I have an issue if he asks a Benghazi question.
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excelsiorlef
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I think it's smart in that it allows the complaints to come foryh organically without it being tied to her and her campaign.
Which sadly is important as it avoids the both sides argument that would inevitability hit if she did
I think this has been an overlooked aspect of Trump's campaign -- playing up ethnic divisions within groups. Dig deeper and it gets pretty specific.
I decided to look at the new york one, and 1. the primaries are such a different beast from the general election. I mostly watched the republican ones, but I see there's massive cheering on both sides. 2. I hope you're right. I don't think Hillary has actually taken Donald to task with his nonanswers in either of the debates, but if there was a time to do it, it'd be now.
Watching last nights real time. Ugh, didn't realize Andrew Sullivan had such a hate boner for illegal immigrants. Really surprised he's not for Trump since he's on exactly the same page as Ann Coulter. Bernie actually did a good job shutting that British asshole up on multiple things.
"Paying lower prices for drugs will stifle innovation"
"We need to do enforcement first on immigration"
This guy needs to go away for a couple of years again.
"Paying lower prices for drugs will stifle innovation"
"We need to do enforcement first on immigration"
This guy needs to go away for a couple of years again.
Fragamemnon
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If Trump prepared properly and could assemble sentences, this is actually a decent spot for him at the third debate. Obama's got a few problem points in foreign policy that have flared up lately (escalation in Yemen, Assad's more or less beaten the rebels in Syria, attempted coup in Libya, awkardness with Phillipines/Turkey) that aren't entirely his fault but that are worthy of critique. Hillary's had a hard time separating her stances from that of the administration (because they are very similar) and a lot of the administration's positions need review-especially Syria and Yemen.
Trump being consistent about not engaging in wars and conflicts without clear US interests might win him some points with little-l libertarians and Buchanan-style republicans. It would also mean he'd be consistent on something besides sucking Putin's wang, which might help with the hold-your-nose vote.
None of this will happen and he'll be unhinged and uniformed of course, but there' s plenty of room in this debate for Hillary to have policy positions that just aren't all that popular. This is in constrast to domestic policy discussion, where Republicans are ideologically bankrupt.
Trump being consistent about not engaging in wars and conflicts without clear US interests might win him some points with little-l libertarians and Buchanan-style republicans. It would also mean he'd be consistent on something besides sucking Putin's wang, which might help with the hold-your-nose vote.
None of this will happen and he'll be unhinged and uniformed of course, but there' s plenty of room in this debate for Hillary to have policy positions that just aren't all that popular. This is in constrast to domestic policy discussion, where Republicans are ideologically bankrupt.
cooljeanius
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He's trying to paint himself as another Modi, who also stoked racial/religious tensions against Muslims earlier in his career. Modi turned out to be an OK prime minister, though, so maybe Trump is trying to say he can do likewise (he can't).
Joe Shlabotnik
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No one cares anymore about any of the issues that have already dragged her down to a terrible horrible no-good 7 point lead, conservatively.
They're all dead horses
I would also really like to see some more AZ polling. But McCain has polled so far ahead of Kirkpatrick since after the primaries that I'm not sure how much he'll be affected by some of the Trump stuff. I think the only way it affects him is with Trump supporters rebelling against republicans who have unendorsed Trump. McCains name recognition is just huge. Kirkpatrick is a bit.. I don't know? Odd somehow? And most people who aren't going to vote McCain who normally would have probably decided that when he endorsed Trump despite the POW thing.
My parents are fairly solid R voters and I have no doubt they've voted McCain every time they could. They're done with him because of his endorsement for Trump. When McCain unendorsed my dad's response was "Well, he's an idiot for endorsing in the first place and now he just looks stupid."
My parents are fairly solid R voters and I have no doubt they've voted McCain every time they could. They're done with him because of his endorsement for Trump. When McCain unendorsed my dad's response was "Well, he's an idiot for endorsing in the first place and now he just looks stupid."
cooljeanius
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Is there a thread for Yemen stuff? Sounds like things are escalating further...
Carpe Carnim
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I agree with Kev, this isn't going to move the needle. The only thing at stake is the psychology of the two bases. A dominant performance for Clinton may move a marginal point in a swing-state by motivating soft supporters to vote early, instead of procrastinating and possibly not voting on November 8th. A strong, or not embarrassing performance from Trump keeps skittish GOP reps on-boardat least until the inevitable nuke everyone expects from Clinton's campaign drops. A bumbling performance from Cheetos Jesus probably causes massive abandonment and near complete focus on down-ballot from the RNC.
Mrs. Manky
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Just don't dress as a clown. Stay alive.
