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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black

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spock

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Trump is winning because of record Republican turnout. That isn't Hilary's fault. That is Trump finally giving the rural white racist fucks exactly what they wanted all along in a political candidate.

Honestly its more the anti establishment thing along with the "anyone but Hillary" movement than race. Many of the folks here in NH that I saw switch to Trump where part of the Bernie or Trump group. They really just did not want another traditional politician.
 
This is fucking beyond the pale at this point. It is always the responsibility of the losing candidate that they lost. We *knew* that Trump was giving rural white racist fucks what they wanted. We've known that for ages. So why did we run a milquetoast candidate who most Democrats aren't enthused by and doesn't connect to the labour movement?

Seriously, look at yourselves.

Or maybe Democrats maxxed out and Republicans simply didn't?

She's still going to win the popular vote, FWIW. The electoral college screws urban cities once again.
 

jonjonaug

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What's sad is that I'll be fine.

I'm white, straight, married, work in a growing job market, and I have a white kid with a white name.

It's everyone else who is fucked.

That's the tragedy. Everyone who isn't me or who looks like me.

Don't worry, with Trump in charge of the economy I'm sure that growing job market thing won't last.
 

Ether_Snake

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The guy who publicly praised numerous dictators is the president of the US, after everyone told him he was a farce. If you think he won't run along the lines of those he praised, you're fooling yourselves. Republicans are going to be scared of losing their seats, so it's extremely unlikely that they wouldn't support him. Most they'll do is quit and Trump's folks will run and win instead.

When Obama leaves, Trump starts to pick his people to replace everyone in every branches and departments. The Republicans pretty much have to approve every one of them.

There are limits to what he could do, but the situation is tilted heavily in his favors, and anything that can allow him to be more like Putin, he'll go with it.
 
As an European HRC supporter.

Whatever you do, do not fall into trap of hate and anger. You can't fight anger and hate with more anger and hate. The only way to make someone a better person is to teach them how to be. We are not born to be good or evil, racist or tolerant. It's all learned behavior, and thus can be unlearned if you can be convincing enough and given enough time.

Good luck in coming years, do not break.
 
So, we've got record turnout on both sides, but is it still even a majority of the whole eligible population? I mean don't national elections still clock in less than 50% of the voting-age public in actual votes?

If so, I gotta wonder how everyone who didn't bother to even register is going to feel tomorrow.

Check brexit.

We really are fucking idiots
 

Doc Holliday

SPOILER: Columbus finds America
This is fucking beyond the pale at this point. It is always the responsibility of the losing candidate that they lost. We *knew* that Trump was giving rural white racist fucks what they wanted. We've known that for ages. So why did we run a milquetoast candidate who most Democrats aren't enthused by and doesn't connect to the labour movement?

Seriously, look at yourselves.

So you wanted to run a Jewish socialist against a hyped racist electorate....yep makes sense
 
immediately speaking everyone one of those poor rural people that voted for trump are the first to be affected by the financial consequences of his policies. They will feel it the worst and be right back during the Bush years x10. Its gonna get real bad real quick.
 
This was always going to to be my last vote in NC. I always looked it as relocation for a better job outlook in the company, now I see it as a flight to safety.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
I get people are crushed, but shut the fuck up with this "he's going to turn dictator" bullshit. You guys are fucking loony conspiracy theorists. There's plenty to be upset about and real damage that can be done without freaking out on November 8 that he's gonna blow up the goddamn Reichstag.

Donald Trump wants to imprison his political opponent and bring lawsuits against news agencies that report unfavorably on him

No I don't consider anything too outlandish at this point
 

TyrantII

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"Don't blame Clinton."

Obama has sky high approval and generic D and generic R are neck and neck. It's obviously Clinton's fault. Like, don't pretend it isn't.

You don't seem to grasp whats actually happening. Hillary is losing GOP counties by double due to GOP turnout. Bernie wasn't going to get those votes either. Those voters are voting based on what Trump says.

For example the panhandle in FL was able to completely wipe out a Hispanic Wave in the cities. This is a massive uprising of uneducated, white folks voting in block for what Trump campaigned on and overcoming the gains any Dem candidate had in the metro areas with women, minorities, and educated folks.

That's not going to help Bernie, or anyone. Democrat turnout is up over 2012, and it means jack shit.
 

rjinaz

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Where do democrats go from here?

That's a good question. Republicans will have complete control of this country for the next several years most likely.

I'm not sure there is much we can do but wait for that inevitable point where the people get tired of the same old and want to vote in a change.
 

Goodstyle

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You wanna know what the worst part is? I'm going to have to hear about this fuckwit president for the next 4-8 years. That's going to be painful every fucking time.
 

Joeytj

Banned
Now what guys? What will the Democrats do? Hillary might win the popular vote, but fuck.

The Supreme Court, the EPA, Obamacare, everything. My god.
 

Crocodile

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I get people are crushed, but shut the fuck up with this "he's going to turn dictator" bullshit. You guys are fucking loony conspiracy theorists. There's plenty to be upset about and real damage that can be done without freaking out on November 8 that he's gonna blow up the goddamn Reichstag.

I mean Trump would have all 3 branches of government at his disposal if he wins and has shown he values revenge above all else. The campaign has shown him to be somewhat unhinged. I don't think the gestapo is going to come out tomorrow but this man could do SERIOUS damage to the USA and the world.
 
As an European HRC supporter.

Whatever you do, do not fall into trap of hate and anger. You can't fight anger and hate with more anger and hate. The only way to make someone a better person is to teach them how to be. We are not born to be good or evil, racist or tolerant. It's all learned behavior, and thus can be unlearned if you can be convincing enough and given enough time.

Good luck in coming years, do not break.

Could you spread that message in Europe itself while you're at it? Because in the next few years far right fascism will take hold here as well.
 

Jeels

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Now what guys? What will the Democrats do? Hillary might win the popular vote, but fuck.

The Supreme Court, the EPA, Obamacare, everything. My god.

The senate, the house, state legislatures, governorships. The republicans control the entire country.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Where do democrats go from here?

The only counter for Racial Pandering, that is not countered by people who typically vote for said canidate sitting things out, is Racial Pandering. So I don't know.

Those people who disagreed with Trump yet still voted for him are the problem, they make it so Dems have no real options but to move to the right and start blaming immigrants and foreigners.

Clinton's turnout numbers leave me with no other suggestions...

They have to adapt. If they were smart they would flock to Bernie.

Instead we are probably going to get a bunch of diet racists who no longer openly favor social progress

How would a self proclaimed socialist have gotten more rural votes?
Keep in mind, he would have pushed the same message of diversity, gay rights, etc.
 
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