That Christie surge.
Practically nipping at Trump's heels.
That Christie surge.
New CNN/WMUR NH poll (11/30 - 12/7)
Trump 32% (+6)
Rubio 14% (+5)
Christie 9% (+4)
Bush 8% (-1)
Kasich 7% (+1)
Cruz 6% (+1)
Carson 5% (-3)
Fiorina 5% (-11)
That Christie surge.
New CNN/WMUR NH poll (11/30 - 12/7)
Trump 32% (+6)
Rubio 14% (+5)
Christie 9% (+4)
Bush 8% (-1)
Kasich 7% (+1)
Cruz 6% (+1)
Carson 5% (-3)
Fiorina 5% (-11)
That Christie surge.
Cruz is really low here compared to the other NH polls. Lot more undecideds too.
New CNN/WMUR NH poll (11/30 - 12/7)
Trump 32% (+6)
Rubio 14% (+5)
Christie 9% (+4)
Bush 8% (-1)
Kasich 7% (+1)
Cruz 6% (+1)
Carson 5% (-3)
Fiorina 5% (-11)
That Christie surge.
Edit: Their last poll was from September if you were wondering about Fiorina.
If that were the result in NH, then Trump would get 20 delegates, Rubio would get 7, and there would be 3 unpledged (presumably to go to Rubio). It would immediately become a Trump-Rubio race.
EDIT: Cruz isn't that low compared to the other NH polls; he's high in Iowa, not NH.
Paul now no longer meets the polling threshold to make the next main debate.New CNN/WMUR NH poll (11/30 - 12/7)
Trump 32% (+6)
Rubio 14% (+5)
Christie 9% (+4)
Bush 8% (-1)
Kasich 7% (+1)
Cruz 6% (+1)
Carson 5% (-3)
Fiorina 5% (-11)
That Christie surge.
Edit: Their last poll was from September if you were wondering about Fiorina.
Sanders said he won't run as an independent.
Mike Bloomberg migh jump in, though. lol
Sanders would just destroy any chance for an easy liberal win and lose his committee placements in the senate and any allies and friends he's made as a member of the Democratic caucus for 20 years. There's a reason he's already ruled a third-party run out, he just has nothing to gain.
He also keeps threatening to run third party if he's not "treated fairly" by the GOP. He even brought it up today: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1153208Trump has also said he won't run as an independent.
Retromelon, are you still hoping that Ben pulls out of 4th place or do you want to go ahead and get your avatar bet over with?
Here are cruz's previous 7 poll numbers in NH prior to this one.
13, 9, 10, 11, 9, 8, 12
Every other poll was from Halloween and prior (the last one, 12, was 11/11).
So yeah, 6 does look out of place in that group. His average is just above 10 on HuffPo before this poll. His number looks like an outlier here.
Nice.New Morning Consult national poll (12/3-12/7):
Trump 41
Carson 12
Rubio 10
Cruz 7
Bush 5
Christie 3
Huckabee 3
Fiorina 2
Kasich 2
Paul 2
Graham 1
Trump has also said he won't run as an independent.
Aren't people saying Sanders is too old and whatnot? Might as well go all out, run as an independent and just retire if he doesn't win it. Work in his own community during his free time if he wants to keep helping people and pushing his policies. Then all that you just said about making allies and whatnot won't matter.
Paul now no longer meets the polling threshold to make the next main debate.
Get ready for a Paul vs Graham foreign policy debate!
Cruz is Cruz Party. Of course he's Tea Party, too. My only point is that Rubio is also Tea Party. He rode the Tea Party, described himself as Tea Party in 2010. He's not Establishment like Jeb!
The difference is the Establishment is fine with Rubio because he's willing to play ball with them to get what he wants (VP or Presidency) whereas Cruz makes everything about the cult of Cruz.
All OT topics on Trump active today:
It's a good thing cerium keeps making more. This is seriously getting ridiculous.
