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[T'Zariah]

B-Dubs is probably grinning like a kid in a candy store.

:lol

 

[RustyNails]

Trump's hubris should be a GOP candidate all on its own.

 

[sc0la]

TRUMP 2016

Let's draft Impenetrable Wall for VP.

 

[benjipwns]

oh god, who would Trump even pick for VP

and who would dare accept?

 

[Macho Madness]

Trump doesn't need a VP. VPs are for the weak.

 

[ivysaur12]

oh god, who would Trump even pick for VP

and who would dare accept?

OMAROSA OBVIOUSLY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar_bd79Cbh0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFzmQfHFl48

 

[benjipwns]

OMAROSA OBVIOUSLY

She did murder Michael Clarke Duncan...

 

[speculawyer]

oh god, who would Trump even pick for VP

and who would dare accept?

Oh, he has already said who he would like as his VP . . .

 

[StopMakingSense]

TRUMP 2016

CHRIST

 

[speculawyer]

Why do people make this a thing? It shouldn't matter. And it comes off as horribly elitist.

Besides, one could flip it around and say that all the degrees in the Wisconsin Democratic Party didn't save them from getting their ass handed to them. Thrice.

Don't make it personal. Better instead to focus on his performance.

I didn't say campaign on it. It is just kinda weird. I think he'll sink himself eventually. He's just too goofy.

 

[benjipwns]

Oh, he has already said who he would like as his VP . . .

From the related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw_VqV4kdX0

 

[Jooney]

Celebrity Apprentice: Veep Edition would be amazing.

 

[benjipwns]

Ugh, he'd just pick Piers Morgan or Joan Rivers.

 

[benjipwns]

Though maybe Trace Adkins, and we could have him enter rooms/the Senate to "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk."

Or better yet, replace the national anthem with it.

 

[Ecotic]

TRUMP 2016

#AllMexico. The killing in San Francisco shows Mexico has once again shed American blood on former Mexican soil. This insult to American honor should not stand.

 

[Mike M]

I can't envision a first debate featuring Trump where the other participants don't dogpile the shit out of him. Even the fringe nut candidates have to recognize he's a liability.

 

[Ecotic]

I can't envision a first debate featuring Trump where the other participants don't dogpile the shit out of him. Even the fringe nut candidates have to recognize he's a liability.

Prisoner's dilemma. Oh sure, it'd be great for the field if everyone dogpiled him, but it'd really suck to be the first guy to do it, catch a nasty zinger, and then have everyone else chicken out. Trump later launches a multimillion dollar scorched earth campaign to call you a loser so that no one ever tries that again.

 

[benjipwns]

So, I wondered if there was a potential Democratic candidate in the current or near future who could run on essentially Ross Perot's platform.

Pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-religion, pro-Obamacare, pro-tough-on-crime, pro-gun-control, pro-higher taxes, anti-immigration, anti-free trade, pro-intervention, pro-military cuts, pro-green energy/environmentalism, pro-campaign finance limitations, anti-drugs, anti-vouchers.

I don't particularly care for OnTheIssues but it generally lands in a decent area based on the responses.

Andrew Cuomo came out closest at 60%.

Al Franken at 55%, Mark Warner at 55% (though 70% on social issues) and Steve Beshear at 55% (75% on social issues).

Worst match among everyone was Sean Parnell at 8%. Rick Snyder scored a 0% on economic issues lol

Also,

Bar graphs, how do they work?

 

[B-Dubs]

B-Dubs is probably grinning like a kid in a candy store.

:lol

You have no idea. I wish I still had that part-time gig doing comedy news summaries, I could have killed it with this material. Too bad the site went under.

Ugh, he'd just pick Piers Morgan or Joan Rivers.

TRUMP/PIERS would be like the douche-iest ticket of all goddamn time, I LOVE IT!

DO IT TRUMP! DO IT!

I can't envision a first debate featuring Trump where the other participants don't dogpile the shit out of him. Even the fringe nut candidates have to recognize he's a liability.

It would just embolden him to the base and would play into whatever narrative he's trying to spin. Besides, how do you dogpile on him when you have no goddamned idea what he's going to say? His own lack of planning is his greatest protection in the debates.

So, I wondered if there was a potential Democratic candidate in the current or near future who could run on essentially Ross Perot's platform.

Pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-religion, pro-Obamacare, pro-tough-on-crime, pro-gun-control, pro-higher taxes, anti-immigration, anti-free trade, pro-intervention, pro-military cuts, pro-green energy/environmentalism, pro-campaign finance limitations, anti-drugs, anti-vouchers.

I don't particularly care for OnTheIssues but it generally lands in a decent area based on the responses.

Andrew Cuomo came out closest at 60%.

