He is giving me too many options for the next debate thread. I might need to rethink the format.
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He is giving me too many options for the next debate thread. I might need to rethink the format.
I admit I expected male prostitute, this is a refreshing change of pace.
Yes, why are we still printing money, Ben?
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thepotatoman
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Fox News is trying to defect it by saying democrats are in just as much disarray because many democrats are not getting behind Hillary thanks to that email scandal.
Coriolanus
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Wasn't that mostly due to rethoric over terrible obamacare implementation following right after?
Aaron Strife
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You're next, workout boy.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Massachusetts Governor Romney would be a fine Speaker. 2012 Romney... Not so much.
Joe Biden already ended him nationally, remember?
I don't think I can consume any more popcorn than I already have.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Wow Chris Matthews is really going all-in on the GOP is collapsing narrative (drawing parallels between this, the fractured party, and the presidential polls). I'm ... inclined to believe him. This is bigtime.
RustyNails
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If we're throwing random names for the speakership, I'll throw in Jesse Ventura.
Well then, crack open a few beers, break out the old confederate marching powder, start mainlining the good stuff, or whatever else it is you do after you're out of popcorn.
RustyNails
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I mean, just contrast this to the democratic party. Obama is the king, Pelosi is the queen, Hillary is the crown-princess and everything is alright in the kingdom. It is just a nice, stable, functioning party.
Republican case can be succintly defined as nuts taking over the nuthouse. The Jester is the King, and there is nothing else.
Speaker Trump
That has been SOP for much of Obama's political career.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I guess I'm not seeing the "The entire GOP is falling apart!!!" scenario.
1. The guy was liked.
2. He made a comment that basically revealed the entire plan for a committee that cost taxpayers millions of dollars was solely to hurt HRC's chances in an election. He basically said the whole Benghazi thing wasn't about dead soldiers, it was a petty political attack.
3. Behind the scenes, they forced him out.
That's it. I don't see how this is huge news or a sign that republicans are crumbling.
They'll replace him with someone else, every single one of them will get behind him, and this will be forgotten.
1. The guy was liked.
2. He made a comment that basically revealed the entire plan for a committee that cost taxpayers millions of dollars was solely to hurt HRC's chances in an election. He basically said the whole Benghazi thing wasn't about dead soldiers, it was a petty political attack.
3. Behind the scenes, they forced him out.
That's it. I don't see how this is huge news or a sign that republicans are crumbling.
They'll replace him with someone else, every single one of them will get behind him, and this will be forgotten.
What does the rest of the year look like?
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thepotatoman
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No kidding. There's a chance they'll be able to hold the ship together just long enough to make it to 2017 by forcing Boehner to stick around, but if Hillary wins, I don't see any way for the republicans to hold themselves together.
Officerrob
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Of course Trump is taking credit for McCarthy dropping out
It sounds like he wasn't forced out though, everyone thought he'd go through. From the sound of it the tea party guys refused to bend, even a little, and killed his coronation. The GOP was expecting him to take it, Boehner wouldn't have scheduled everything the way he did if they were forcing him out.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Oh come on. What exactly about this is "OH MAN THE GOP IS DONE!!" like Chris Matthews is proclaiming?
And what about this is any different than what they have been doing for the last five years? Local elections have been like this for a while. Perhaps this is the most visible, high-level instance, but it's not a new thing for the Tea Party/GOP relationship.
PhoenixDark
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RustyNails
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For a second I thought you meant Kenny Rogers and I was about to burst out laughing...
Hhaii Im kenny rogerds and uve been punked *blech" hiccup
If anyone is interested, Kennedy's reading of his opinion in Obergefell from May:
https://apps.oyez.org/player/#/roberts6/opinion_announcement_audio/23928
https://apps.oyez.org/player/#/roberts6/opinion_announcement_audio/23928
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Misspelled "sauces"
Well, it actually is. The GOP needs to become a big-tent party again and spin off all the crazy to survive. The Democrats had to do it too, it was the only way they stopped being lost in the woods.
As it is, the Teapers are just going to suicide the entire party just to get one person.
PlayALLtheGames
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Rachel Maddow had a bunch of clips last night. It was seriously unbelievable. The guy can't speak! Even when it was written, the syntax and grammar were all completely fucked up. If you had shown me that clip randomly, i would have guessed the person was having a stroke.
Bam Bam Baklava
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All this is gonna look pretty stupid if the GOP wins it all next year.
How are the Senate projections looking btw?
How are the Senate projections looking btw?
It makes it look like we have bigger problems. Debt Ceiling Part III will be one hell of a finale.
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thepotatoman
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The silly thing is there might only be 30 congresspeople causing the problem, but those 30 people willing to use hostage taking tactics can practically take over the whole government.
Those 30 people could hold the republican party hostage by vowing to vote no on every speaker they don't like. Then those 30 people and the speaker they selected can hold the economy hostage until they get what they want.
If those 30 republicans never relent, then the only way out of that scenario without seeing major damage is for a few democrats to vote for a republican speaker that won't take the economy hostage.
Those 30 people could hold the republican party hostage by vowing to vote no on every speaker they don't like. Then those 30 people and the speaker they selected can hold the economy hostage until they get what they want.
If those 30 republicans never relent, then the only way out of that scenario without seeing major damage is for a few democrats to vote for a republican speaker that won't take the economy hostage.
Goddamn, he really wants to bail out.
The Hillary OT threads are such a mess.
Sanders-stans the last few months "she is too corporate/moderate/right-wing!!!"
Hillary then announces a bunch of left leaning positions and policies.
Sanders-stands after "she is lying, all the more reason she is awful!"
I don't get it. When she is saying moderate things then she is evil because she isn't being liberal enough. When she says liberal things she is evil because she is lying.
Sanders-stans the last few months "she is too corporate/moderate/right-wing!!!"
Hillary then announces a bunch of left leaning positions and policies.
Sanders-stands after "she is lying, all the more reason she is awful!"
I don't get it. When she is saying moderate things then she is evil because she isn't being liberal enough. When she says liberal things she is evil because she is lying.
Republic of Ezo
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I don't see anyone besides Paul Ryan who can get 218 votes from the House GOP. And then the only other option is forming a coalition with Dems (which is a non-starter).
Is there some bizarro-world scenario in which Pelosi ends up Speaker if she gets the most votes? Or does it need to be an absolute majority of the chamber?
Is there some bizarro-world scenario in which Pelosi ends up Speaker if she gets the most votes? Or does it need to be an absolute majority of the chamber?
bodyofanamerican
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Yup, and since it's coming from Costa, it's pretty much 100% true.
Avon Barksdale
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Bam Bam Baklava
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Just another reason why I can't stand ideologues.
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thepotatoman
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I'm sure Ryan is just throwing that "zip-a-dee-doo-da" quote right back at him.
For real, Ryan already took one bullet and went out to get savaged by Biden. Why the fuck would he take another?
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I'm probably being cynical here, but the fact that he brought his wife and kid to a press conference....dude cheated.
bodyofanamerican
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Cross posting from the other thread.
Costa:
Man, they're hanging the party's future square around Ryan's neck.
Costa:
Man, they're hanging the party's future square around Ryan's neck.
ErasureAcer
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You see young grasshopper...if Hillary Clinton were against the TPP or Keystone or anything else she wouldn't have waited months and months and months to come out against it. She's lying. She does support TPP and she does support Keystone.
Hillary Clinton is spineless, unelectable, Wal-Mart trash.
I thought this post was satire until I looked at the poster's name.
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