While true, he's also doing well among moderate and liberal dems in that state. As well as African-American voters. Not as well as Hillary in any of those categories of course.
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While true, he's also doing well among moderate and liberal dems in that state. As well as African-American voters. Not as well as Hillary in any of those categories of course.
PhoenixDark
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If Biden runs it's going to suck watching him get raked across the coals for the CRIME bill. Yea it was a shitty bill I do not support but still...
Polip Fawn
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Did you actually read my post? even just that first part?
That's part of why I include Cruz in my final four. If there's a "Washington insider" who could stick around and pick up some of the outsider votes as they drop out, I think it'd be him. (I also wonder if he'll benefit from a shutdown in December..)
If you thought this was bad wait till October 22nd when the blood of Benghazi will be at Hillary's feet.
When do sample state ballots come in the newspaper?
RustyNails
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Ben Carson is such a dumb mumble fuck moron. In my opinion this lunatic is worse than any other candidate in the primary, even worse than Sarah Palin's candidacy. The guy has very serious inhibitions about the world and how it operates. He doesn't even have a wrong understanding, like Huckabee's or Palin's, both who said inflammatory things just to stay in the headlines as well. Carson has just completely, incomprehensibly bad understanding. Like prisons being a gayifying institution and ACA is worse than slavery. He really believes this shit. In my opinion he is Michelle Bachmann levels of crazybat.
Hopefully my prediction about him being a flavor of the month comes to fruition and he goes away.
Hopefully my prediction about him being a flavor of the month comes to fruition and he goes away.
Hobbestetrician
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Several posts seem to have disappeared overnight. What don't you want us to see, Hillary?!
Retromelon
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Tarkus
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They got scrubbed
RastaMentality
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Do you think Sanders is gonna go for him on it? Because Hillary's only ever said that it was something they thought worked for the time but never really apologized. And Sanders voted for it because it was attached to another section (on women I believe) that he really wanted to pass. So who gets to attack the other on this?
He says the stuff so politely though i don't know why you are being so mean to him.
RustyNails
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Supervillains are almost always polite. They are educated and can converse. But then they say things like we must destroy the earth in order to save it.
Sanders: I won't be as naïve as Obama was with Congress
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/bernie-sanders-naive-obama-214222#ixzz3n9WVbX4y
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/bernie-sanders-naive-obama-214222#ixzz3n9WVbX4y
Polip Fawn
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Lol Bernie isn't going anywhere most of Americans who hear socialists revert to Stalin in the back of their head. Also even the ones who understand it don't really like socialists, although that's where the country is heading. A very odd confliction.
Bam Bam Baklava
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And he's the one calling other people naive. Doesn't matter if 70% of people support anything when a bunch of members in R+20 districts don't care.
Are you saying we're headed towards socialism? That's a new one.
I mean, we're definitely going generally towards socialism. There are a lot of stops on the route between where we are and Scandinavia though. Like, you know, parental leave, or not letting people starve all the time.
Notably, however, the idea that "we're going towards socialism even though everybody hates it" is pretty obviously dumb. If we're going towards socialism, pretty straightforwardly it means that most people want us to. That's, like, how democracy works. They might not like the WORD socialism, but what they want is socialism.
I don't know if the amount of welfare programs is a very good gauge of whether or not we're moving towards socialism. Union membership would probably be more useful, but that's pretty much going down in all developed countries that I know of.
I was also just curious to what his opinions are considering the Cornel West avatar and his endorsement of Bernie Sanders not that long ago.
Abinash117
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I seriously doubt that the supposed tens of millions of people will change anything. If Sanders have a Republican Senate and House at that point than those tens of millions of people doesn't exist, won't for long, or wasn't very effective if the Senate and House are Republican. I guess he still thinks that "plan" can work.
Pressuring them won't work because why would they listen when to them in the first place. If he has to rely on those people; that is saying to me at least, that he is really implying that he won't have much power or influence over the political parties. Obama kinda did, especially with McConnell and Boehnar that helped control the Republican Party.
I still smile every time I think about Walker already being out..
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Sweet! Another Louisiana PoliGAFfer!
More like R+7/8 districts. That's how you gerrymander. If it were R+20 districts, most of the districts would be a soft lean D.
PhoenixDark
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Sanders isn't wrong about Obama being naive. His behavior towards republicans was stunningly stupid and displayed a man who didn't know he was being played. No wonder no one on the hill respects him.
But this idea that Sanders could prevent that with "the people" is laughable. The people don't give a fuck. Republicans in the house have safe districts, what danger would an army of liberal college kids pose to them? Come on...
Sanders sounds like Cruz explaining why a govt shutdown can work. Nonsense.
But this idea that Sanders could prevent that with "the people" is laughable. The people don't give a fuck. Republicans in the house have safe districts, what danger would an army of liberal college kids pose to them? Come on...
Sanders sounds like Cruz explaining why a govt shutdown can work. Nonsense.
Retromelon
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Wow. Watch for the backlash..
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015...dType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015...dType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Honestly, Sanders sounds even more naive than Obama was. I've said it before, but his stance here is basically bullshit pandering.
Aaron Strife
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All of them.
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen wants you to know she's not retiring
https://twitter.com/RosLehtinen/status/648939262596005890
https://twitter.com/RosLehtinen/status/648939262596005890
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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He's Fire and Brimstone Cruz on Valium and a 'dipshit that listens to Rightwing AM talk radio all day' hot sauce on his rhetoric.
PantherLotus
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like what, with a cloth?
RustyNails
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Looks like Ailes begged. Like a dog.
Tarkus
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Like our favorite email server
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Polip Fawn
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No but a lot of americans do. Also it's not a new one have you been keeping up with the media and public surveys the last few years?
Like I said the american people are still hardwired against the word "socialist" it will tajke maybe another generation to be rid of most of it.
Polip Fawn
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Who is going to fail? If anything writting these guys off is dangerous and will give them a chance to win.
Also lol I forgot Jim Gilmore was in the race, he didn't end up in one debate didn't he?
Aaron Strife
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Guess ol' Randy Paul is dropping out soon. That makes him, Walker and uh... oops.
Couldn't have happened to a douchier guy.
RustyNails
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Really? I thought he said on Monday his plan was to outlast Trump.
One of his super PACs just went dark and stopped raising money.
BertramCooper
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C'mon, Rand. Your dad is ashamed of you for dropping out this early.
Tarkus
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He literally just told (at 2:00 pm) a Fox News anchor that he was not dropping out and in it for the long run. He even paid the SC fee today so I doubt it's true.
PhoenixDark
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Rand Paul sold his soul and it didn't work. For the last year and a half he has moved away from isolationist views, changed his view on foreign aide specifically with regard to Israel, and made nice with establishment republicans. He isn't his father's son. He clearly doesn't want to be the poorest guy in Washington not named Joe Biden, which is what Ron Paul was for years. He went for the money and lost his base.
But I'll still give him dap for exposing neoconservative fuckery as well as the ignorance of drug laws at that last debate.
But I'll still give him dap for exposing neoconservative fuckery as well as the ignorance of drug laws at that last debate.
RustyNails
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Running campaigns needs money though. All those hotels, plane tickets and staff expenses and paychecks can't manifest out of thin air.
Which makes me wonder how Pataki, Lindsey and Kasich are surviving.
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