balladofwindfishes
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It's like 2012 all over again... how do they keep letting this happen
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It's like 2012 all over again... how do they keep letting this happen
User 463088
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I'm usually really conservative in my estimate on things. Just because...I'm a chickenshit liberal.
However, I'm not seeing how we don't win Florida. We have a huge ground advantage. We have favorable demographics. We have a huge new registration advantage. I just...it's hard for me to find a path where Trump wins Florida. But, I don' twant to fuck it up!
So FUCK OMG WE'RE LOSING FUCK!
gutter_trash
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Morning Joe is night & day in comparaison with MSNBC's nightly coverage
i am really liking Brian Williams' 11th Hour and hearing Shmidt confirm that Trump is a sinking Titanic who struck the iceberg at Debate 1
i am really liking Brian Williams' 11th Hour and hearing Shmidt confirm that Trump is a sinking Titanic who struck the iceberg at Debate 1
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Like the Fox News poll that had a 4-point swing favoring sampled republicans, but still showed Trump only gain one point and still down huge?
If he hit the iceberg at Debate 1, he quickly sank, hit an explosive mine, sunk further and drifted straight into a underwater volcano by now.
I'm usually really conservative in my estimate on things. Just because...I'm a chickenshit liberal.
However, I'm not seeing how we don't win Florida. We have a huge ground advantage. We have favorable demographics. We have a huge new registration advantage. I just...it's hard for me to find a path where Trump wins Florida. But, I don' twant to fuck it up!
So FUCK OMG WE'RE LOSING FUCK!
Plouffe already said 12 repeat today means a win of at least 2.5pts on demographic drift alone.
I never had a doubt about Florida since Rubio and CRUZ dropped.
I'm keeping notes on whom to follow on Election Night twitter, and Bill Mitchell has become an absolute must. He seems metaphysically certain of Trump's impending victory..
And her re-election bid gets incrementally easier as a result of this drift.
djplaeskool
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Imma kick back and let the Rovian meltdowns wash over me on election night.
TheLostBigBoss
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dumb people think there is an outside force for their failures in life
look online for reasons why
Jews control the world omgwtf
metalslimer
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Pretty sure all the fox news hosts know Trump is going to lose unlike 2012 so they won't be as fun to watch.
Got to watch Grover Norquist as well. He'll be ranting about his vaping rights being taken away from him.
Fragamemnon
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Grover randomly going off on vape rights has been one of the highlights of this election.
I'm honestly surprised people are still anti-semitic in 2016. It feels like one of those things that should've died out in the mid-20th century, like racism towards the Irish.
User 463088
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I still have this weird idea in my HEAD CANNON that Trump is going to drop out like 2 days before the election. He'll do some "It's rigged folks. It's rigged. And I am not going to have my name associated with a rigged system." It lets him explain away his loss (It was rigged and I wasn't even trying!)
TheLostBigBoss
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Personally, I think Clinton has been like a cat playing around with a mouse for entertainment for the last month.
I think tonight is going to be the kill
TumblingHippo
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"Trump is doing well in the polls."
"But the polls show he's losing."
"But he's getting 30+ percent!"
Surrogates were a mistake
"But the polls show he's losing."
"But he's getting 30+ percent!"
Surrogates were a mistake
RastaMentality
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his supporters don't. the victory/concession rally will be more entertaining than whitepeoplemournromney when the swing states start coming in.
metalslimer
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Kellyanne is on msnbc now and claims that Trump is making the larger point of an overall corrupt system lol.
I'm usually really conservative in my estimate on things. Just because...I'm a chickenshit liberal.
However, I'm not seeing how we don't win Florida. We have a huge ground advantage. We have favorable demographics. We have a huge new registration advantage. I just...it's hard for me to find a path where Trump wins Florida. But, I don' twant to fuck it up!
So FUCK OMG WE'RE LOSING FUCK!
