StopMakingSense
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It's something that in practice makes for bad legislators.
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It's something that in practice makes for bad legislators.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Well, except for the part about a supermajority of both houses proposing an amendment on congressional term limits.
Also, term limits.
It's a common phrase used by the right. Ben Carson used it constantly during the primaries as well.
Aaron Strife
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Stein's signature plan (eliminating student debt via quantitative easing) would destroy the economy, full stop.
She is a shyster and does not deserve your vote.
whyamihere
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Term limits are a bad idea and have been a general disaster and every state that they've been implemented in.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
That was not good music.
EmCeeGramr
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He really needs to see a psychiatrist for... well, just about everything, but also this genuine complex he has about sleeping where he thinks it's strange and bad. He barely sleeps as it is, and he only wants to sleep in his own tower. Did something happen to him as a kid? Did he wake up with a bug on his face and he's been traumatized by sleep ever since?
Fragamemnon
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They are actually terrible. Further promotes kick-the-can behavior, increases ideological divisions, and breaks apart relationships that can be used to get compromise legislation passed.
If people are worried their representatives aren't in tune with their needs, they should look at fixing gerrymandering and public funding, not term limits.
cartoon_soldier
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Term Limits Are Bad.
Carpe Carnim
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It's one of those folksy "common sense" propositions that polls well, until it comes times to retire YOUR Congressperson.
I'm embarrassed everytime I hear an otherwise informed, intelligent person use it.
I never said the logistics of passing it were easy, but the idea merits consideration.
NYCmetsfan
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StopMakingSense
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No, it's a bad idea. It's been terrible for states that have implemented it.
Eliminates accountability. Removes good legislators with experience and actually like the job and care about legislative governance. Job becomes nothing more than a launching platform for wannabes.
Agreed. If it was like 35-35-20 Trump/McMullin/Hillary then it would make sense, but not in a competitive three-way race.
Randolph Freelander
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Little known fact: the last Friday of early voting includes a séance.
Is he still harping about rigged election?
This shit isn't cool, he's talking about illegal immigrants voting, and I would not be at all surprised if his extreme and bigoted base were to attack some minority thinking that they are here illegally and have no right to vote.
This legit pisses me off, these ignorant morons think this is rigged and he keeps fueling that fire. And they keep making threats against Hillary and people that will be going to vote for her, I swear I best not see anyone at my polling place trying to intimidate voters for this orange asshole because I will absolutely snap on them.
This shit isn't cool, he's talking about illegal immigrants voting, and I would not be at all surprised if his extreme and bigoted base were to attack some minority thinking that they are here illegally and have no right to vote.
This legit pisses me off, these ignorant morons think this is rigged and he keeps fueling that fire. And they keep making threats against Hillary and people that will be going to vote for her, I swear I best not see anyone at my polling place trying to intimidate voters for this orange asshole because I will absolutely snap on them.
Spoiled Milk
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I'm worried about ACORN's role in this election.
Randolph Freelander
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Squirrels have been seen hording the acorns. What else are they hiding?
NYCmetsfan
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We've debated it for like 200 years, its been implemented in some states and it sucks, and is antidemocratic .
Name me a state that has legislative term limits that functions well.
California is perhaps the only one but I'd argue term limits there are a mess and their whole putting everything to a publicite, ugh
Dude really is the perfect Republican.
tedrotheredro
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In other words, you got tanked?
this
Bam Bam Baklava
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I'd rather you not vote at all than vote for someone so unqualified and insane like Stein. Her ideas are mostly fantasy bullshit.
crowphoenix
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"Cause after that, I drop the bombs!"
Fragamemnon
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I learn something new every page of this thread. This is crazier than most of Trump's "policies".
Vic Berger: Melania Speaks Out About the Trump Tapes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96esIUaFqmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96esIUaFqmU
whyamihere
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Or if we had the House.
sturgboski
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Didnt ICE come out and also say "no we didnt"?
Spoiled Milk
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What? Why would it destroy the economy?
IggyChooChoo
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It was something like the union of ICE employees, yeah.
You can't just make debt disappear, basic finance. Like John Oliver explained on Sunday, it's voodoo economics. Stein blabs about the Fed printing money in order to liquidate student debt, but that's nonsense.
Somebody will have to pay for those billions of dollars in student debt, and it either has to be the government, banks or someone, but that money owed won't just go away.
No offense to Jill because if making music is one of her passions then that's awesome, but those songs sounded like leftover Evanescence b-sides.
Battlechili
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Based on the video shared, if I understood it correctly, I believe it would involve her essentially creating money that doesn't exist, thus devaluing the dollar.
At least, that seems to be the argument against her stance on solving student debt.
But I like Evanescence...
whyamihere
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Wait, I thought the swamp was DC.
metalslimer
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I'd be worried more about national security with Jill Stein than the economy, especially as that is where she could have profound influence.
That doesn't just *seem* to be the argument. That is 100% the argument. Eliminating student debt by printing money would tank our economy faster than Trump's tax cuts.
Black Mamba
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I think Oliver is wrong on this point. She can't destroy the economy by forgiving student debt through quantitative easing.
The reason being is that you can't use quantitative easing to eliminate student debt.
What was obvious is she doesn't know what quantitative easing actually is. I guess if she attempted it, she could hurt the economy. It could actually help, though the Fed is pretty much at its limits with it. If she did it a huge amount she hurt the economy.
All the while, student debt would go no where.
The general idea is the Jill Stein is a wackjob moron and anything she'd do is so stupid that the sum of all the parts would be a nation's economy being destroyed and that is largely correct.
Amy Lee has some serious pipes. Jill Stein does not...
Aaron Strife
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- Taking 1.3 trillion dollars out of the economy, a huge blow to loan-giving companies and strongly disincentivizes them from giving out future loans
- Printing 1.3 trillion dollars immediately crashes the dollar
Carpe Carnim
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I'm going to use this comment as a springboard for something i've been thinking all year,but since I just got here, I can't make a thread.
Since it looks like Clinton is ready to schlong Donny Baby-Hands, I want to get a jump on the inevitable post-election navel gazing.
It's become obvious that US media, especially political media, is unwilling, or unable to deal with a demagogue who lies so much, and so fast that it overwhelms their ability to react in the interest of voters. Billions in unearned media for a fascist clown have been expended and I feel as though we're even less informed of the problems and issues that face us.
What can realistically be done to effect real change in how we learn about our leaders and their positions? Is there any way to ignite interest in changing the way we discuss politics, or is this really the sickening pinnacle of media-saturated, click-bait American politics?
What is this swamp he is talking about?
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