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PoliGAF 2016 |OT13| For Queen and Country

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Syncytia

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1. Garland will not be pulled after Hillary wins. He's going to be the next justice on the Supreme Court and that's a good thing. The ONLY chance he isn't appointed is if Republicans refuse to move forward in the lame-duck session and Garland himself decides Hillary should get her own pick and withdraws his name. And that's not likely.

I agree that this is probably how it will go down. But really, Democrats need to get some balls and stop trying to extend an olive branch to Republicans.

Republicans said the next president should choose the next Supreme Court justice.
Republicans won't even have a hearing on Garland.
McCain now publicly says they will block any nomination if Hillary is President.


They made their bed. They can lie in it.
 
IA Dems seem to be getting a bit more bullish now that the early vote numbers have recovered:

http://iowastartingline.com/2016/10/21/which-counties-have-the-best-absentee-rates-for-ds-and-rs/

Democrats still lag their 2012 numbers, but they’ve made up significant ground from their poor early data in September that worried activists. It has always been unlikely that Democrats will get the same number of early votes as they did when Barack Obama was on the ticket. They don’t need to either, considering Obama won Iowa by six points in 2012. They just have to get close. And 84% is getting pretty close. If they bump that up to around 90%, Hillary Clinton will be well within striking range of carrying Iowa.

Also interesting is how Democrats have slowly but steadily increased their percent over 2012 day by day. Republicans’ numbers have jumped around, largely due to the bulk of their absentee efforts coming from mailers. While Republicans get a big boost every time an absentee mailer drops, Democrats have built their numbers through a huge field team and in-person early voting sites that slowly accumulate every day. Republicans and their field team and volunteers are still doing a great job in bringing in numbers better than their 2012 results, especially in a year where voter frustration is high. And they’re closing the gap between them and Democrats.
 
Catching up on the last few pages, and it's always the same fantasies from too many posters in need of a reality check.

Seriously:

1. Garland will not be pulled after Hillary wins. He's going to be the next justice on the Supreme Court and that's a good thing. The ONLY chance he isn't appointed is if Republicans refuse to move forward in the lame-duck session and Garland himself decides Hillary should get her own pick and withdraws his name. And that's not likely.
2. Obama will not be on the Supreme Court. It's a bad idea and people really need to get past the notion.
3. There is no killer oppo and there never was. Do not believe insiders, be they on twitter or this very forum. Even people with access are just as prone to believing rumors and being strung along by others on the inside.
Thank you. The salt would be glorious for about five minutes but the downsides are too heavy.

1) Obama brings nothing special to the Court other than the prestige of being the most recent president
2) Because he is the most recent president, Obama would likely have to recuse himself from any case that came up involving legislation/executive actions passed under his watch, which would likely be the bulk of cases as he is the most recent! As well as possibly anything from 2005-2008 he voted on as a Senator.
3) Because the Court is ostensibly nonpartisan, he would be unable to participate in campaigning in the future, including his scheme to win redistricting battles (another conflict of interest that he'd probably have to recuse himself from in any redistricting cases)
4) He needs to go home and be a family man

Garland will be fine and Hillary will likely fill at least two vacancies (Ginsburg and Kennedy).
 
Catching up on the last few pages, and it's always the same fantasies from too many posters in need of a reality check.

Seriously:

1. Garland will not be pulled after Hillary wins. He's going to be the next justice on the Supreme Court and that's a good thing. The ONLY chance he isn't appointed is if Republicans refuse to move forward in the lame-duck session and Garland himself decides Hillary should get her own pick and withdraws his name. And that's not likely.
2. Obama will not be on the Supreme Court. It's a bad idea and people really need to get past the notion.
3. There is no killer oppo and there never was. Do not believe insiders, be they on twitter or this very forum. Even people with access are just as prone to believing rumors and being strung along by others on the inside.

I feel like I just went to Hopium rehab.
 

Iolo

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3. There is no killer oppo and there never was. Do not believe insiders, be they on twitter or this very forum. Even people with access are just as prone to believing rumors and being strung along by others on the inside.

No but I have multiple sources who are saying there are at least two stories which are even worse than the p-grab tape.
 
I don't think anyone else can see these at the moment.

Yeah, Twitter's still down for me. What's it say?

Sorry, I was standing in the lobby getting Chinese food, couldn't post the text. It's below.

On that note, Twitter won't update for me over home internet (TWC), but seems to work over LTE (AT&T).

The tweet:

Hillary Clinton
Hillary Clinton‏ @HillaryClinton
Where was this kind of comedy last night?
Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump
The results are in on the final debate and it is almost unanimous, I WON! Thank you, these are very exciting times.
Oct 21, 2016, 1:51 PM
 
Transition team for Clinton ramping up now that, yes, she'll probably be the president:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/hillary-clinton-transition-team-hiring-staff-230157

With polls pointing to the likelihood of a Clinton win, her transition team is hiring staff, culling through the resumés of possible Cabinet nominees and reaching out to key Democrats for input, according to people familiar with the process.

The heightened activity signals a strategic shift for the Clinton team, which had until recently kept a low profile amid fears that the campaign might be accused of overconfidence. The team's goal is to develop short lists of candidates for the most important administration positions so that top Clinton officials can move forward with nomination announcements quickly after Election Day. Word of Barack Obama's first nominations began leaking within weeks of him being elected.

Like the Obama transition team before it — which was also overseen by Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta — secrecy is the byword. "They're not really telling people much," says one policy expert who has spoken with members of the tight team. "It is more about gathering information than telling people what they are doing."

The next president will make more than 4,000 political appointments to fill out the executive branch, a daunting task for any new president, but one made slightly easier when one Democrat passes the baton to another.

