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PoliGAF 2016 |OT13| For Queen and Country

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Google tells me "-mente" is the common adverb ending in Spanish, so "grandemente" would be comparable to "bigly" (although it also translates to "greatly" which is an actual word that humans use).
 

sazzy

Member
*Access Hollywood tapes come out*

It was locker room talk!

He only bragged about it!

He never did it!

*women come forward and accuse Donald of sexually assaulting them*

They're lying!

No one believes them!

They're Clinton supporters!

*more women come accuse Donald*

Why now?

This is politically motivated!

Plus there's no proof!

*corroborating witnesses to at least 2 women come forward*

Clinton is running a smear campaign!

This is pathetic!

*new Bill Clinton accuser comes forward on breitbart on the day of the 3rd debate*

SEE BILL CLINTON IS A RAPIST
 
That Clinton's firewall is all the way back to super-safe MN on the snake graph is hilarious.

I know the Presidential race is starting to lock in and the Senate is much lean-D now, but a good performance for Hillary (and Trump implosion) would do a lot toward keeping the D momentum to take the house. So it's not like there isn't a lot to play for.

Was thinking "la ultima grande" for "bigly" but that's more "biggest" I guess? Grandemente does sounds great!
 

Joe

Member
Crooked liberal media!

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NeoXChaos

Member
Kansas made that bed of shit. Let them continue to lie in in. Maybe they are determined to race Mississippi to the bottom.

Historically, Kansas has been strongly Republican, dating from the Antebellum age when the Republican Party was created out of the movement opposing the extension of slavery into Kansas Territory. Kansas has not elected a Democrat to the U.S. Senate since the 1932 election, when Franklin D. Roosevelt won his first term as President in the wake of the Great Depression. This is the longest Senate losing streak for either party in a single state.

The only non-Republican presidential candidates Kansas has given its electoral vote to are Populist James Weaver and Democrats Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt (twice), and Lyndon Johnson.

The Democrats have won control of the Kansas Senate only in the 1912 election and control of the Kansas House only three times in the 1912, 1976, and 1990 elections. Since the 1968 election Kansas has consistently voted for the Republican Presidential candidate and since 1860 has voted for the Republican presidential candidate 20 times, the Democrat six times and the Populist candidate once.

At least MS had a long Democratic voting streak.
 
Please tell me Cotton isn't running in 2020.

He's gonna run to challenge Hillary Clintons feckless foreign policy that's emboldened our enemies. Tom Cotton and served on the front lines and knows more than Washington bureaucrats on how to keep america safe and defeat our enemies.
 

Doc Holliday

SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Not dooming and glooming, but I think this will be a tough night for Clinton.

Trump is going to be even more unhinged and she also has to deal with a FOX host. Trump we nt answer any questions and Wallace probably won't call him out on it.

Wallace is not your typical Fox reporter/interview. He's tough but fair for the most part. He will follow on Trumps and Clinton's answers.
 
Kansas made that bed of shit. Let them continue to lie in in. Maybe they are determined to race Mississippi to the bottom.

These types of comments make me wonder why people are liberals?

I understand frustration and anger at policies and actions but if it just becomes "well fuck them" then what is the defining philosophy? help everyone or just the people who helped me?
 

Grief.exe

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The weird thing about Kansas is it is in the top 15 for High School graduate and Bachelors Degree per capita.

Generally that would translate into a Democratic stronghold. I wonder if the correlation is high oil/natural gas employment, which tend to lean Republican.

My guess is also low diversity numbers and high rates of religion is driving up those numbers, but those are assumptions as I haven't looked up those particular demographics.
 

Paskil

Member
Trump, you have one shot. One opportunity remaining to call Hillary a
cunt
. Don't miss your chance to seize everything you ever wanted.
 

Hilbert

Deep into his 30th decade
I would go with Bigote for bigly in spanish. "Ote" suffix implies big, english word "big" as the prefix, because it is a stupid choice by people that can't speak the language well, and it means mustache, for added confusion.
 
He's gonna run to challenge Hillary Clintons feckless foreign policy that's emboldened our enemies. Tom Cotton and served on the front lines and knows more than Washington bureaucrats on how to keep america safe and defeat our enemies.

Cotton took a risk with that shit-show letter he was the front-man for. If our Iranian relationship stays muted, or gets slightly better in the next 4 years, his "OMG NUKEZ" argument gets shoved down his throat in 2020. Besides being a standard neo-con fluffer, what else does he have going for him?
 