Every thread is literally Fuck Donald Trump [OT]I have no intention of passing up a good thread opportunity.
Trump has also said he won't run as an independent.
New Morning Consult national poll (12/3-12/7):
Trump 41
Carson 12
Rubio 10
Cruz 7
Bush 5
Christie 3
Huckabee 3
Fiorina 2
Kasich 2
Paul 2
Graham 1
It's a good thing cerium keeps making more. This is seriously getting ridiculous.
I'm afraid it will reach the point where enough people get sick of it and all the news get shunted in to a Donald Trump |OT| that no one reads. So hopefully people don't go overboard. Some of those threads probably didn't really need to be posted.
I was one of them. Now, I think he is completely serious. But I still think the Bible adoration is a guise.Back in June GAF was laughing at the thought of a Trump campaign as well as a Trump Presidency."Trump would be the least dangerous of all the R candidates" they said. "Trump does not believe in anything he is saying about Mexicans" they said. "Trump is a joke" they said.
How seven months changes things.
He's having an identity crisis. Changed his name and grew a beard as a coping mechanism.Ryan must be pretty pissed he's going to be left the highest profile leader in the smoldering ruins of the republican party.
What does this even mean? How can he do this in December?
Why? He's headed into the nomination. He probably won't have to.
This talk is just coded threats to keep them from going the brokered convention route.
Back in June GAF was laughing at the thought of a Trump campaign as well as a Trump Presidency."Trump would be the least dangerous of all the R candidates" they said. "Trump does not believe in anything he is saying about Mexicans" they said. "Trump is a joke" they said.
How seven months changes things.
Yup. If he had his way, he would be exactly what Trump, Cruz etc. are now - the bomb-thrower from the sidelines who gets to fundraise on saying ridiculous crap without any of his ideas actually having a chance at being implemented. Similar to how Rubio ran as a teabagger, now they're the "moderates" because they weren't extreme enough for the fringiest of the fringe of the party, and the true moderates are gone or stay silent for fear of retribution at the ballot box.Ryan must be pretty pissed he's going to be left the highest profile leader in the smoldering ruins of the republican party.
Alright, what the hay. I'll join in. I have no illusions that I'll make any money in this, but I'll give it a go for fun.Trump Yes shares for the nomination and for NH are both pretty cheap right now. There's also a market for whether he'll average 29% or higher in RCP at midnight Dec 31. I don't like to mess with the RCP poll markets because they're entirely contingent on when RCP drops older polls out of their moving average, and they don't have any set policies for when they'll do this. But if you think he's likely to average 29+ over the next 3 weeks, go for it.
The one downside is that the prices of his Yes shares have been stuck in the same general ballpark for a month in spite of the polling. People are still in disbelief over there. So market timing hasn't really worked. But if you really think he's going to win this thing, or New Hampshire, now's the time to go long.
There's also a market for whether or not Trump will win a single primary. I'm all in on that one.
There needs to be a Trump/Star Wars: The Force Awakens crossover story so it can dominate the OT forum.
Trump seems to be arguing that if the GOP abuses him he'll run as an independent and take their votes. I don't completely buy that, because:
1 - Trump's coded threats are unreliable. A week ago he told us he wouldn't show up to the CNN debate unless they paid $5 million to someone? They called his bluff. And he'll be at the debate on the 15th.
2 - Voters' threats are unreliable. Remember Hillary's PUMA faction in 2008 - "we'll vote for McCain over Obama?" They fell in line eventually.
Trump is like that final boss that no matter what you do to attack him it makes no dent in his hp. If you cast magic attacks on him, it only heals him.New Morning Consult national poll (12/3-12/7):
Trump 41
Carson 12
Rubio 10
Cruz 7
Bush 5
Christie 3
Huckabee 3
Fiorina 2
Kasich 2
Paul 2
Graham 1
Trump is like that final boss that no matter what you do to attack him it makes no dent in his hp. If you cast magic attacks on him, it only heals him.