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HylianTom

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Put me down for Trump. He is the embodiment of the current Republican party - while nominating Rubio would be more prudent, do you really think the Republicans so widely in support of the classiest, most luxurious wall will vote for "Amnesty Rubio"?

I think Rubio could do it. I wavered on this before finally deciding to stick with Trump.

But for Rubio to win, this is key: the field around Trump and Rubio would have to clear in time so as to not dilute the antiTrump vote. It'd have to be pretty close to a one-vs-one competition.

And I'm not feeling very confident that the field is going to clear early enough.
 

Hopfrog

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tell me who you think will ultimately win the Republican Nomination next year?

My luxurious, classy heart says Trump, but my brain says Rubio. Just think the establishment will move heaven and earth to prevent a Trump nomination, and Rubio seems most likely with Bush fading.
 

Sianos

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I think Rubio could do it. I wavered on this before finally deciding to stick with Trump.

But for Rubio to win, this is key: the field around Trump and Rubio would have to clear in time so as to not dilute the antiTrump vote. It'd have to be pretty close to a one-vs-one competition.

And I'm not feeling very confident that the field is going to clear early enough.
Yeah, this is true. I can't see the field clearing enough with all of the super PAC money in play.

Do I get partial credit if Trump decides to run third party in the event the establishment illicitly pushes him out?
 

HylianTom

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I do like Rubio's strategy of just.. hiding.

He reminds me of the floaters on that TV show Big Brother - people living in the house who don't really do anything throughout the season and then somehow, despite no real effort or merit, find themselves in the final 4 or 2 at the end. He's going to be try to be an inconspicuous potted plant in the corner for as long as possible.
 

East Lake

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And the big picture stuff is what spooked them out of raising it last month. And we're not really getting much better news this month.
I don't have the graph on me but I think the majority of the market think it happens within about 6 months. Big picture is still likely the same despite this months report, which is don't raise until you need to (probably when commodity prices stabilize).
 
I think you're overselling Jindal by comparing him to the Titanic.
If you think by using that image I mean to say his campaign is a seismic tragedy, you're wrong. It was a funny way to portray a quixotic effort, is all it was.
I prefer to use hyliantom's old avatar in every one of these i do
Rip speculawyer
If you're a Bernie supporter the correct answer is Hilary.
I will never be tired of these jokes
Is Spec gone for good?

Also that boat isn't luxurious or classy enough for Trump.
That boat is the sole residence of I and Aaron Strife, for reasons that should be obvious
 
Is Spec gone for good?

Also that boat isn't luxurious or classy enough for Trump.

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Jeb! hates pool safety laws, says they restrict our liberty:

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If "fencing around a pool" is code for "War on Terror", then he's on to something... Otherwise.
 

User1608

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Jeb is probably the biggest disappointment and failure for someone I once predicted would be nominee in the last 8 years. Jeez.
 

NeoXChaos

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1. "Guns don't kill people. People kill people."
This is a fantastic argument for those who can't tell the difference between one death and a dozen. Absolutely, a murderer can often kill one person or two with a knife before being stopped. But to really rack up those mind-blowing death counts – to make sure that many lives are destroyed and families ruined in the space of five or 10 minutes – you need a gun. If all you care about is apportioning blame and declaring that someone does or does not have murderous intent, then by all means, claim a knife and a gun are equivalent weapons. For those of us who are more worried about preventing unnecessary deaths than merely acknowledging the hate that resides in some people's hearts, however, the sheer amount of damage a gun can do is reason to limit who can get their hands on one.

2. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
If you prefer pithy sayings to hard evidence, I can see why this would be convincing. But if you look at the real world, you'll find that far from being our only hope, good guys with guns are barely any help at all. No mass shootings in the past 30 years have been stopped by an armed civilian; in 1982, an armed civilian successfully killed a shooter, but it was only after he committed his crime.

It's not that there aren't enough guns, either. There are as many guns as people in this country, and fully a third of people are armed. Even when shootings happen in gun-happy places, where armed people are sure to be nearby, this vigilante scenario simply doesn't work. That's because pulling a gun out and shooting back in the chaos of a mass shooting just makes things worse, as was discovered when a would-be hero at the 2011 shooting of Gabby Giffords very nearly shot the wrong man. (The actual shooter was tackled by an elderly man.)


3. "But, mental health!"
Opponents of gun control love bringing up the problem of inadequate mental health care after a shooting. This is strictly for deflection purposes, as there is no indication that Republicans will ever work on meaningful reform for our mental health systems – which, it's true are woefully inadequate. It's an issue that only matters to them in the immediate aftermath of a shooting – then it's forgotten, until there's another shooting. Rinse, repeat.

Also, the "mental health" gambit, in this context, is always vague. What exactly is the plan? Round up everyone with a mental health issue and put them under lock and key? That amounts to 1 in 5 Americans, the vast majority of whom have no violent tendencies. Will we have some kind of extensive mental health registry? A lot of Americans who struggle with mental health are undiagnosed, though, and putting them on a government list that restricts their rights is not a great inducement to get a diagnosis. There are a lot of shooters in this country, so we have some pretty good data on mass shooters. And that data shows there's no reliable way to tell who is going to go off like this, and only 23 percent of shooters have a diagnosis. Even if all of those individuals got gold-star treatment, the system would only stop a few shooters.

4. "Second Amendment, baby."
Here's a good time to remind everyone that the Second Amendment was written by slaveholders before we had electricity, much less the kind of weaponry that would-be murderers can buy today. But sure, if you think it's that precious, we can compromise: If you love the Second Amendment that much, feel free to live in a powdered wig and shit in a chamberpot while trying to survive off what you can kill with an 18th century musket. In exchange, let those of us living in this century pass some laws so we can feel safe going to class, or the movies, or anywhere without worrying that some maladjusted man will try to get his revenge by raining death on random strangers.

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Ah, blame libs and the media for twisting words. Conservatives have traditionally lapped this up like salt to a deer. Well played, jebe.
I'm going all in on Ben Carson. Final choice!
I approve of your avatar change
I'm choosing no one because I don't care.
I already put you in my pic though. And how are you going to post in poligaf and say you don't care
 

FiggyCal

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I am confident that Hillary will destroy Jeb in a debate. This guy is so rusty.

Yeah. I literally have zero faith in him. I thought all he had to do was outlast everyone else, but i don't think he can brush away all these gaffes.

I think Rubio, Trump, Carson and Cruz are much more likely to get the nomination.
 
The bit you quoted is actually a very intelligent response. The mental health solution would be very difficult to implement, and you can't institutionalize everybody who shows warning signs.
It's funny because even though both are dumb things to say, Trump phrased it as "falling through the cracks". Someone will always fall through the cracks and if Jeb worded it like that, his campaign wouldn't be a hot mess right now.
 
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