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[Knuckle Sandwich]

What's next for Hillary?

Enjoying her grandkids.

 

[sazzy]

DIABLOS REDEEMED

 

[Loudninja]

You think people will learn this time?

Nah of course now I expect nothing.

 

[Wheeljack539]

What's next for Hillary?

Go home and pray that she isn't arrested after Jan 20th.

At this point I'm worried for Obama as well after that.

 

[VariantX]

I've got to be honest--you all in here talking about the democrats moving right are completely wrong.

The democrats need to move further left. Start promising things to people. Free health care. No taxes under $55000 income. Universal income. THAT is how you get back rural whites.

They vote against their own interests constantly.

 

[RustyNails]

And let hundreds of thousands of people have to file for bankruptcy due to medical debt? With a GOP controlled government? That's crazy.

What do you want to do? We tried to stop it didnt we? Children dont listen.

 

[Hazmat]

What's next for Hillary?

She will diminish and go into the West, and remain Hillary.

 

[ampere]

President elect with a rape trial in December and fraud in November?

This is so disgusting

 

[TopDreg]

I'm not sure how I feel about democracy now. People are easily misinformed or stupid.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

I feel like really liberal states are gonna go even further left to fight this bullshit. The DOJ won't help out with discrimination and the police now. Gotta sort that shit out yourself. Same with abortion, education, wages. People are gonna have to find their own Scotland somewhere. By the way doesn't the ACA have some kind of clause that lets states set up a public option?

Maybe there's a shining light at the end of the tunnel, in that there will be states that move rapidly towards progress. Stuff like public healthcare, education reform, stuff like that, states can handle if they work towards it.

But that doesn't help the millions who won't live in the safe haven blue states like CA and NY.

 

[Totakeke]

Enjoying her grandkids.

Can't imagine all the Trump supporters being happy that Trump doesn't follow up with his promise of jailing her.

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

I can understand black support going down from Obama to Clinton, 93 to 88, but how did Latino support go down, 71 to 65? How are there 35% of Latinos who voted, directly or not, for Trump? What the fuck?

millennials

 

[JHoNNy1OoO]

My biggest question is this: Will republicans actually overturn Roe v. Wade? They've used the abortion argument to their advantage for decades. If they overturn it, that boogeyman is gone.

We'll see won't we? Just like Obamacare as well. Do they want to be responsible for the shit they unleash? Part of me says yes since they are never punished for it. Obama spent his first term cleaning up after Bush with barely any Republican help. Yet they were rewarded.

 

[mjp2417]

I want to know what hurt Hillary most:

1. Hidden vote in rural areas by pandering to the worst in US society
2. Comey's last minute bullshit blunting a surge in Dem momentum during the final hour
3. Third party candidates

I think all three of these played in big role, but the question is what exactly pushed Trump over the top? I won't be able to move on from this until I know.

Number 1 overwhelmingly. If we turn this into a referendum on Comey or Jill fucking Stein we've already lost 2020.

 

[Diablos]

IF she does actually pulls through in NH and Wisconsin....are we still done?

Nope, she can win if that happens. The problem is that WI is looking very very bad

 

[Officerrob]

I want to know what hurt Hillary most:

1. Hidden vote in rural areas by pandering to the worst in US society
2. Comey's last minute bullshit blunting a surge in Dem momentum during the final hour
3. Third party candidates

I think all three of these played in big role, but the question is what exactly pushed Trump over the top? I won't be able to move on from this until I know.

Number 1, easily. Number 2 IMO, was her baggage allowing the media to play up the "both sides are the same" bullshit, legitimizing Trumps' craziness

 

[PInk Tape]

You know, as much as I really didn't want that fuckstick orange cheeto to win, I also honestly wanted Hillary to win. Sure, i wasn't her biggest fan, but for all the shit she suffered through, not just in this election, but for the past 30 years, ever since she entered government, she really deserved to win.

I would have been so happy and excited to see her finally get what she deserved. More happy than the Cubs winning the World series happy tbh.

 

[Wheeljack539]

If they overturn it, the boogeyman will be reinstating Roe v Wade. Nothing changes unless the Democrats give up fighting for reproductive rights.

The worst part is now they know they can win the waiting game. Sure, they may lose big in one election but now that they know obstruction works that's all they have to do and they'll be back in power soon enough.

 

[Boke1879]

President elect with a rape trial in December and fraud in November?

This is so disgusting

He is literally going to trial for the rape of a 13 year old in December.

 

[Pixieking]

I want to know what hurt Hillary most:

1. Hidden vote in rural areas by pandering to the worst in US society
2. Comey's last minute bullshit blunting a surge in Dem momentum during the final hour
3. Third party candidates

I think all three of these played in big role, but the question is what exactly pushed Trump over the top? I won't be able to move on from this until I know.

There was a Clinton (I think?) ad that featured Trump talking about Muslims, but the word Muslim was replaced with the word Jew.

I fear that that acted as an incentive for some.

 

[maabus1999]

You think people will learn this time?

Nah of course now I expect nothing.

Only if Trump causes a depression. And it sucks to think that people must suffer to see their consequences. Not a place we should be in society.

I personally think we'll endure but it is going to be hectic.

 

[Toxi]

I want to know what hurt Hillary most:

1. Hidden vote in rural areas by pandering to the worst in US society
2. Comey's last minute bullshit blunting a surge in Dem momentum during the final hour
3. Third party candidates

I think all three of these played in big role, but the question is what exactly pushed Trump over the top? I won't be able to move on from this until I know.

1. And that's why this is horrifying.

 

[War Peaceman]

The Republican Strategist on PBS' live footage is right on the money. It isn't about elites vs. non-elites. It is about racism. This guy gets it. He's ashamed.

