Matthew is 100% going to hit Florida hard this evening, I believe. Politically though, Hillary could win without florida at this point, but still. I'm atheist praying for them.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT12| The last days of the Republic
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Matthew is 100% going to hit Florida hard this evening, I believe. Politically though, Hillary could win without florida at this point, but still. I'm atheist praying for them.
Yeah, he's quite self aggrandizing.
Box of Kittens
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Well of course you have the factor that charter schools are in the interest of some powerful people. But beyond that you have a lot of factors. There's a desire to try something to improve education, particularly in regards to urban school districts and on paper charter schools can sound like a good idea. The idea of schools that have the flexibility to try innovative approaches is appealing across party lines.
Of course the reality is quite far from what it sounds like on paper. When I was living in Ohio there were news reports coming out about the charter schools there that were quite damning, including but not limited to falsifying attendance records for funding.
Well this works for Republicans when they hamstring government and use the result as evidence that government sucks, it's about time we turn the tables
Aaron Strife
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ND has the same laws.
Have fun freaking out about Donnelly and Heitkamp in two years everybody!
Atomic Playboy
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Here I was thinking "Ne-VAH-duh" was correct. Glad I've never had call to say the name of the state while I was visiting. Then again, coming from Oregon, I feel like I get a little bit of leeway when it comes to people mispronouncing state names, as it seems like everyone East of the Mississippi thinks we're "Or-ee-gone". It wasn't until the Ducks started doing OK in college football that people started realizing how to say our state.
Rockin' Ranger
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I'm not sure, but I don't think I'll take the word of someone that can't say China properly.
whyamihere
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Why would we freak out over Heitkamp, America's Favorite Senator?
metalslimer
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The charter school I went to was awesome and it got me out of the horrendous education system. The problem was we soaked up a lot of public money when the capacity of the school was so much less. I didn't understand at the time why the public school system was fighting us so hard at the time. There was a huge fight over busing
Also things seem so much worse for Florida than I thought yesterday
Also things seem so much worse for Florida than I thought yesterday
Hurricane Matthew will deal a devastating blow to the Florida coast
Lester Holt just touched down in Florida to report from the coast. Is this reward or punishment for the debate?
Bonen no Max'd
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The number of times this ad has been posted is amusing me.
Aaronology
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Booker has his issues. I've yet to vote for a perfect candidate in any election, ever, and that won't change by the time Booker will likely be running for President.
Damn...........
North Dakota had a decent amount of polling in October (mostly from some unknown Pharos Research) but I recall it was pretty much a toss up, a little lean R - the final poll of the race had Berg up 2%. It was really fun watching Heitkamp win that one.
Manmademan
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Of course. Many parents LOVE their charter schools and give them high marks and much of the praise you just did. But usually the issue isn't that they got their kids away from "a horrendous education system", they got them away from the problem children of the student body, and into an environment where nearly all parents place a high value on education.
Good for them individually, but all that does is concentrate the problem students into the public schools even more than they already are, and slashes the budget that would be needed to deal with them.
NYCmetsfan
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If you want to talk about electoral consequences this will likely hurt republican areas more unless it goes further west
If it does a double tap that would affect more liberal areas in the south and further inland
IggyChooChoo
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I can think of a couple other places where locals pronounce it one way and everyone else pronounces it another:
Gettysburg (locals pronounce it Get-ISS-burg, not Get-EES-burg)
Talladega (locals say Talla-DEE-ga, not Talla-DAY-ga)
Louisville (varies somewhat, but locals tend to say LOO-A-VUL or LOO-A-VILLE as opposed to LOO-E-VILLE)
NYCmetsfan
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This is particularly unfortunate because I think Republicans will have learned all the wrong lessons from Sandy in 2012 and will try to politicize this to the max and deliberately avoid cooperating with Obama so that they can make hay of what a mess it's become. And in the end it's the people that suffer.
Is that a blue part of the state?
VendettaRed07
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I'm actually worried we might not retake the senate.
And if we don't I can totally see the GOP just killing the Scotus and refusing to appoint anyone for who knows how long. Just because they can and weren't punished for doing it this time.
And if we don't I can totally see the GOP just killing the Scotus and refusing to appoint anyone for who knows how long. Just because they can and weren't punished for doing it this time.
The Lamonster
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How can you tell and why does it matter?
IggyChooChoo
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I'll just say that since moving here, I've found some locals to be fairly intolerant of the national "looeyville" pronunciation.
eBay Huckster
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i'm gonna be That Guy and point out that the areas that'll be most impacted by pre-loop matthew are mostly republican-leaning
darkstar0155
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I don't get this. Even saying it does effect the election, wouldn't it effect both Clinton and Trump equally or mostly equal?
whyamihere
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You can see the ballot ahead of time. It doesn't matter at all, I just felt like saying it, might help Kander though. I know a couple of Trump supporters that are rooting for him because he isn't "establishment" lol.
darkstar0155
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Do we have good evidence that the areas most impacted are R leaning areas, or is this sorta just a "it probably will be X leaning areas" with no empirical data to go off of? Serious question.
