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PoliGAF 2016 |OT13| For Queen and Country

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Bam Bam Baklava

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If I were in charge I would do two things in the week before the election. I would hold a major rally with every popular Dem with Clinton that includes Barack, Michelle, Joe, Bill and Al Gore. Like a mini-DNC in a pivotal state that needs a final push like NC or Ohio. Secondly I would do what Obama did in 2008 with the infomercial and dedicate it entirely to what positive measures Clinton wants to push.
 
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Fragamemnon

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Maybe this entire election was about Trump building a media brand to sell to the Russians. Even if he doesn't win Putin gets to settle in for the long play of relentlessly pounding on American democracy through some debased twitter/youtube/cable news/social media monster.
 
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Carpe Carnim

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shiba5 said:
Tax payers are going to be the one eating this Trump failure since he won the contract from the GSA.
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He had to self finance the Washington hotel, because no one would lend him money. If it folds, it costs him millions personally. Not that he won't write that loss off on taxes, but I can guarantee that it puts him at risk of a personal bankruptcy in the short term
 
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Aaron Strife

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Bam Bam Baklava said:
If I were in charge I would do two things in the week before the election. I would hold a major rally with every popular Dem with Clinton that includes Barack, Michelle, Joe, Bill and Al Gore. Like a mini-DNC in a pivotal state that needs a final push like NC or Ohio. Secondly I would do what Obama did in 2008 with the infomercial and dedicate it entirely to what positive measures Clinton wants to push.
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Do one each night

Atlanta, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Austin
 
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Cerium

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I would focus more on helping the down ballot. Hillary herself wouldn't help much in red states, but dispatch Michelle and Bernie to places like Missouri.
 
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shinra-bansho

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Why would Bernie or Michelle Obama help in red states...

Close races in places where they hate Hillary aren't going to be helped much by the black first lady and a socialist Jew. They really just want that Clinton campaign cash.
 
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Hazmat

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BobTheFork said:
I think they should and it's not misplaced. Go ahead and shut it down. If they use it too then they have no right to complain and it's hypocritical.

It sounds lame but it's what separates right and wrong. You don't fight fire with fire, you fight fire with water.
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There is no value in playing by a set of imaginary rules that can substantially handicap your side's ability to win. I'm all for changing gerrymandering and campaign finance, but if the Republicans are going to abuse them then I sure as shit want the Democrats to as well (while they fight to change them). Life isn't a movie where the good guys win because they're virtuous and Dumbledore spots them an extra 50 points.
 
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Black Mamba

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in NBC/WSJ poll, Obama job rating overall: 53% approve, 44% disapprove. among whites in union households, 44%-53%
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John Harwood ‏@JohnJHarwood 44m44 minutes ago
in NBC/WSJ poll, groups giving Obama sub-40% job approval: white men, white Southern, white Catholic, rural
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John Harwood ‏@JohnJHarwood 30m30 minutes ago
in NBC/WSJ poll, Obama job rating among those saying they voted early: 68% approve, 29% disapprove
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BobTheFork

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Hazmat said:
There is no value in playing by a set of imaginary rules that can substantially handicap your side's ability to win.
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There is whatever value on the rules that you place on them. They can care about it or not, but I don't want to see them pretend to care and then just do the same thing.
 
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Des0lar

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So I was watching the new O'Keefe video and yeah these guys he is talking to are shady. They sound shady. But we don't have a full picture because he apparently never releases the full videos.

Also I never understood the "busing people around" thing. If you wanted to rig an election with people voting twice or thrice, you would need an incredible amount of people doing this, thousand, tens of thousands and in addition all of them would have to keep quiet. If the DNC can pull this off without anybody noticing, well they have my respect lol
 
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shiba5

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He's going to start a Putin style propaganda network to push Bannon approved alt-right candidates. It will actually make FOX seem fair and balanced.
 
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User 463088

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My aunt is a rich white lady in a deep red state. She and her husband are loaded. They were 100% in for every Republican ever. She told my mom today they're both voting for Hillary. My mom almost died. These are not winnable people. I 'm legit shocked.
 
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Carpe Carnim

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shinra-bansho said:
Why would Bernie or Michelle Obama help in red states...

Close races in places where they hate Hillary aren't going to be helped much by the black first lady and a socialist Jew. They really just want that Clinton campaign cash.
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It's certainly going to motivate Dems there to vote early, or avoid finding reasons to procrastinate on Nov. 8th
 
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Paches

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adam387 said:
My aunt is a rich white lady in a deep red state. She and her husband are loaded. They were 100% in for every Republican ever. She told my mom today they're both voting for Hillary. My mom almost died. These are not winnable people. I 'm legit shocked.
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This is my mom this election. She despises Hillary and when she said she was voting for her I nearly fell down.

