This would be easier if I had people to talk to or be around. I'm fucking alone here.
Politically speaking what can Congress Democrats do to limit the damage a Trump presidency will do?
That black dude in Illinois was right all alongLA TIMES REDEEMED
Literally nothing. Republicans are going to nuke the filibuster first thing and then run roughshod over everything.Politically speaking what can Congress Democrats do to limit the damage a Trump presidency will do?
We must move further left. Unless things go absolutely catastrophic in the first 4 years that make the middle more appealing to that rural white vote they need to be driven.
Going, "well maybe we can just leave all those gay rights stuff to the states." won't help. If the dem's go that way then they'll end up being the party that needs to be destroyed all along.
The two ideological extremes are the most popular sides right now. Conflict will arise and the left needs to be in power or be prepared to pay with blood. The clock started tonight.
You need a message and you need a vision for the nation.Excitement wins every election
trump had it and Hillary didn't. That's it.
I regret my primary vote and I will never vote in the same way I did this election ever ever again
Joel D. Anderson ‏@byjoelanderson 45 seconds ago
The Supreme Court. The Justice Department. The FBI. We handed it over to someone who thinks the Central Park Five should’ve been executed
When do we realistically think this thing is done? I've been up since 5:30, and I've got a job to do at 5:30 tomorrow.
I've got to be honest--you all in here talking about the democrats moving right are completely wrong.
The democrats need to move further left. Start promising things to people. Free health care. No taxes under $55000 income. Universal income. THAT is how you get back rural whites.
Ok, and we will be heading towards accelerationism.
It will get ugly real quick.
This is where I'm at too. I know I'm distraught over this but I can't really feel it because I'm so flabbergasted about what happened here. It's like nothing ever mattered: the debates, the dozens of reported scandals, the Dem surrogates, the data, the polls, the GOTV, the coalition, Obama's entire presidency. None of it mattered. What the fuck do you do with that? How do we build from that?I don't even know how to feel right now.
I can't even process what's happened. Polling was off by so much, it's as if it never even existed. I don't even know what's going on, it feels unreal. There was no data for this. Nothing indicated this was going to happen. I don't function well without data. When it doesn't add up and doesn't work out in my head how something like this happened. I sort of just shut down.
Also: debates don't matter, GOTV doesn't matter, gaffes don't matter, qualifications don't matterI don't even know how to feel right now.
I can't even process what's happened. Polling was off by so much, it's as if it never even existed. I don't even know what's going on, it feels unreal. There was no data for this. Nothing indicated this was going to happen. I don't function well without data. When it doesn't add up and doesn't work out in my head how something like this happened. I sort of just shut down.
That's what message boards are for. We're still all in this together.
Let it.Health Savings Accounts are going to destroy our healthcare system. Calling it right now.
This is the scary part. What Obama did for hope and change, Trump does for hate and fear.Yup.
It's now okay to:
1) Sexually assault women
2) Be a racist
3) Be a sexist
4) Threaten to jail your political opponents
5) Threaten and mock journalists and newspapers
6) Be a politician but know nothing about policy
Fight how? We're going to have President Trump with a Republican controlled Senate, House, and Supreme Court, along with a majority of states under Republican control. We're simply outnumbered here. We're completely fucked and there's literally nothing we can do.
Filibuster if the republicans don't nuke it, but it's likely they will.
Other than that, all they can do is campaign for 2018.
Dang it.
I've made it through Comey-Gate without worrying about Clinton winning, now I'm getting nervous that millions of people just said "fuck it"
So are we going to give Nate "Bronze" some credit here or is he still a whiny incompetent trash baby? In spite of all the crap polls forcing his model to point towards Clinton's direction he was still far closer than literally any other pollster.
I've got to be honest--you all in here talking about the democrats moving right are completely wrong.
The democrats need to move further left. Start promising things to people. Free health care. No taxes under $55000 income. Universal income. THAT is how you get back rural whites.
I've got to be honest--you all in here talking about the democrats moving right are completely wrong.
The democrats need to move further left. Start promising things to people. Free health care. No taxes under $55000 income. Universal income. THAT is how you get back rural whites.
So are we going to give Nate "Bronze" some credit here or is he still a whiny incompetent trash baby? In spite of all the crap polls forcing his model to point towards Clinton's direction he was still far closer than literally any other pollster.
This is the one "I told you so" moment I get to have, don't ruin it for me.
No, that's how you get the rural whites up in arms about a government of entitlements. Not to mention moving far left on issues like gun control leaves that demographic even more scorned.I've got to be honest--you all in here talking about the democrats moving right are completely wrong.
The democrats need to move further left. Start promising things to people. Free health care. No taxes under $55000 income. Universal income. THAT is how you get back rural whites.
LOL you have no idea how rural whites work if you think those things will attract them.I've got to be honest--you all in here talking about the democrats moving right are completely wrong.
The democrats need to move further left. Start promising things to people. Free health care. No taxes under $55000 income. Universal income. THAT is how you get back rural whites.
I've got to be honest--you all in here talking about the democrats moving right are completely wrong.
The democrats need to move further left. Start promising things to people. Free health care. No taxes under $55000 income. Universal income. THAT is how you get back rural whites.
The Dems need to do what the GOP did for Obama's entire presidency - resist everything and work up their base.
That's why we LOST. Too far leftI've got to be honest--you all in here talking about the democrats moving right are completely wrong.
The democrats need to move further left. Start promising things to people. Free health care. No taxes under $55000 income. Universal income. THAT is how you get back rural whites.
From Facebook. Need a video but not that hard to believe.
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Journalist friend of mine is covering official Trump victory party in Manhattan and the crowd is chanting "no more Muslims no more blacks, we're gonna get our country back."
America 2016. This is who you voted for.
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The only silver lining is Trump may be such a say all, do nothing that he might NOT do anything and just revel in being President. Still means crap all around but may not be beyond disastrous.
It's over. Go to bed.When do we realistically think this thing is done? I've been up since 5:30, and I've got a job to do at 5:30 tomorrow.
I'm going to need all of the help I can get now.Yup. Whatever you need to say just say it here; that's what I'm doing.
Let it.
Burn the shit to ashes.
I've got to be honest--you all in here talking about the democrats moving right are completely wrong.
The democrats need to move further left. Start promising things to people. Free health care. No taxes under $55000 income. Universal income. THAT is how you get back rural whites.