Rick Scott, the Republican governor, is also known as Skeletor or Voldemort. He is comically evil. If he can wring an ounce of political advantage from the suffering of his own people, you can be sure that he will do so.
Also anything that depresses turnout helps the Republicans.
eBay Huckster
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literally every coastal county north of where it's forecast to make landfall is empirically lean R
orange/osceola are inland and shouldn't be hit quite as hard as those areas
whyamihere
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darkstar0155
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This will either bring climate change into the limelight (not a good look for R's) or bring federal disaster aid relief, again not being a good look for R's. I just don't see this as having much of a election impact, especially being over a month away.
balladofwindfishes
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Neh-Vah-Da
My dumb western NY accent
My dumb western NY accent
IggyChooChoo
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Sure he did. If you define his goal as becoming a high-profile conservative personality and book salesman, Carson was wildly successful. He is now a go-to guy for conservative media on two major issues: as a pious Christian, and as a scold of black people for white audiences so they can assure themselves they aren't racist. Those are two very lucrative niches, and without this election cycle, they would still be occupied by people like Rick Santorum and Herman Cain.
Florida, 2012:
Oh man, it's going to hit mostly Republican areas... And Orlando.
I'll just refrain from commenting on that fact, just that I hope the worst doesn't happen and the government does its best to help the people out.
Finale Fireworker
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Apparently everybody outside of Nevada pronounced it AH-DA and people in Nevada pronounce it AD-A. I don't think this has ever been a point of contention until now. But here we are.
And all things said, I would rather be right than wrong.
I think at most what it will do, politically, is make the next debates irrelevant in the news cycle.
Manmademan
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I wouldn't be.
ticket splitting is pretty much dead. It's looking like Democrats should carry IL, PA, WI, and IN pretty easily. Those alone gives you senate control, plus Kaine if something bizarre happens.
On top of those, NC and NH are probably going to go D- ticket splitting is pretty much dead. Hillary carries those states and the senate is probably going along with it.
Nevada is pretty close and *could* go R- but we know Nevada polling consistently undercounts D turnout, given the industry in that state and the number of voters who speak poor english or none at all.
FL is also in the same boat- polling "leans R" but there are a LOT of voters that aren't being polled due to the language issue as well as recent migration in from PR.
darkstar0155
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Florida, 2012:
Thanks guys. Seriously appreciate it. I haven't been following the storm story. I'm biased anyways, I go whitewater kayaking so when I see big storms I get all excited lol.
Another one is Pierre in South Dakota. The locals say "Peer," as in, "he is my peer," not "PE-AIR," and I was boggled beyond belief when I found this out.
Wacky place, South Dakota.
IggyChooChoo
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I was surprised the first time I heard a San Franciscan refer to San Pablo bay (pablo pronounced like "grab-low), and the first time I heard the "los angle-ees" pronunciation also comes to mind. I suppose it is pretty inconsistent in the ways it differs from the original Spanish, though.
balladofwindfishes
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I still find it funny we have an entire state whose industry pretty much revolves around night life and gambling. And it's so prominent, it's difficult to do day stuff in the state due to the state having completely different hours than everyone else.
You couldn't make up such a place in a book without it sounding kind of fake.
darkstar0155
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Honestly, that's a benefit to Clinton. She has little to gain from the debate going heavily in her favor, and much to lose. Trump NEEDS to turn the tide, and the debate not getting much media attention wouldn't be that good if he does do well (especially since most will be watching football when its actually on)
Democrats win if people hit the polls. If this storm decimates some Florida cities, where mostly democrats live, they'll be too busy picking up their lives and getting back on their feet to worry about voting. Low turnout = GOP wins. High turnout = Dems win.
I hate talking about this kind of stuff with people's lives on the line, but the timing of this is really bad politically speaking. Even one month from now on election day, people may still not have power, are staying with relatives away from their polling locations, etc.
Wheeljack539
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What would be the correct pronunciation for Louisville?
Joe Shlabotnik
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hillary just sent out a fundraising email titled "bedwetting"
HEY GUYS
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hillary just sent out a fundraising email titled "bedwetting"
HEY GUYS
Good guy Mook respecting Diablos' wishes
Beer Monkey
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I think Republicans will get hit hard in FL because doublewides and trailers don't handle weather as well.
FWIW I've lived in a trailer park, so I'm not being classist, just realistic.
I also don't think it will affect their turnout much. Republicans vote, come hell or high water.
FWIW I've lived in a trailer park, so I'm not being classist, just realistic.
I also don't think it will affect their turnout much. Republicans vote, come hell or high water.
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