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Roland_Gunner
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Who they always want: Zombie Regan
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thepotatoman
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It's interesting that Carson/Cruz/Fiorina supporters mostly bounce around between each other a lot more than they bounce to Trump in second choice picks, and when asked head to head Trump vs Rubio they back Rubio.
The problem with the shrinking field theory of Rubio winning is that theory would suggest Carson will be the winner. It makes me wonder if Carson is the bigger threat to Rubio as things stand right now.
The problem is if Rubio starts attacking Carson and the rest, that'll make him drop a lot among those voters as their second choice.
Yup.
I'm starting to see more articles like this:
It's been really fun to witness GOPers place their hopes with him, only to have their hostage caucus send signals that he'll be vetoed.
Poodlestrike
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"Open borders seep out of every pore of his being" is a hell of a quote. Is this the Onion?
There's no way to know anymore. Maybe the real world died in 2012 and we've been stuck in the Onion's world ever since.
VendettaRed07
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They really don't. Republicans would destroy Reagan for his stances on a lot of issues. Compromising, raising taxes, granting amnesty to immigrants, and can you imagine any republican doing something today like when he granted reparations to the Japanese who were put in internment camps during world war 2? The current party is incapable of getting behind any sort of leader
Wow, that looks really bad for Trump.
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thepotatoman
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A lot of the FC are being controlled by outside influences and have no power to make backroom deals like that.
Ignatz Mouse
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Zombie Reagan is way more conservative than actual Reagan.
Fenderputty
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I hope Ryan refuses or gets blasted enough from the freedom nuts that he can't win and we're forced to keep Boehner for a while as he puts up things like immigration, the debt ceiling and a real budget.
Bam Bam Baklava
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As I brought up earlier this is the kind of thing I'm talking about. Just spreading right wing talking points and legitimizing them until the general public believes it too.
Let's just go ahead and use the partisan Benghazi committee and legitimize their claims. What people fail to realize is this damages the image of Democrats as a whole, not just one person. But whatever, anything for Bernie.
Let's just go ahead and use the partisan Benghazi committee and legitimize their claims. What people fail to realize is this damages the image of Democrats as a whole, not just one person. But whatever, anything for Bernie.
He's also dislikes black people a little less.
Bams I think you replied in the wrong thread
Aaron Strife
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I agree with that VA chairman's assessment but tack to the more optimistic end (naturally). Kasich on the ballot could swing Iowa, Ohio and Florida. Then what? Still a Virginia short and I think Colorado would still favor the Democrat (but it wouldn't determine the election anyway). Plus they nominate someone like Trump and that all goes out the window.
In the interest of furthering prospects for a GOP civil war, I really hope that word gets out on this..
Chris Wallace: Establishment groups are threatening to primary House conservatives who oppose Paul Ryan
Here's the key block quote:
Chris Wallace: Establishment groups are threatening to primary House conservatives who oppose Paul Ryan
Here's the key block quote:
PhoenixDark
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Seems like a perfect way to make them even more opposed to Ryan.
Part of me wonders if they (the Chamber of Commerce crowd) knows this, and that they'd prefer an unhinged John Boehner sticking around for as long as possible.
This is probably in everyone's best interests.
Black Mamba
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well, except for one man. lol
There's unhinged and then there's "unhinged". I mean, if Boehner is forced to stick around through the New Year, for example, do we really expect him to spend that entire time ditching the Hastert Rule on first votes?
That poor bastard, he's gonna be an alcoholic by the time they let him leave.
Fenderputty
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If he sticks around and drops measures to vote on that upset the freedom caucus, it could be therapeutic for him.
Aaron Strife
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I want to see a completely insane Boehner.
"Fuck all of y'all, single payer vote is next"
PhoenixDark
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Boehner bringing the senate immigration bill to the floor would be the greatest troll move of all time.
Aaron Strife
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Not the least of which to Democrats who would be pissed he didn't do it while they actually held the Senate. I think of the Yea votes in 2013 there are still 60 in the Senate but that's a pretty fragile coalition especially when guys like Rubio would love the chance to publicly disown it.
If only Hagan, Begich and Udall had held on. And Braley not be terrible. And Kansas not be Kansas. And... You get the idea.