It's an old cliche, the only woman on the good guys team has to fight the only woman on the bad guys team. Jill Stein thinks America wants a chick fight, and she's ready to give it to them.
I agree.
She had to worry about coming across as caring and personable in the townhall. The third debate allows her to hit hard without worrying about looking bad in front of a live audience.
Carpe Carnim
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I'd like to see a linear regression of registered GOP early voters/ballots and firearm background checks. I wonder if there's an inverse relationship?
IggyChooChoo
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Wasn't Tulsi Gabbard also linked to the Hindu right?
Chris Wallace is one of the better people at Fox News. He has called out some Fox people on air and can be hard on Republicans but he still has that Fox stench on him. I'm sure he can ask a total fair question about emails like the other moderators have but I wouldn't be surprised if get that good ole "fair and balanced" questions about Bengazhi or the Foundation. He first topic is "Debt and Entitlements" and that sounds like it could be asked in a leading way.
So I guess no to the Trump mask then? I think you may be right, bad idea.
I'll never understand why Trump gets points for this when he has been on record as FOR pretty much every problematic FP we've done in recent years AND he pretty much said he would go to war with Iran if they "insulted us" AND he has no concept of how to use Nukes and has said he wants more nations with nukes. That to say nothing of the 35353523 times when he advocated for war crimes. He would be a FP disaster.
The Des Moines Register endorsed Clinton.
History: They've endorsed mostly Democrats, except for Nixon (both times) and Romney in 2012.
History: They've endorsed mostly Democrats, except for Nixon (both times) and Romney in 2012.
cooljeanius
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Wow. I need to check Miiverse...
I'm surprised it hasn't come up at all in the first two debates.
If the emails (lol, if) come up in the third debate she should just tell Americans to read them. It's all a huge nothingburger anyway, and no one is going to read them anyway. Just say I'm fine if America reads the private emails, is Donald okay with America seeing more private recordings?
He hasn't, they're pressuring him to by making it a hashtag
Pretty sure that's just an attempt to shame into actually doing it.
DataStream
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I think Wallace is going to go for the killshot. He has journalism bonafides and understands what this moment in history means. Trump is going to be lighting bags of shit on his door afterwards.
balladofwindfishes
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I don't remember this part? The dialog I mean, I remember the gate.
Um, from what I understand this is s fake hashtag designed to guilt Bush into actually doing this.
CoffeeJanitor
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Is it just me or is there zero bite in that line
Yeah, pretty sure this is fake.
There is a bit making fun of gun nuts though.
Not even Treehouse can stay being apolitical.
Fragamemnon
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He doesn't get points for this because he's unable to articulate what a modern form of isolationism would look like (which would go well with his base), and instead talks about crazy stuff like first strikes and secret plans instead like a moron. This is a giant fail on the part of his policy team but maybe everyone's too balls deep with Putin to make anything coherent out of it so they don't even try.
Saw another Wikileaks dump on Hillary's speeches rise to the top of CNN's website and almost pooped a little. But reading the excerpts, it's... nothing? Like I struggle to see how any somewhat reasonable person could take offense to anything there. She cautions Wall Street to be more civic minded and laments that we couldn't swing a better working relationship with Russia back during the "reset." There's nothing even remotely controversial there, but it's going to be played up to something equal in scope to Donald's misdeeds, isn't it?
Suikoguy
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https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4uabwt/final_response_megathread/
Not what you are looking for exactly, but close.
shinra-bansho
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Well, there's your mistake.
The loonies voting for Dr WiFi, or Governor Aleppo, or just not voting, and whatever remaining disgruntled Bernie Standers, weirdos like Greenwald, aren't really typically somewhat reasonable.
Ether_Snake
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People will say "Oh more emails of Hillary got leaked, this time Goldman Sachs emails, and they were leaked to IS". Everything gets mixed up in people's head.
Fragamemnon
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Great tweet re: debates
The debate format has run its course. Time for something useful to take its place. I'm not sold on three hours but one hour each would be an experiment I'd like to see.
The debate format has run its course. Time for something useful to take its place. I'm not sold on three hours but one hour each would be an experiment I'd like to see.
Football is dumb. Went to a housewarming party and everyone watching the Wisconsin/Ohio State game. I don't usually care or even know who Wisconsin plays each week, but at the least, I hope Wisconsin wins because of the stupid insistence of people to refer to Ohio State as The Ohio State. The fuck out of here with that shit.
RustyNails
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If you meant she's linked to the BJP (rightwing party of Modi), then sorta. She met this BJP activist guy who said some things about Muslims.
Great tweet re: debates
The debate format has run its course. Time for something useful to take its place.
I think this is an excellent idea.
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