My wife and I are doing out part and voting early on Monday after work. So fucking excited to vote, turn Florida blue again and therefore bury the orange menace.
gutter_trash
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that is why I preffer Team Clinton going on offense turning Red states purple to force Team Trump to play defense and hunker down
Carpe Carnim
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It was lost in the Locker Room talk and Pussy-grabbin' fiasco, but the Trump-Cuba affair was an inflection point in certain Miami enclaves. The enclaves that do a lot of the GOPs GOTV heavy-lifting
Check out Hialeah, the Cuban Mecca of Miami-Dade, voter registration
Fragamemnon
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They've got the entire GOP chained to Trump and tonight is where they put Trump in concrete boots and toss him in the water, hoping the rest of the party finally sinks with him. She's going to hammer him relentlessly on fitness for office and his crazy conspiracy theories he keeps repeating.
gutterboy44
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I will be curious to see how much of a rebranding, if any Fox News does after the election. They pretty much single handedly set the tone of the GOP, so where they go, the party follows. They tore in to Trump during the primaries before he was a lock, I expect them to turn on him pretty quick after he tanks the election and several down ballot races. Hannity probably has to go, but I am sure he is already doing lighting tests on Trump's new network.
balladofwindfishes
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At some point we're going to hit the cap at what is realistically possible for a win percentage.
TheLostBigBoss
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User 463088
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I'm going to repeat this again, because I still think it's right. I don't think Hillary is going to go out there and just tear him apart. That's not her strategy. The thing she has going for her, more than anything else, is that she's seen as having the right temperament to be President. Getting in the mud with Donald won't help her with that.
If anything, she'll do the happy warrior thing of the 1st debate. That's where she shines, but I feel like 99% of that was Trump imploding. She had a few good lines in there, and I'm sure she'll have a few more. But, the goal should be to stay looking Presidential. Let Donald flail around like a lunatic.
If anything, she'll do the happy warrior thing of the 1st debate. That's where she shines, but I feel like 99% of that was Trump imploding. She had a few good lines in there, and I'm sure she'll have a few more. But, the goal should be to stay looking Presidential. Let Donald flail around like a lunatic.
balladofwindfishes
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I meant percentage of the popular vote.
I think Hillary's cap is a 10% win. I don't think it can go much higher than that without something that drives deplorable turnout down
Of course, they face the same Paul Ryan dilemma that they already tried (and failed) to reckon with in the primary: if they pivot to "the better way," their base will reject it en masse and flock to Trump News Network.
TheLostBigBoss
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You can still do this while putting the preverbal dagger and getting in some great one liners of tough tone.
"Donald, I don't think you're unfit to be President, I know you're unfit to be President".
Shit like that imo
RastaMentality
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Florida I reckon will be 8.4-8.6m total votes, hovering at 70% turnout. Hispanics may push this higher.
She'll bleed -1120k amongst white voters which will be cancelled out entirely by AA and Asian/Other demo. Hispanics to carry her through to 400k+ vote margin of victory.
It's so done.
She'll bleed -1120k amongst white voters which will be cancelled out entirely by AA and Asian/Other demo. Hispanics to carry her through to 400k+ vote margin of victory.
It's so done.
TheLostBigBoss
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same numbers apply
Fragamemnon
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Honestly we're just about there. Trump can maybe lose one more point before hitting a hard floor.
This is the last major scheduled event of the campaign before Election Night. We're here. 20 days.
A few possible events left:
- endorsements (Poppa Bush or Powell for Hillary? Romney for McMuffin?)
- the mythical oppo
- possible final infomercial
- remaining Wiki bombs?
- mega campaign events with Hillary and her all-stars on stage together
After a certain point, the coverage will turn to get out the vote bits or interest, Dixville Notch, and logistics. I'm getting a bit excited.
A few possible events left:
- endorsements (Poppa Bush or Powell for Hillary? Romney for McMuffin?)
- the mythical oppo
- possible final infomercial
- remaining Wiki bombs?
- mega campaign events with Hillary and her all-stars on stage together
After a certain point, the coverage will turn to get out the vote bits or interest, Dixville Notch, and logistics. I'm getting a bit excited.
NYCmetsfan
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Mailing my ballot out today. Hoping Murphy pulls it out. Local government is getting ruined by the gop. They're locking in their power in a deep blue county
metalslimer
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Its glorious. This might be the worst wreckage yet
It does sound like the Murdochs are expanding the news side of Fox News in a big way, and doing little or nothing new with the opinion side.
Hannity is contracted with Fox until 2020. O'Reilly and Megyn Kelly's contracts expire next year. My guess is they get Kelly to re-up, and O'Reilly retires.
Even worse than Pussy vs Scottie?
Its pretty great
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