Wilsongt

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These types of comments make me wonder why people are liberals?

I understand frustration and anger at policies and actions but if it just becomes "well fuck them" then what is the defining philosophy? help everyone or just the people who helped me?

It comes from a place of frustration. Kansasans probably saw what was happening in their state, yet people were too complacent to sit and vote for another choice and kept the status quo. It happened in Kentucky, also.

It's like there are people who like seeing their state throw itself down the toilet for nonsense reasons.
 

gaugebozo

Member
Crooked liberal media!
Morning Joe was the worst yesterday with this. "Maybe Trump is right, and we don't spend enough time on Hillary. He does this stuff all the time, it's not news anymore." Like, there's a dumpster fire everyday, things that would end most campaigns. But no, let's hear about Hillary's connection to something she's not connected to.
 

Paskil

Member
Cotton took a risk with that shit-show letter he was the front-man for. If our Iranian relationship stays muted, or gets slightly better in the next 4 years, his "OMG NUKEZ" argument gets shoved down his throat in 2020. Besides being a standard neo-con fluffer, what else does he have going for him?

Tom Cotton would be an even less compelling candidate than Lindsey Graham.
 
Cotton took a risk with that shit-show letter he was the front-man for. If our Iranian relationship stays muted, or gets slightly better in the next 4 years, his "OMG NUKEZ" argument gets shoved down his throat in 2020. Besides being a standard neo-con fluffer, what else does he have going for him?

I can see that being a almost trump like issue with trade and "rigged" this cycle in 2020.

Very easy to pin troubles on appeasement rather than "standing up for america", very popular with GOP voters. And his opponents aren't going to be able to attack him from the left on this because they support the same macho policy.

He's gotta pick a fight on a domestic issue during the clinton years. I expect one right before the midterms and he'll oppose any legislation that mcconnell might be amiable to
 

Maledict

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Please tell me Cotton isn't running in 2020.

He is absolutely running. He already has events booked in Iowa for next year.

The Economist had a really bad profile of him last week, where they tried to use him as an example of what a post-Trump republican might look like, and in every area they ended up saying 'traditional republican stance, but double down on crazy opposition to everything democratic'. Felt like I was reading a Paul Ryan article - journalists are *so* desperate to find a republican politician with ideas and morals they are reaching for anyone,
 

gaugebozo

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I can see that being a almost trump like issue with trade and "rigged" this cycle in 2020.

Very easy to pin troubles on appeasement rather than "standing up for america" very popular with GOP voters who aren't going to be able to attack him from the left.

He's gotta pick a fight on a domestic issue during the clinton years. I expect one right before the midterms and he'll oppose any legislation that mcconnell might be amiable to
This is an awful but correct way to view things. We're never getting anywhere because tomorrow's GOP stars have to make names for themselves.
 
It comes from a place of frustration. Kansasans probably saw what was happening in their state, yet people were too complacent to sit and vote for another choice and kept the status quo. It happened in Kentucky, also.

It's like there are people who like seeing their state throw itself down the toilet for nonsense reasons.

Saying "screw them they deserve it" isn't frustration. Its anger and revenge.

There are a lot of great people in Kansas, even people who voted for Brownback and they shouldn't be ignored.
 

Joe

Member
Please tell me Cotton isn't running in 2020.

He's gonna run to challenge Hillary Clintons feckless foreign policy that's emboldened our enemies. Tom Cotton and served on the front lines and knows more than Washington bureaucrats on how to keep america safe and defeat our enemies.

Cotton took a risk with that shit-show letter he was the front-man for. If our Iranian relationship stays muted, or gets slightly better in the next 4 years, his "OMG NUKEZ" argument gets shoved down his throat in 2020. Besides being a standard neo-con fluffer, what else does he have going for him?

