Or ask America if they want their country to run like their HP Photosmart printers. She might as well just quit at that point.
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PoliGAF 2015 |OT2| Pls print
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JHoNNy1OoO
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The Trumpster has landed.
Time for more stream of consciousness.
Time for more stream of consciousness.
Disconnection from reality? The people disapproval of Obama's handling of the economy has nothing to do with the economy. Wages are up, it's easier to get a job, and healthcare is cheaper and more accessible. The places where the economy is doing poorly, like Wisconsin and Kansas, are due to policies implemented by their Republican governors.
RustyNails
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This speech!
Trump skewered George Will and Karl Rove on live television LOLLLLL
Trump skewered George Will and Karl Rove on live television LOLLLLL
NYCmetsfan
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This reminds me of that one time I got high and watched Clint Eastwood talk to a chair.
Poodlestrike
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No, that actually happened.
RustyNails
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I'm convinced, Trump is running as a manchurian democrat.
His comment about being able to get ratings while saying nothing of substance was waaaaay too obvious a wink. Not subtle at all.
NYCmetsfan
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Did Karl Marx design trump as the perfect candidate?
Am watching here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhERfHaAYKI
Edit: oh boy, the comments in the live chat of that stream...
NYCmetsfan
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Haha they selling beer?
Dominican Power
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Muricans are so dumb
NYCmetsfan
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Cool klan rally
RustyNails
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That Ellen Page looking lady in the back is cute...
RustyNails
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Ah. I have a dirty mind.
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Looking at the crowd, I wonder how many of them are folks like me who'd go just for the perverse entertainment value. I'd probably buy a cartoonish piece of clothing on with an American flag on it, cheer profusely when he says something that's general election poison, laugh at his Jeb jokes, etc.
Some of the grins in that crowd, at times, just seem a bit too.. knowing.
Wow, I totally disagree with this. Healthcare.gov completely gave the GOP a pass on their shutdown. I really don't think I agree with this at all.
JHoNNy1OoO
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MSNBC just went to a shot of some people eating a bucket of popcorn. It's freaking hilarious.
Fenderputty
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I remember the ACA rollout killing shutdown talk as well
RustyNails
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Seriously! It's the best Trump speech by far. "Idiots like Karl Rove..." LOL
Edit: I'm not sure if Trump or the crowd knows how trade deficit works
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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It was the same speech he's given over the past few months, but he's bored with it now or something.
PhoenixDark
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Exactly. It made the shutdown a non-story. Instead we got nonstop coverage blaming the website entirely on Obama, hand wringing over his hands off leadership style, various stories about people not being able to sign up before the deadline, etc. Remember those people that lost coverage due to a glitch or whatever? That was also nonstop on the news.
If Trump's the nominee, I'd love to see how he handles it when he's supposed to continue giving his regular Fox News commentary. He's gonna have to swallow his pride HARD.
Same goes for a lot of commentators on the right, really.
Aaron Strife
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I guess in the sense that it canceled out the negative effects of the shutdown, sure. But I don't imagine any swing voters going into the voting booth in 2014 like "Well I was going to vote for the Democrat buuuut the Obamacare website didn't work at first so"
neurosisxeno
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On that Trump speech, who is the blonde woman who comes out at about 39m? She is downright terrifying...
EDIT: Nevermind, she said her name, right before a rant about some bullshit. Hold on, did she just imply Obama was complicit with the genocide of Christians? What the shit...
EDIT: Nevermind, she said her name, right before a rant about some bullshit. Hold on, did she just imply Obama was complicit with the genocide of Christians? What the shit...
RustyNails
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Maybe not but it most probably depressed democrat turnout and fence-sitters.
Now that's how it's done. Instant results. Thanks Donald!
Bam Bam Baklava
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I've seen first hand evidence of the economy improving and I'm sure so have plenty of people. How many vacant stores in shopping centers are there now compared to 2009? How many help wanted signs do you see now? How many construction projects do you see being worked on now vs then?
The proof is all around us, not just some numbers in data being released. If people don't see that then we as a society have detached ourselves from reality. Or we only care about the economy when the news is bad and ignore it when the news is good.
The proof is all around us, not just some numbers in data being released. If people don't see that then we as a society have detached ourselves from reality. Or we only care about the economy when the news is bad and ignore it when the news is good.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Or they live in an area where the economy still sucks. Like me.
Roland_Gunner
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Perhaps not consciously but all of the polls showed that voters thought Obamacare was a failure and the botched launched was a huge part of that.
You're right about 2014. Obama's second term started off near disastrously and Republicans had the dominant media narrative. Obamacare was getting horrible press which erased the memory of the shutdown, ISIS and ebola were all over the news, and people weren't feeling the recovery.
This is also what has me hopeful that 2016 could be a good year all around. Obama really turned his second term around and has left the Democratic nominee with a good narrative. Obamacare is a much bigger success, he made the Iran nuclear deal, opened relations with Cuba, gay marriage became legal, and the economy continues its slow recovery. I just hope he can have a few more base hits before next November.
PantherLotus
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The difference between Democrats and Republicans is that Republicans don't wait for good things to run on, while Dems couldn't find a good thing if it created literally millions of jobs
GTF outta here with that Obamacare rollout nonsense causing losses. Dems simply don't know how to run on positives, ever. Plenty of positives. If you can't think of any, make something up and play fucking politics like a grownup -- and try running away from the one of the 5 best presidents ever at your own fucking risk. SMFH
GTF outta here with that Obamacare rollout nonsense causing losses. Dems simply don't know how to run on positives, ever. Plenty of positives. If you can't think of any, make something up and play fucking politics like a grownup -- and try running away from the one of the 5 best presidents ever at your own fucking risk. SMFH
Retromelon
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^^ Hahaha bold claim there buddy
JesseEwiak
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Um, did she look kinda, er, mannish? Than that's Ann Coulter, who has grabbed on to the "immigrants are going to destroy the country" shtick because her book sales of her general purpose liberals are horrible books started to stagnate.
PantherLotus
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wait, which part?
I rant that they need to take a play from the Bill Clinton playbook and brag about the same set of stats every chance they make. Everyone who paid attention in the 90s can probably quote along with his whole "22 million new jobs created" "100,000 new police on the streets" "bridge to the 21st Century" brags because he hammered the hell out of them at every opportunity. Keep it short and memorable so that after a few times, it begins to sink into the background as a given.
Assuming that the economy continues along pretty well, every Democrat in 2016 needs to be out there with comparison stats for unemployment, job creation, Cuba relations, etc. Fairly or unfairly, voters tend to blame the guy in the Oval Office for when things are going well or poorly, and Dems would be wise to remind voters of who was in charge when things went to shit in the late aughts. The Democrats should have absolutely zero problems drawing a contrast between the allegedly shitty Bush years and the allegedly wonderful Obama years.
I really like the idea of an early saturation ad campaign with the intent to set the tone and agenda, especially if the Dems' contest is done and the GOP is still fighting it out. This year's could be a two-parter:
1: Hopeful Theme: the above-described "sunshine and rainbows and ponies" contrast campaign
2: Kooky Funny Theme: highlight reels of various out-there GOP comments from primary season, essentially asking: "do we really wanna put one of these fucking kooks in charge? Remember what happened the last time?"
Retromelon
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The part at the very end
Thequietone
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To be fair most US presidents are/were crappy human beings, so it is not hard to get into the top 5.
He has to be up there. We've had mostly racists and homophobes in office.
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