What sent her over the edge is the disrespect to the disabled reporter, as kind of the big shocking moment (also the hate towards immigrants). My mom works as a Special Education teacher for a school with a high migrant population (mostly farm field workers), so it really hit home with her this time around. First time I think she has ever voted for a Democrat.
 
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kirblar

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adam387 said:
My aunt is a rich white lady in a deep red state. She and her husband are loaded. They were 100% in for every Republican ever. She told my mom today they're both voting for Hillary. My mom almost died. These are not winnable people. I 'm legit shocked.
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Trump's numbers collapse in Red States means he's bleeding hard-Rs at this point.
 
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Black Mamba

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adam387 said:
My aunt is a rich white lady in a deep red state. She and her husband are loaded. They were 100% in for every Republican ever. She told my mom today they're both voting for Hillary. My mom almost died. These are not winnable people. I 'm legit shocked.
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I can't find any of the well-off, white people voting for Trump in Cali, anymore. People who voted for him in the primary seemed to have switched to Hillary.

I mean, I don't know any racist, sexist GOP voters out here because I won't associate with them. But I will always come across "Give me tax cuts" well-off people who always vote GOP to get that tax cut.

They're voting Hillary from what I know. It's quite remarkable. I think there's at least a big potential for Hillary to win bigger than the polls think if enthusiasm for Trump continues to drop, inevitability sets it, and late breakers go Hillary.
 
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Hazmat

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BobTheFork said:
There is whatever value on the rules that you place on them. They can care about it or not, but I don't want to see them pretend to care and then just do the same thing.
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They can only be shown to not care if they have the ability to either put an end to it forever or gerrymander the map in their favor for the next ten years and they choose the latter. I don't like the designated hitter rule in baseball, but I sure as shit don't want the Astros to take a moral stand and send the pitcher up to bat because of their principles.

I'm all for both sides disarming, but this is important and people's lives, rights, and futures are on the line. I don't want to play for the principled team that loses every game.
 
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NYCmetsfan

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Cesare Borgia said:
Personally I don't believe democrats are serious about gerrymander reform anymore than republicans are serious about term limits.
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I absolutely do but its only post 2010. Dems are never gonna have a house majority for a generation.

I will say its not gonna happen in MD or IL until they reverse a lot of the PA, OH, NCs
 
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NYCmetsfan

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Hazmat said:
They can only be shown to not care if they have the ability to either put an end to it forever or gerrymander the map in their favor for the next ten years and they choose the latter. I don't like the designated hitter rule in baseball, but I sure as shit don't want the Astros to take a moral stand and send the pitcher up to bat because of their principles.

I'm all for both sides disarming, but this is important and people's lives, rights, and futures are on the line. I don't want to play for the principled team that loses every game.
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Gerrymandering reform is gonna come from Republican states (Constitutional Amendments and court decisions) not one side disarming.

But this idea is also harmful because it sees everything as zero sum which further incentives hardlines.
 
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kevin1025

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"Where are my generals? C'mere." The two generals then stand PERFECTLY behind the teleprompters so you can't see their faces, haha.
 
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User 463088

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Paches said:
This is my mom this election. She despises Hillary and when she said she was voting for her I nearly fell down.

What sent her over the edge is the disrespect to the disabled reporter, as kind of the big shocking moment (also the hate towards immigrants). My mom works as a Special Education teacher for a school with a high migrant population (mostly farm field workers), so it really hit home with her this time around. First time I think she has ever voted for a Democrat.
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My mom was a special ed teacher in a heavy migrant population school too! :)
 
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Suikoguy

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NYCmetsfan said:
Gerrymandering reform is gonna come from Republican states (Constitutional Amendments and court decisions) not one side disarming.
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FL did it via amendment a couple elections ago.
 
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RustyNails

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Red Dead Redemption 2 being announced is the biggest and best story of the year. Trump can go win the election, I dont care. I'll be playing this game for the next 4 years!!
 
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kevin1025

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RustyNails said:
Red Dead Redemption 2 being announced is the biggest and best story of the year. Trump can go win the election, I dont care. I'll be playing this game for the next 4 years!!
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I just hope Trump doesn't end the world on November 9th. I want my PS4 Pro on the 10th.

But yes, Red Dead is incredible news!
 
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