Tom Cotton would be an even less compelling candidate than Lindsey Graham.
Economist article from this week about Cotton running in 2020:

Growing Cotton in Iowa
An ambitious young senator offers a revealing glimpse of a post-Trump Republican Party

For a tough dilemma confronts Republicans. Full-blown Trumpism—a retro creed that blends America First nationalism, paranoia worthy of Joseph McCarthy, George Wallace-style nativism and Hugh Hefner-ish lechery—is a recipe for losing a national election. Yet without those voters who hear and see a champion in Mr Trump, Republicans will struggle to win most other elections, whether to Congress or at state level.
Addressing the party faithful, moments later, Mr Cotton presented himself as a member of the generation moved by the patriotic spirit that America showed after the September 2001 terror attacks, leaving civilian careers to join the army and learn a “warrior ethos”. He combines that pitch with Trumpian vows to secure the border and reject a “new normal” that, he says, sees riots on the streets and “cops assassinated on the beat”, while sneering liberal elites “live behind high walls with armed guards”.
The challenge for his party, whatever the result in November, is to keep the new voters brought in by Mr Trump and to capture his populism, “but package it so it is more mainstream”,
 

Wilsongt

Member
Saying "screw them they deserve it" isn't frustration. Its anger and revenge.

There are a lot of great people in Kansas, even people who voted for Brownback and they shouldn't be ignored.

Stop making sense. :(

At least Cotton looks decent with a beard, unlike Ryan.
 
I can see that being a almost trump like issue with trade and "rigged" this cycle in 2020.

Very easy to pin troubles on appeasement rather than "standing up for america", very popular with GOP voters. And his opponents aren't going to be able to attack him from the left on this because they support the same macho policy.

He's gotta pick a fight on a domestic issue during the clinton years. I expect one right before the midterms and he'll oppose any legislation that mcconnell might be amiable to

Tactically, you make sense, but i'm wondering where the ~50% of the Trump voters who seem to lurve Stronk Putin land when they realize Iran is on the same page as Russia with respect to Syria?

I expect a bunch of 180° pivots depending on how Clinton is tacking on Syria and Iraq, that week. But the base flipping on a dime about not getting involved in more Warz, while at the same time nodding along with Kristol and Cotton that we must punish Iran, including sabre-rattling, will be bewildering
 
This is an awful but correct way to view things. We're never getting anywhere because tomorrow's GOP stars have to make names for themselves.

Our hope for things getting done runs through senators flake, mccain, and the women GOPers, Collins, Murkowski, Heller, Sullivan.

Purdue and Isakson might start moderating too with a bluer georgia
 
Tactically, you make sense, but i'm wondering where the ~50% of the Trump voters who seem to lurve Stronk Putin land when they realize Iran is on the same page as Russia with respect to Syria?

I expect a bunch of 180° pivots depending on how Clinton is tacking on Syria and Iraq, that week. But the base flipping on a dime about not getting involved in more Warz, while at the same time nodding along with Kristol and Cotton that we must punish Iran, including sabre-rattling, will be bewildering

I don't think the trump base really cared about foreign policy. They'll morph to whatever promotes "(White) America Strong and First"

cotton is going to be a good trump 2.0.

Idk how the carries in the general though. Really the first two years are going to be key with SCOTUS and debt limit.
 
So you all telling me the 2020 Republican primaries are going to be shittier than 2016.

Trump proved there's a hard and fast 30%+ of the base you can mobilize around racism and populism. That djinn isn't going back in the bottle.
 

Emarv

Member
Hillary Clinton vs Tom Cotton could just be the exact same plot as House of Cards Season 4.

All Hillary needs to do is dump Kaine and put Bill on the ticket. Clinton/Clinton 2020!
 
Are new voter registrations being counted in the polls. Last I heard Florida Democrats were up half a million voter registrations and California it was one million. Are there numbers for other states?
 

Maledict

Member
So you all telling me the 2020 Republican primaries are going to be shittier than 2016.

It does amuse me how back in 2015 all we were hearing was how amazingly strong and deep the republican bench was, how much talent there were was, and how it showed the long term strength of the party.

What a shower of shit. None of them were capable of running even the bare bones of a decent campaign, even Cruz.
 

kadotsu

Banned
Like I said earlier, if Trump and the alt-right play their cards right they will at least be the kingmakers for the next GOP primary. Also 2018 will be very hard to lose for the GOP so any reflection will be thrown out.
 
Are new registration being counted in the polls. Last I heard Florida Democrats were up half a million voter registrations and California it was one million. Are there numbers for other states?

Depends on the polls' LV screen. Most don't count new voters in those models, but they Could be captured by RV models. The odd part is we are seeing smaller than usual splits between LV/RV which has been between 3-4% based on previous years' polls
 
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