Took a war to stop Slavery. Kennedy dying to stop segregation and Civil Rights. The South would have never gotten rid of those two without federal override.
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Took a war to stop Slavery. Kennedy dying to stop segregation and Civil Rights. The South would have never gotten rid of those two without federal override.
This debate won't move the needle unless one of them shits themselves or faints on stage.
I suspect Wallace will ask tough questions and follow up questions to both. I don't expect Clinton to have the best answers to every single one. But it's also about how you answer and time and again when Donald is pressed he feels it's a personal attack and lashes out.
It'll be interesting to see if he interrupts her again or if she says something that'll tick him off.
I suspect Wallace will ask tough questions and follow up questions to both. I don't expect Clinton to have the best answers to every single one. But it's also about how you answer and time and again when Donald is pressed he feels it's a personal attack and lashes out.
It'll be interesting to see if he interrupts her again or if she says something that'll tick him off.
whyamihere
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wait what why
He doesn't want to give his strategy away.
Roland_Gunner
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Mans got a business to run, right?
whyamihere
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hahahahahaha
CAVEAT:
CAVEAT:
30% chance he backs out
He's not there to debate. He's there to put on a reality TV show.
Just realized CBC is running their own poll for the election. Any good, poll guruz?
http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/uspolltracker/
http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/uspolltracker/
HanShotFirst
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Thanks for these answaers, Hopefully Democrats can Take back th eHouse even just barely.
Don't ask why. Only dreams.
eBay Huckster
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that's no poll, that's a rcp/huffpo-esque tracker (which naturally doesn't split ME/NE electoral votes because eric grenier is a mess)
Basileus777
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Too bad it's Emerson
Are we shocked? He's not there to debate. Just spew bullshit
Gotcha. Is the selection any good?
djplaeskool
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McMuffin killin it
I kinda wonder what the path to 270 looks like for Trump without Utah.
whyamihere
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Yup.
eBay Huckster
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eh. i'd stick with 538/PEC for forecasting needs, huffpost for polling needs
grenier's alright (his modeling for canadian elections has been...decent. paging gutter_trash), but he doesn't really add anything over any of the above
Merci.
Presenting his dick to Clinton just won't have the same shock factor if she's expecting it.
the first thirty mintues of the second debate was so bad to watch. Made me so anxious and nauseous.
gutter_trash
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seeing it on CBC makes it way less horseracey
nature boy
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Not sure why folks dismiss Emerson and don't trash 538 for the same shit (in principle):
Either way that will help McMullin.
Either way that will help McMullin.
Another great shot of energy and momentum for his campaign.
I will also be passing on the debate tonight. Too much going on and the last debate was just terrible to watch, especially those first 30 minutes.
brianmcdoogle
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Utah Clinton supporters should vote for McMullin considering the recent polling, no?
eBay Huckster
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no, they should vote for clinton given that utah is functionally worthless to anyone's win
If no one samples for it, how is he "estimating" it?
Wiz
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I'm hoping Chris Wallace keeps them on topic, but yeah, this debate has zero hype. Might have it on in the background
Isnt Emerson bad?
I think I had a knot in my stomach the whole time. Kept expecting him to call her a name.
DontBeThatGuy
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I'm completely avoiding seeing or hearing any of the debate, and will instead refresh NeoGAF like a mad man for updates.
No, McMullin winning Utah doesn't help Clinton as she needs 270 EVs to win. Denying Trump votes doesn't help her, as a no-one-gets-270 scenario sends the decision to the House and Trump wins in that case. That's situation is absurdly unlikely, but McMullin winning Utah doesn't help Clinton.
eBay Huckster
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like, if trump loses utah, then he's nowhere close to 270 to begin with
and if clinton needs utah to hit 270 then she's nowhere close to 270
so strategically it makes no goddamn sense
If Hillary doesn't get 270 without Utah then she already lost the election.
I'm prepared to be disappointed by Wallace. The narrative for the past few weeks has changed and the media is no longer in the tank for Trump. Also, his odds of winning are as small as his hands, so there's not much to "lose" by going in hard on Hillary.
She'll do fine and Trump will be dumb as usual, but I think we'll see a "Fair and balanced" debate.
She'll do fine and Trump will be dumb as usual, but I think we'll see a "Fair and balanced" debate.
Hobbestetrician
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And you will forever have to remember that you voted for a McMuffin for president.
BenjaminBirdie
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Here's a plug for the latest Trumpcast. Aimee Mann is on and she wrote a song from Trump's point of view. I love her so much.
http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/trumpcast/2016/10/the_song_inside_donald_trump_s_head.html
Yeah I posted that song like a week ago and nobody gave a rip. PoliGAF's darkest moment. It's fucking amazing.
cartoon_soldier
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God all these Trump shenanigans are worrying me. It's a hail mary.
eBay Huckster
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i'm pretty sure trump breathing would worry you if he didn't have to do it all the time
Carpe Carnim
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The path leads him around the side of the White House on his way to his failing hotel. No stops
Everything worries you.
nature boy
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Assometer. He's just guessing and making up numbers
DataStream
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I think Wallace will ask pointed questions about policy and surprise people with his follow through.
balladofwindfishes
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I was thinking the same thing, what if the Fox News debate ends up being the most substantial lol
I know that. That doesn't change the fact that it makes no sense for Clinton supporters in Utah to vote for McMullin. People ask this question because they think that taking the votes from Trump helps Clinton, I'm pointing out that it does not.
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