Al Franken at 55%, Mark Warner at 55% (though 70% on social issues) and Steve Beshear at 55% (75% on social issues).

Worst match among everyone was Sean Parnell at 8%. Rick Snyder scored a 0% on economic issues lol

Also,

Bar graphs, how do they work?

After his "education reform" in New York he'd be dead in the water during the primaries.

Is that a FOX News bar graph? Goddamn.

 

[pigeon]

TRUMP 2016

I really need to donate some money to his campaign.

 

[eBay Huckster]

TRUMP/PIERS would be like the douche-iest ticket of all goddamn time, I LOVE IT!

it's also constitutionally impossible

 

[B-Dubs]

it's also constitutionally impossible

That's why it needs to happen! It's funny on more than one level.

 

[eBay Huckster]

That's why it needs to happen! It's funny on more than one level.

now THAT'S a reason I can get behind!

 

[speculawyer]

Andrew Cuomo is a douche.

 

[benjipwns]

it's also constitutionally impossible

Nah, it just means Piers can't be elected, he can still be on the ticket and campaign.

 

[Jackson50]

TRUMP 2016

Oh my god. My liberal PC sensibilities cannot withstand the unassailable truth of his statements. Please stop quoting him.

Prisoner's dilemma. Oh sure, it'd be great for the field if everyone dogpiled him, but it'd really suck to be the first guy to do it, catch a nasty zinger, and then have everyone else chicken out. Trump later launches a multimillion dollar scorched earth campaign to call you a loser so that no one ever tries that again.

I think it's more like the stag hunt. You want everyone to cooperatively act whereas the efficient outcome in the PD is inaction.

I'm just disappointed. Every election brings in a crazier PM in Israel and even more right wing legislature. We went from Ehud Barak (who was somewhat ok) to a streak of right wingers: The Butcher of Beirut, Ehud Olmert to Netanyahu. If the trend continues, we'll end up with even more crazy people than Netanyahu as the PMs of Israel.

It's not going to end. I believe Obama was best positioned to salvage the peace talks. I know that Bibi's government and some Palestinian factions do not want peace. But surely there is some political tricks that can be used? Funding? Leveraging regional support? Championing King Abdullah Peace Initiative? The administration just doesn't want to broach the subject because it plays out bad politically. And while we talk, more Palestinians are getting kicked out of their homes to build settler colonies. It never ends.

I don't think Obama's afraid simply that it will look bad politically. I think he's aware that most of the political establishment would revolt against any action that would apply pressure to Israel. Good leaders have to make unpopular choices. But if there's no expectation of support, it would be a fool's errand. Lamentably, I don't see a realistic path for progress at the moment.

 

[Avon Barksdale]

Here's a clip I found about the 1988 South Carolina Republican primary.

https://youtu.be/PfO5uko0i8Q?t=5m21s

 

[Black Mamba]

I think it's more like the stag hunt. You want everyone to cooperatively act whereas the efficient outcome in the PD is inaction.

Sorry to be a stickler, but "efficient outcome" is completely the wrong term here.

 

[benjipwns]

Here's a clip I found about the 1988 South Carolina Republican primary.

https://youtu.be/PfO5uko0i8Q?t=5m21s

The person holding up the homemade sign made out of a Busch beer box is great.

The following segment is about a Dukakis vs. Gephardt battle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs9__30g_Y0

EDIT: Unemployment is down to 5.7%. Lowest in nine years! REAGAN BOOM!

 

[Jackson50]

Sorry to be a stickler, but "efficient outcome" is completely the wrong term here.

Payoff? It's late so I could have completely fudged it.

 

[Farmboy]

Iowa, NH, and SC are for killing off the campaigns that haven't built a functioning campaign organization.

But winning them can keep such a campaign afloat for a bit longer, Huckabee and Santorum are two great examples actually.

March 1st should handle those this time around.

Agree completely. The calendar certainly has an effect still. Rubio especially could be in a far better position if the order was different.

By the way, I'm diablosing a bit about Trump making Bush look good to independents. Assure me Bush can't defeat Hillary, PoliGaf.

 

[benjipwns]

Mickey Kaus seems to also believe that Trump is being pushed secretly by Jeb! allies to make the other candidates chase Trump and leave Jeb! as the "only choice" in the end.

 

[RustyNails]

Mickey Kaus seems to also believe that Trump is being pushed secretly by Jeb! allies to make the other candidates chase Trump and leave Jeb! as the "only choice" in the end.

Only if Jeb! likes to stay losing. Trump's antics will force him to spell out his moderate take on immigration.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Here's a clip I found about the 1988 South Carolina Republican primary.

https://youtu.be/PfO5uko0i8Q?t=5m21s

Lol nothing changes

 

[NYCmetsfan]

The problem is, however, that their leaders are far smarter, more cunning, and better negotiators than ours.