 

[Plinko]

What do you want to do? We tried to stop it didnt we? Children dont listen.

Going back to the way it was before ACA would be better than HSAs. Exponentially so.

 

[Touchdown]

President elect with a rape trial in December and fraud in November?

This is so disgusting

Could this be grounds for impeachment?

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Go home and pray that she isn't arrested after Jan 20th.

At this point I'm worried for Obama as well after that.

I'm worried about the entire Democrqric party at this point.

 

[Trouble]

Nope, she can win if that happens. The problem is that WI is looking very very bad

WI is gone.

 

[Finalizer]

At this point I'm worried for Obama as well after that.

President while black

 

[harriet the spy]

He depressing is it that the only hope we have now is fucking accelerationism?

Accelerationism is a completely stupid fucking idea. Sorry.

 

[Nafai1123]

I want to know what hurt Hillary most:

1. Hidden vote in rural areas by pandering to the worst in US society
2. Comey's last minute bullshit blunting a surge in Dem momentum during the final hour
3. Third party candidates

I think all three of these played in big role, but the question is what exactly pushed Trump over the top? I won't be able to move on from this until I know.

Why does it have to be any single thing? It's a numbers game. Whoever has the numbers at the end wins. Any of those things could impact the numbers in some tangible way. No point in trying to single out which exact factor caused it when the answer is all of them.

 

[mAcOdIn]

My biggest question is this: Will republicans actually overturn Roe v. Wade? They've used the abortion argument to their advantage for decades. If they overturn it, that boogeyman is gone.

Wouldn't the new Boogeyman be Democrats reinstating it then? Doesn't seem like a loss for Republicans.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Could this be grounds for impeachment?

Whose going to impeach him?

 

[Epsilon-delta]

He depressing is it that the only hope we have now is fucking accelerationism?

America electing Trump as President started it, so yea, it seems that way.

 

[ampere]

Could this be grounds for impeachment?

It's possible, but Pence is no better, so we are in a horrible situation regardless

 

[Totakeke]

Going back to the way it was before ACA would be better than HSAs. Exponentially so.

Do you have any articles on the problems of HSA? I'm not educated on that issue.

 

[Bowdz]

This is like a flat earther learning that the world is round. My entire world view is shattered. Like, I don't know what to think about anything.

 

[hipsterpants]

Maybe there's a shining light at the end of the tunnel, in that there will be states that move rapidly towards progress. Stuff like public healthcare, education reform, stuff like that, states can handle if they work towards it.

But that doesn't help the millions who won't live in the safe haven blue states like CA and NY.

No fucking kidding, as a resident of MO I now not only have a president with no government experience but a governor with none as well. And I have no doubt this state is getting redder and redder with every election.

 

[FireAndBlood]

Trump seems to be very vindictive. I imagine winning isn't enough for him. He needs to humiliate people.

 

[Ragnarsson]

My American friends: democracy doesn't end when you cast your vote. Democracy is much more than that. Engage in local politics, call your representatives, organize demonstrations... by all means, don't let this be a defeat. Don't quit, because this is far from over. The times ahead may be rough, but you will pull through. Raise your voice. Let this election serve as a reminder not to take anything for granted in politics. You can be sad today, I am too and I'm not even American, but from tomorrow on don't let the GOP destroy all the progress you've accomplished in the last 60 years. From tomorrow on, fight!

 

[Plinko]

Wouldn't the new Boogeyman be Democrats reinstating it then? Doesn't seem like a loss for Republicans.

How could they argue that with a conservative Supreme Court?

 

[bachikarn]

The only thing that gives me hope for this country is that last I heard, she was going to win the popular vote by a good margin.

 

[B-Dubs]

benji tell us some historical bullshit that will make us think a trump presidency won't be that bad cause polk or something

I could actually use something like that right now. Come on Benji, tell us something.

 

[bomma_man]

I've got to be honest--you all in here talking about the democrats moving right are completely wrong.

The democrats need to move further left. Start promising things to people. Free health care. No taxes under $55000 income. Universal income. THAT is how you get back rural whites.

As long as black people are getting those benefits too? Good luck.

 

[Pixieking]

My biggest question is this: Will republicans actually overturn Roe v. Wade? They've used the abortion argument to their advantage for decades. If they overturn it, that boogeyman is gone.

I think RBG wrote something in a recent SCOTUS case that essentially put it in the law for good. I hope so... Out of all the laws and rights I admire in the US, Roe is the one I admire most.

 

[LostMyNarbles]

When will we see a speech from either Trump or Hillary? Unless I'm missing something going off of a 270towin map this looks to be over.

 

[Grief.exe]

My biggest question is this: Will republicans actually overturn Roe v. Wade? They've used the abortion argument to their advantage for decades. If they overturn it, that boogeyman is gone.

It will likely continue the status quo of continued erosions of the voting rights act and Roe v Wade, just enough to advance their agenda, but not enough to draw mainstream attention.

 

[Wheeljack539]

President while black

I am honestly legit terrified for him. The deplorables have been proven correct and are now emboldened. He's mentioned about going back to Chicago but I honestly hope he just goes to Hawaii. He'd be safer there.

It's possible, but Pence is no better, so we are in a horrible situation regardless

Sad thing is Pence would be a step up.

 

[VariantX]

It's possible, but Pence is no better, so we are in a horrible situation regardless

Pence has some level of self control and a much better temperament, it's not much of a improvement over trump mind you.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Steve Kornacki's board isn't having it right now.

 

[Toxi]

How could they argue that with a conservative Supreme Court?

"A Democratic President can turn the Supreme Court."