to sign up on the exchanges. It seems we crossed 5.5 million and will beat the 6 million revised target on the 31st.
Oh, and the SCOTUS will hear Hobby Lobby tomorrow.
Oh, and the SCOTUS will hear Hobby Lobby tomorrow.
cartoon_soldier
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I don't have high hopes for scotus siding with the government on that one.
I think they might surprise you on that one.
I want to know which party will ensure the US has an ambassador to Japan that will convince Square-Enix to move full steam ahead with Final Fantasy XV. PLEASE UNDERSTAND.
Pretty sure 'top lel' genuinely applies here. That is some legit humor.
NYCmetsfan
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Stopped by on the way to work. I saw a lot more women's groups than religious. Not that that says anything about the case
Will corporations gain the ability to adopt a religious identity to express themselves (which will go nicely with their newfound freedom of speech through SuperPACs) or will they remain unexposed to liabilities that incorporation itself shields them from, like discrimination?
I for one, can't wait for the sharia law corporations to run rampant over America.
I for one, can't wait for the sharia law corporations to run rampant over America.
I agree.
To do otherwise would open the most giant can of worms I have seen in a long time. The government would be put in the position to determine what is a "sincerely held religious belief" and what constitutes a "religion." I have had to make that determination as a judge, and it is not fun at all and a giant waste of time.
NYCmetsfan
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cartoon_soldier
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These guys gave corporations personhood...this would just be an extension of that judgement.
Dumb, but funny KY senate race thing:
But then we learn...
Scandalous!
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...d-mistakes-duke-blue-devils-kentucky-wildcats
But then we learn...
Scandalous!
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...d-mistakes-duke-blue-devils-kentucky-wildcats
PhoenixDark
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Wichita State over Kentucky? lol
cartoon_soldier
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When has logic ever worked with rabid sports fans...
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