Yeah... No
www.youtube.com/watch?v=svkkhK6-f_k

 

[Plinko]

Mickey Kaus seems to also believe that Trump is being pushed secretly by Jeb! allies to make the other candidates chase Trump and leave Jeb! as the "only choice" in the end.

Trump's ego wouldn't let him destroy business relationships over it, which is clearly happening.

 

[Y2Kev]

I would vote for Omarosa manigault-stallworth, a fine connoisseur of waters, before i would vote for Bernie sanders. Electability matters and who would be more than Omarosa manigault-stallworth, who took practically a building caving in on her head and still remained a hero?

 

[Retromelon]

Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Donald Trump, Ben Carson and six others would be in the first Republican presidential debate next month, while two governors, a U.S. senator and the 2012 Iowa Republican caucus winner would be out, according to a survey by NBC News’ political unit.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article26642914.html

At the moment, according to NBC’s calculations, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, former business executive Carly Fiorina, 2012 Iowa winner Rick Santorum and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., would not qualify for the main event.

 

[Poodlestrike]

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article26642914.html

I can feel it.

Trump's going to go the distance.

This is his time.

Spoiler

To get crushed in the general.

 

[Aaron Strife]

I had a dream last night where I put up a big predictions list for 2016.

That's right I had a dream about PoliGAF.

From what I remember it wasn't even particularly outrageous, I was quite lucid when making the predictions.

Weird.

 

[NeoXChaos]

I had a dream last night where I put up a big predictions list for 2016.

That's right I had a dream about PoliGAF.

From what I remember it wasn't even particularly outrageous, I was quite lucid when making the predictions.

Weird.

If possible can you list them?

 

[NeoXChaos]

John Roberts, liberal favorite?
According to a new Morning Consult poll out Tuesday, 51 percent of self-identified Democratic voters and 57 percent of self-identified liberals approve of the Supreme Court justice’s job performance. Just 19 percent of Democratic voters and 20 percent of liberals expressed disapproval with Roberts.The survey shows that half of self-described Republicans and 55 percent of self-identified conservatives disapprove of the chief justice’s work. His approval numbers among Republicans and conservatives: 29 percent and 23 percent, respectively.

haha

 

[Aaron Strife]

If possible can you list them?

Hillary will probably win by a margin between Obama's 08/12 performances. FL could flip to the Republicans, NC could flip to the Democrats. I didn't really get into much of how specific swing states would go.

GOP nominee will be Bush, Walker is too stupid, Rubio is too green and Paul is a non-entity. The tickets will be Clinton-Kaine and Bush-Kasich. Bush-Kasich will be lauded by the press as a smart move to win both Ohio and Florida whereas political analysts/nerds will know that Clinton shoring up Virginia will be more important, and furthermore Clinton might win by such a large margin that any perceived home state advantage for the GOP ticket won't save those states.

Senate-wise: Democrats pick up WI/IL easily and gain back the Senate. I don't remember the exact calculus of this (other than those two states mentioned) but I think it was like 5-6 seats? House I dismissed as a lost cause anyway but Democrats will pick up like 10-15 seats thanks to low-hanging fruit from the 2014 elections (fluke GOP wins like ME-2, IA-3 and NV-4).

Didn't say anything about gubernatorial races because in the dream I couldn't remember which ones were on the ballot.

Anyway quote this in a year and four months

 

[Plinko]

I still think Carson (if he makes it through the debates without sounding like a complete imbecile) is a viable choice for VP on the GOP side. He has high approval ratings among the general public and is a minority, which they may (foolishly) think could bring in minority votes.

Of course, the huge catch is getting through the primary without putting his foot in his mouth, which I'll believe when I see.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Carson is not qualified to be president.

 

[Coriolanus]

Carson is not qualified to be president.

Do we really need to have a debate on what makes a candidate qualified to be prez again?

I mean, did we even come to a for sure kinda sorta consensus on what kinda qualifications a prez should have the last time this happened?

 

[NeoXChaos]

I still think Carson (if he makes it through the debates without sounding like a complete imbecile) is a viable choice for VP on the GOP side. He has high approval ratings among the general public and is a minority, which they may (foolishly) think could bring in minority votes.

Of course, the huge catch is getting through the primary without putting his foot in his mouth, which I'll believe when I see.

There are way better minority candidates for VP and Carson is not want of them. I expect Sandoval to be apart of a final 3 if Bush becomes the nominee.

 

[Plinko]

Carson is not qualified to be president.

I think it's clear that the GOP doesn't really have a huge list of "qualifications for president" based on 2001-2008.

 

[NeoXChaos]

Why is socialist so down?

 

[Plinko]

Why is socialist so down?

Dear Bernie Sanders' supporters:

This is why he is unelectable.