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PoliGAF 2016 |OT13| For Queen and Country

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BSsBrolly

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As tired of this campaign as I may be, I'll still be watching tomorrow night. It'll be three years before we get to see any other Presidential debates. And I want to watch history.

But after the election is over and things calm down, I'll be drastically cutting my intake of 2016 news and entertainment. I've had enough of this year.

Same... god it's been rough and extremely stressful. Between Ted Cruz and Donald Trump, I'm had my fill.
 
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‏@BraddJaffy
Per @KatyTurNBC, there are more Trump surprise guests in store for the debate, in addition to Obama's half-brother & Benghazi mom Pat Smith


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Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice responded Tuesday to a resurfaced report from 2006 that Donald Trump called her a "bitch" in a speech, telling CNN's KFile in an email that she "can't wait until November 9!"

Condi voting Hillary confirmed.
 
I still say he probably would have beat Hillary had he won the nomination. That is not me endorsing Kasich btw, simply me making a call based on polling and favorables. PoliGAF likes to poo-poo any suggestion that Hillary is beatable so I expect to be called out on this.

that doesn't really work, because you're imagining a scenario where magically everyone else running in the republican primary up and dies, and kasich is handed the nomination without having to pander to the worst people on the planet in order to survive the primary process.

There is a REASON moderates find it nearly impossible to get through the primary process- and those that do are forced rightward, damaging their electability in the general.

A kasich that made it to the general doesn't HAVE the favorables you're using to determine that he could "absolutely" beat clinton.
 
I still say he probably would have beat Hillary had he won the nomination. That is not me endorsing Kasich btw, simply me making a call based on polling and favorables. PoliGAF likes to poo-poo any suggestion that Hillary is beatable so I expect to be called out on this.

Yeah, but thats again when no one really knows about him. I mean I liked him too as best of the rest when he was still in, thinking I would feel ok with either him or Hill as president. He played the whole "gee whiz" positive guy so well. Then you look below the surface.
 
because he did terribly in the primaries? lol

2020 GOP nom will go to someone who didn't run this year. I am calling early predictions of Ben Sasse being the leader in Jan '20

The Trump fans will have either jumped ship, or be ready to try for a win. I think the GOP will lock down their nomination process to avoid Trump 2.0
 
There are Trump steaks, Trump golf courses and a mens' fragrance called "Success by Trump."

But Donald J. Trump's latest business venture is conspicuously missing the one thing brandished on everything from casinos to pearl-encrusted table lamps: His name.

The presidential candidate's newest line of hotels is to be called Scion, offering an alternative to Trump Hotels, the line of luxury properties where a one-night stay can cost upwards of $20,000.

The announcement by the Trump Organization comes as marketing and travel experts have suggested the Republican candidate's bombastic rhetoric and polarizing presidential campaign has tarnished his businesses.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-trump-hotels-scion-20161018-story.html

BWAHAHA!
 

Joeytj

Banned
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Condi voting Hillary confirmed.

Of course she's voting Hillary.

But her endorsement wouldn't do much.

Colin Powell endorsing would, especially after those leaked emails haha.

I wouldn't be surprised if Powell endorsed Hillary, despite what he's said about her in his emails. He seemed opened to the idea and even hinted at it, even though he wasn't happy with the Clinton campaign in general and how Hillary handled her emails.

He probably wasn't going to endorse in this election, but Trump most likely convinced him to wait until after the debate to drop his endorsement and just shit all over Trump.
 

shiba5

Member
Why doesn't the debate commission tell Trump he can't pull his little stunts? It's a farce.
I'm not going to bother watching it.
 

HylianTom

Banned
Losing Texas would take away the GOP fantasy of "all conservatives move to Texas and secede!"
("Let's all move to Alabama" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.)

And we'd get to watch conservatives in Texas melt-down, trying to figure out who the traitors in the midst are..
 
Losing Texas would take away the GOP fantasy of "all conservatives move to Texas and secede!"
("Let's all move to Alabama" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.)

And we'd get to watch conservatives in Texas melt-down, trying to figure out who the traitors in the midst are..

I would love to see Texas go blue. Hell, even putting it in "swing state" territory absolutely ends that party.
 

Joeytj

Banned
That's an interesting situation. I wonder if the US leveraged something, or Ecuador is trying to stay on the US's good side ahead of time.



Which is odd, because Hillary doesn't care.

Ecuador (like the rest of Latin America) hates it when foreign powers interfere in their politics, but also vice versa. Assange is now actively and openly interfering in U.S. elections, and Ecuador doesn't want to get into trouble because of it.

Besides, Correa (Ecuador president) is apparently nice with Clinton and hates Trump.
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
I got a Trump campaign flyer in the mail today. No images of Trump on it. Only Ivanka. This is PA.

My MIL (lives in GA) said people should be nicer to Trump and give him a chance because Ivanka is so pretty and she would be very presidential in the future.
 