BertramCooper
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I just love that Republicans are pushing so incredibly hard for a move that's almost guaranteed to ruin Paul Ryan's political career while also being terrible for his family. It's so profoundly selfish of them to ask him to do this.
As someone who hates basically everything Paul Ryan stands for as a politician, I hope he takes the job. But as someone who sympathizes with Ryan as a father and husband, I hope he tells them to go fuck themselves.
As someone who hates basically everything Paul Ryan stands for as a politician, I hope he takes the job. But as someone who sympathizes with Ryan as a father and husband, I hope he tells them to go fuck themselves.
Aaron Strife
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Keith Hussein Ellison
No but seriously? As a Minnesotan my dream scenario is that Klobuchar gets picked as VP and Ellison is appointed to her Senate seat. Congratulations Minnesota Republicans, your state sent a liberal Jew and a liberal Muslim to the Senate and a liberal woman to the White House.
Hey whatever happened to that guy who posted in here insisting Minnesota was trending Republican?
RustyNails
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Has Ellison got the chops to run for Potus in 2024, assuming he gets into US senate?
Aaron Strife
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Would the US be willing to elect a Muslim by that point? I'm guessing no.
But hey, if Bernie wins the nomination he should go for broke and pick Keith for veep. Why not?
You mean his name isn't Muslim Hussein Lawmaker?
Personally I hope for some email puns, this Hillary pic, and a quote from that NY Post secret service story.
RastaMentality
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thepotatoman
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That basically makes winning the presidency and holding the senate a requirement for holding the party together. If they do that they can get rid of the filibuster and all the republicans will get everything they've always wanted. If they don't win 2016, then they're right back to the fundamental problem of being without a speaker and being confronted by a bunch of conservatives who are even more upset at the establishment not doing enough to block the president.
Paul Ryan can at least last as a lightning rod for a few years, similar to Boehner, and try to limit the damage from the extreme side of the party.
Maybe Ryan can somehow last long enough until Democrats retake the house, and Republicans can go back to being united in hating democrats while focusing on local politics to enact their plans.
RustyNails
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I'm disappointed so far with GOP debates because Trumpmeister hasn't performed any fatality since "you're having a hard time tonight" line in the first.
I blame the audience in that second debate. Trump played it well considering the Bush bias. This is the same audience that lost it when Jeb said that W. kept us safe. He did have a killer line, "you're showing some energy tonight. That's good." And it got nothing from the crowd. Imagine if he actually went on the offense.
I dunno, I liked the way he led with, "First of all, Rand Paul shouldn't even be on this stage" last time. That was ice cold. No attack on policy, just "fuck are you even doing here".
Trump did kill Jeb in the second debate. No question. Carson didn't die, he's a cooler customer on stage.
Yea, we need more fatalities from Trump. A lot of his opponents are weak, he could get a bunch of them in one night.
I think he was just pissed a dude he killed was brought back on stage, killing a dead man is hardly sporting.
Every Time he says something that's out there I'm always a little nervous that he'll get some blowback from it. But nah. The guy is cool as ice.
Trump will find a way to get him, don't you worry. I fully expect him to devour Fiorina's soul next though.
Not even. He'll stick to attacking Rubio and Jeb. There's only so many times he can say "I cherish women" when he's constantly in the news for attacking them. It's not like Carly's even a serious threat.
Tarkus
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A Fatality is exactly what Ted Cruz needs. No more Friendships.
FloydtheFathead
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There's no way he can't kill her. Christ she barely held it together when he hit her over the head with H.P at the debate. She looked like she was going to cry. She recovered with her PP spiel, but still looked a little shook to me after that.
Macho Madness
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Jeb's Obamacare replacement isn't very good, Unsurprisingly.
Look at that. Tax credits and higher HSA limits. *to everyone's surprise*
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I guess I don't get why they keep pushing Health Savings Accounts. It's a huge no-sell to the average voter. One medical event wipes out the entire thing.
You're telling the me that average republicans with a lower to middle-class salary are jumping at the chance to put more of their own money away in an account that will be destroyed when their kid breaks his leg?
You're telling the me that average republicans with a lower to middle-class salary are jumping at the chance to put more of their own money away in an account that will be destroyed when their kid breaks his leg?
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