"It’s going to be a whole different feel because it’s a Democrat-to-Democrat transition. So it’s not going to be such an extensive team," one Democrat told POLITICO.

In recent weeks, the team has made a number of hires, according to people familiar with the issue. They include Matt Lee-Ashley, a former top Interior official during Salazar's tenure at the department, who is acting as something of a chief of staff to his former boss. Lee-Ashley is taking a leave from his role as a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, the liberal think tank with close ties to Clinton World.

Michael Ettlinger, the director of the University of New Hampshire's Carsey School of Public Policy and a former CAP official focused on economics policy, is also working with the team on a volunteer basis, POLITICO has learned. Ettlinger is focused on economics-related issues and working closely with Heather Boushey, the transition team's chief economist. Also working on the transition team, according to sources, is Danny Schwaber, a former CAP intern and son of U.S. Global Leadership Coalition chief Liz Schrayer, a deeply connected and influential advocate for international engagement.

POLITICO previously reported that the Clinton transition operation hired the Rev. Leah Daughtry, the CEO of the 2016 and 2008 Democratic National Convention committees, to help lead the operation’s personnel team; and Carlos Monje, a top Transportation Department official and a veteran of Obama's White House, to help lead the teams focused on federal agencies. Michael Linden, another former CAP official, is focused on labor issues for the transition team.
 

Iolo

Member
If someone stole Politico's internal emails and handed them to Wikileaks, do you suppose that Politico would publish their contents?
 

Paskil

Member
http://www.wsj.com/articles/faceboo...-remove-trump-posts-as-hate-speech-1477075392

Facebook Employees Pushed to Remove Trump’s Posts as Hate Speech
Some of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s posts on Facebook have set off an intense debate inside the social media company over the past year, with some employees arguing certain posts about banning Muslims from entering the U.S. should be removed for violating the site’s rules on hate speech, according to people familiar with the matter.

The decision to allow Mr. Trump’s posts went all the way to Facebook Inc. Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg, who ruled in December that it would be inappropriate to censor the candidate, according to the people familiar with the matter. That decision has prompted employees across the company to complain on Facebook’s internal messaging service and in person to Mr. Zuckerberg and other managers that it was bending the site’s rules for Mr. Trump, and some employees who work in a group charged with reviewing content on Facebook threatened to quit, the people said.
 

studyguy

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I'm going to miss the Obama jokes. Chaos Emeralds, the fake birth certificates, the goofy nicknames

:(

We'll always have the memories and we'll always have the republicans labeling him as a sold wallstreet shill after he goes on public speaking tours for billions of shill dollars to line his shill pocket. Not bad for an illegal Muslim Kenyan.
 

HylianTom

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Thank you. The salt would be glorious for about five minutes but the downsides are too heavy.

1) Obama brings nothing special to the Court other than the prestige of being the most recent president
2) Because he is the most recent president, Obama would likely have to recuse himself from any case that came up involving legislation/executive actions passed under his watch, which would likely be the bulk of cases as he is the most recent! As well as possibly anything from 2005-2008 he voted on as a Senator.
3) Because the Court is ostensibly nonpartisan, he would be unable to participate in campaigning in the future, including his scheme to win redistricting battles (another conflict of interest that he'd probably have to recuse himself from in any redistricting cases)
4) He needs to go home and be a family man

Garland will be fine and Hillary will likely fill at least two vacancies (Ginsburg and Kennedy).

I hope she replaces Breyer, too. He's 78.

Ginsburg has me sweating a bit, to be honest. She says she's not going anywhere anytime soon.

Now would be a good time for new justices, especially since we don't know when we'd be able to flip the Senate back after 2018. Well, that, and 2020 is no guarantee for re-election. I'm hoping that Scalia's death serves as a cautionary tale for justices who are mindful of the court's future direction.
 

thebloo

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Wallace:"Mr. Trump, you want to build a wall. Secretary Clinton, you have offered no specific plan for how you want to secure our southern border."

The fuck question is that?
 

studyguy

Member
Wallace:"Mr. Trump, you want to build a wall. Secretary Clinton, you have offered no specific plan for how you want to secure our southern border."

The fuck question is that?

A Fox question, the same kind of questions that serve to ask 'Why are you not better appealing to Republican sensibilities?'
Most of Wallace's questions were fair, but it very clearly slanted towards the most conservative of issues.
 
Wallace:"Mr. Trump, you want to build a wall. Secretary Clinton, you have offered no specific plan for how you want to secure our southern border."

Wallace's Clinton foundation question was one of the worst framed questions in the entire debate cycle. Only Radditz' Aleppo question was worse.
 

NeoXChaos

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PollingReport.com
‏@pollreport
icymi
LOUISIANA
President, by race:
WHITES: Clinton 12% / Trump 75%
BLACKS: Clinton 89% / Trump 2%
(Raycom Media/Mason-Dixon, LV, 10/17-19)


Nate Cohn ‏@Nate_Cohn 4m4 minutes ago Washington, DC
A lot of the case for a 'blue Georgia' hinged on a modest rebound among white voters in the Deep South post-Obama. Not so far

Nate Cohn ‏@Nate_Cohn 5m5 minutes ago Washington, DC
Nate Cohn Retweeted PollingReport.com
Clinton was at 20% among white voters in the GA poll from AJC/SRBI. No 'dead cat bounce' among Deep South whites

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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage


Georgia isn't happening :(

Also, this cyberattack thing is a bit worrisome. Could this type of thing affect voting on election day?

Edit: Thought the results were sent via the Internet. Carry on.
 
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