Losing Texas would take away the GOP fantasy of "all conservatives move to Texas and secede!"
("Let's all move to Alabama" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.)

And we'd get to watch conservatives in Texas melt-down, trying to figure out who the traitors in the midst are..

Don't forget about the planned 'Patriot Compound' in Idaho once Texas gets one too many yoga studios.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2013/behind-walls
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AndyD

aka andydumi
That's an interesting situation. I wonder if the US leveraged something, or Ecuador is trying to stay on the US's good side ahead of time.



Which is odd, because Hillary doesn't care.

I think the fact that Wikileaks is less and less impartial is eroding the "journalism" claim under which he got asylum. So the more that's undermined the more their ability to hold him is threatened and so they would lose face.
 
I still think Kasich would be winning if he was the nominee. Can't really predict the future, and unless the GOP significantly alters their primary schedule I can't imagine Kasich winning the nomination.

One thing I do feel confident about: Paul Ryan's career will be in the tank by early 2020. He's not built to be a Speaker, and assuming democrats retake the senate and cut the republican House lead he'll be in the same position that Boehner was in: forced to work with democrats to keep government open, raise the debt ceiling, pass some basic legislation, etc. Boehner got through in part due to his personality and experience. Ryan doesn't really have either benefit and will continue to struggle. And by late 2019 after two Clinton SC picks and various executive orders he'll have no accomplishments outside of angering the base.

(That being said I do expect Ryan to be more open to working with Clinton on some legislation. I'd expect some type of tax reform bill for instance, including lowering the corporate tax rate.).
 

teiresias

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One thing I think is "good" (if I can use the term in this context) about Trump's increasingly spastic response concerning "voter fraud" is that it nearly all but signals there will be no conciliatory concession speech the evening of the election.

The reason I say this is "good" is that it will be refreshing that the GOP nominee doesn't play lip service to "working with the President-elect to better the country" in a concession speech, when we all know, and as has been broadcast by congressional Republicans, that there will be no working with President Hillary Clinton, but rather obstruction and even attempts to delegitimatize her election victory. Let the GOP own what their behavior will be for the next four years or more and don't try and sugar coat what will be complete ass-hattery on the side of the GOP in congress.
 

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
-- can't believe the Media is getting suckered into yet another okeefe video boondoggle. I can't roll my eyes hard enough.

-- trump is bound and determined to drag this thing as low into the gutter as possible. He's brining Obama's half-brother? Aaaaaand?

-- we're not getting Texas.

-- everyone knows this last debate is a trap, right?

-- next Hillary oppo dump in 3, 2, ...
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Losing Texas would take away the GOP fantasy of "all conservatives move to Texas and secede!"
("Let's all move to Alabama" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.)

And we'd get to watch conservatives in Texas melt-down, trying to figure out who the traitors in the midst are..

If Texas went blue, all we'd hear for the next four years was how the election was rigged.
 

Veelk

Banned
You know, I'm sure that Clinton did research and that there is more shit on Trump that exists, but it's always been my impression that the campaign literally holding oppo bombs and only releasing them at ideal moments seem a little less than realistic. It's far more likely that that just happened to be the time that the media got the 'grab them by the pussy' video and it just coincided with the second debate. Like, do we have any actual proof that the Clinton campaign is playing this kind of massive game? That these are things that the media couldn't have just figured out itself?

Though if another scandal is dropped 3-5 hours before the third debate, I guess even I'll have to suspect that they are just that master strategists.
 
You know, I'm sure that Clinton did research and that there is more shit on Trump that exists, but it's always been my impression that the campaign literally holding oppo bombs and only releasing them at ideal moments seem a little less than realistic. It's far more likely that that just happened to be the time that the media got the 'grab them by the pussy' video and it just coincided with the second debate. Like, do we have any actual proof that the Clinton campaign is playing this kind of massive game? That these are things that the media couldn't have just figured out itself?

Though if another scandal is dropped 3-5 hours before the third debate, I guess even I'll have to suspect that they are just that master strategists.
both campaigns knew about the 05 video. the HRC campaign had an ad ready and everything lol.
 

HylianTom

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I forgot how much Dave Foley and the guys from Kids in the Hall defined my teenage years. I thought this shout-out to Al Franken was great
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Same.

A Kids in the Hall marathon is at the top of my to-do list for post-election entertainment. Then, it'll be time for our household's annual Mr Bean marathon (we always save that for the weeks leading up to Christmas).

(I was tickled to see Dave wanting to help Franken..)


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"Mr Trump? It is highly advised that you STAY DOWN!"
 

Zukkoyaki

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There's something seriously wrong with all of these 50-state polls and I mean all of them. Getting results like.

- PA tied
- Trump winning every swing state
- Texas tied
- Clinton winning Georgia
- Clinton winning Missouri and Kansas
- Trump ahead in Vermont

I wish outlets would stop doing them but they're stellar click-bait
 
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