I don't think it was ever about swaying the deplorables. They're with him till the end.
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I don't think it was ever about swaying the deplorables. They're with him till the end.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Obama's half brother is an abuser and supports Hamas.
This is such a confusing idea on Trump's part.
This is such a confusing idea on Trump's part.
davepoobond
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He has other brothers and sisters who are mostly cool with him. He's particularly close with his half sister Auma.
One of the other brothers lives in abject poverty and was interviewed and refused to say a bad word about Barack.
He's putting his credibility on the line (it's not like Clinton's hurting and we need more oppo anyway), and three weeks is more than enough time for two massive oppo bombs.
There's really no need for more "oppo". The women accusing Trump of sexual harassment aren't going away and there's very likely going to be more.
What I do think is going to happen, is that the Hillary campaign will find another target for Trump to lash against. Every time, it's been a combination of immigrant, minority or woman.
I'm guessing she might mention his horrible comments about Native Americans looking "too white" to be real "indians" and therefore didn't deserve tax breaks for their casinos.
Randolph Freelander
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An affair for Trump wouldn't be a big deal. Unless. . .
The family member being his son-in-law.
I'm certain Trump is going to try to use his ethics proposal tomorrow to attack Hillary on corruption. I hope she's got a good response.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/trump-details-ethics-reform-plan
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/trump-details-ethics-reform-plan
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That's washing over the truth tbh. She married a guy who was friendly with much of the media alongside his TV show and powerful left leaning celebrities and officials. The media didn't hate them and he wasn't spewing racism on a political platform and asking her to give speeches to back it up alongside her child. He wasn't insulting all of the core values of their circle and tweeting shit, let alone at 3am. No, he wasn't a darling, but he was a personality instead of a scandalous symbol of graceless disrespect.
That may be the plan, but his debating skills descend into word-salad so quickly and deeply, I don't know if he'll be able to press her on anything that isn't emails or Benghazi.
Regarding Melania, I can see her filing for divorce not long after the election.
The apprentice were able to snippet out Trump's nastier aspects of his personality. Otherwise, he was always an awful human being as Frontline explains how he became the mysgonistic bully he is today.
Trump was always a racist, he denied housing vacancies for black folks and then he wanted to persecute several innocent people for the color of their skin.
Trump was always a racist, he denied housing vacancies for black folks and then he wanted to persecute several innocent people for the color of their skin.
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I don't think people are arguing that he wasn't always a dick on his own time, but that wasn't the focus of his public image while he was hosting his celebrity fueled charity show. And I'd imagine that change in public perception has had a rough impact on his wife.
Aaron Strife
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There's that family ruining oppo for youAn affair for Trump wouldn't be a big deal. Unless. . .
Drop the bomb, WaPo
Beer Monkey
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You don't get to roll out a new platform three weeks before the election. You can try, but everybody knows it's bullshit.
I hope you're right, but the debate is the perfect place to tell 50 million people who haven't heard about it, and bash your opponent for alleged corruption at the same time.
You know it's bullshit, but will voters come to the same conclusion? Especially since he's made such an consistent effort to associate the word "Crooked" with "Hillary", and how so many voters (perhaps unfairly) still think Clinton is dishonest and untrustworthy.
I realize it's probably a Hail Mary desperation move, but I just want Hillary to be able to smack it down when he brings it up.
A Link to the Past
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I got megasick from an asthma attack today, but it thankfully seems to be getting better. I would be darned bummed if I had to miss the last debate.
Quadrophenic
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I'm probably way behind on this, but is the Frontline feature you're referring to available online anywhere to watch?
bangbang i'm a timpani
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I watched the Melania interview and feel bad for her
She doesn't seem like a vile person like her husband and seems like she's just stuck in a mess of a support system as her family. Idk like he's probably stressful and embarrassing and just thinking about her day to day life lately as a mom married to Trump sounds like it has to have massive downsides that probably aren't easy to just drop everything and divorce out of. Like I bet her and Hillary had some cute greetings here and there before these campaigns happened. I bet Melania would get nice hugs from Michelle Obama if the Trump campaign weren't a screaming baby with feces leaking down its back from its diaper
she willingly bought into this, she isn't some innocent naive person who was forced into crazy racism land.
shinra-bansho
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400 pound guy in a basement.
I believe it's available for free on PBS's site. I couldn't confirm if it was the two hour version or trailer however due to region locking.
Spiritreaver
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Manmademan
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Looks like +10 hillary is looking like the new normal and not some kind of outlier.
There goes the house!
cartoon_soldier
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At this point I don't think anything else exists.
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shinra-bansho
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Can't even adjusted leader a horserace.
Trump is behind in both by 9. Wonderful.
Also wonderful. Funny to see lardo was as high as 70% at one point.
SirRattleBalls
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Every time Trump talks , he give Hilary points. Its insane .. is it to late for him to get a new campaign manager ?? It's going to be a slaughter at the polls.
cartoon_soldier
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How does this lead to legal trouble? How stupid is Joe.
I agree that someone else would have been able to take much better advantage of the leak information.
Eh they tried for a long long time with this it wasnt just Trump at all.
It just didnt work like everything else they tried.
cartoon_soldier
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It could have worked if you have an actual campaign and when you aren't busy defending why you would or would not grab someone by the pussy.
sazzy
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He was also implying early in the show that Donald is kinda the overall winner since he doesn't want to be President anyway and that this is just an audition for his TV network.
Anyway.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exclusive-rubio-talk-wikileaks-donald-trump/story?id=42895586
cartoon_soldier
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Look at what Obama campaign was able to do with Binders full of women.
Bloody hell, Rubio being reasonable and non-partisan? Either he's found some principles or he must have once confessed in an email that he is the real killer of Benjamin Ghazi.
That didn't actually sway anyone.
nature boy
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Folks it's still dead heat with the margin of error /s
sazzy
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Donald is bringing Obama;s half brother.
Hillary is bringing Mark Cuban and that HP woman.
Donald surprises with
Hillary surprises with
Donald launches bombshell:
Hillary launches bombshell:
Hillary is bringing Mark Cuban and that HP woman.
Donald surprises with
Bill's alleged son.
Hillary surprises with
all the ~15 or so women who have accused Donald of sexual assault.
Donald launches bombshell:
Monica Lewinsky
Tiffany Trump
Manmademan
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There's the LA Times/USC thing, but that barely counts as a poll.
And yes, +9 or +10 is absolutely enough to take back the house...Wang was saying +7 could have done it a few months ago. but these polls aren't taking into account the complete absence of any GOTV effort or ground game from the Trump campaign.
Most assumptions have demographic turnout equal to or less than 2012 levels, when everything we've seen from early voting and registration numbers says this is going to be EXTREMELY lopsided in favor of democrats.
These +9 and +10 numbers are absolutely lowball numbers and you're going to see a lot of "safe" seats and "close" races turn into wipeouts for the GOP.
In the generic house ballot it should be, but that has been lagging behind so we'd probably need something closer to 12 for Hillary.
Manmademan
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Generic house ballot doesn't matter. Actual house race results for 2008 and 2012 had a near 90% correlation between presidential vote and house vote...polarization means ticket splitting is dead.
If turnout hits +9 or +10 it's simply too much for seats that are R+6 or below. those seats are gone.
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