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Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I have 4 children. One breaks his arm, boom: all my money in the account is gone. Next one needs vaccinations 2 weeks later: sorry, no money left.
PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black
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I have 4 children. One breaks his arm, boom: all my money in the account is gone. Next one needs vaccinations 2 weeks later: sorry, no money left.
JHoNNy1OoO
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Once someone reaches 270. Even then just like Trump. Maybe Hillary will "see what happens" and not concede.
That'd be something. lol
Keep on the path, elect someone who is not a career politician, and let the demographic shift do its work.
Trump is now the Republican party. What he will say and do will alienate minorities and millennials even more and completely tarnish the Republican brand in the future.
The rural white demographic is shrinking. What the Republican party has now is not a winning long-term strategy. It will be 4 years of pure hell, but in 2020 you'll likely get a huge democratic turnout in a census year to fight against Trump. Hopefully by that time he has alienated and completely disgusted or was simply ineffectual for all the people who voted for him.
I'm not sure about you but I think it would be easier to digest raw turnout for turnout's sake being the deciding factor, and not the director of the FBI helping GOP enthusiasm from the top down on the ticket at the last second while depressing/turning off on the fence Clinton voters. The margins we're seeing tonight... every last fucking vote counts.
banefirelord
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I would take Pence in a heartbeat right now.
The results of this election have basically screwed up my life.
I can't afford to get out of the military now (which I loathe being in, to the point where it's causing me to be depressed and nobody in my squadron gives a shit, and I have been suicidal in the past, to the point where my mom had to step in to get help). It's the only way I'm going to be able to afford health care (after the GOP destroys it, which they'll probably do to Tricare as well) for my son.
I honestly don't know what to do at this point.
I can't afford to get out of the military now (which I loathe being in, to the point where it's causing me to be depressed and nobody in my squadron gives a shit, and I have been suicidal in the past, to the point where my mom had to step in to get help). It's the only way I'm going to be able to afford health care (after the GOP destroys it, which they'll probably do to Tricare as well) for my son.
I honestly don't know what to do at this point.
As a millennial (91) with millennial Latino friends who were all pumped about Clinton, this makes no sense to me.
I understand Red America voting for Trump. I understand rural whites coming out of the woodwork. But I don't understand Latinos, young or not, not voting for Clinton (outside of Cuban boomers).
I guess she just goes back into regular life. I don't think Trump will let her hold any position of power in his government.
He might try to jail her but will be unsuccessful.
Retirement. This was her last card. She will not be hounded anymore, because the GoP has no more reason to.
Congrats, Trump. I guess someone finally broke Hillary and sent her to "drink teas".
That's what I'm saying. America is fucked.
The anti-defamation league and other groups had dire concerns for increases in anti-semitism and erosion of freedom of the press if Trump was elected.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Oh man I don't we've discussed Russia enough, this is so fucking crazy.
Bill maher was 100 percent on the money
Bill maher was 100 percent on the money
I'd take Pence's eroding civil rights over Trump's foreign policy and the possibility of doing irreparable damage to the civilized world right now.
Don't they still have maximum out of pocket? Granted it's much higher than a PPO plan, but this sounds like an employer enforcing plans on their employees that they can't afford.
Don't they still have maximum out of pocket? Granted it's much higher than a PPO plan, but this sounds like an employer enforcing plans on their employees that they can't afford.
Once someone reaches 270 it doesn't matter if the other candidate concedes
The danger is if a sitting president refuses to leave, which is entirely possible with Trump if he becomes president. If he wins, which it looks like, and he loses it 2020 he might refuse to step down
maybe the biggest takeaway here is that voting seems to be down over 2012. we're seeing more of a midterm than a presidential election this time around.
i hope in intervening years, democrats begin building strongholds in arizona and try regaining trust in the midwest. with a trump presidency, that might not be very hard.
i hope in intervening years, democrats begin building strongholds in arizona and try regaining trust in the midwest. with a trump presidency, that might not be very hard.
Already Torn
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Going bed now. Holding out hope but I know better than to trust the Midwest. Honestly think the planet is beyond saving now considering Trump's stances on the environment.
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StopMakingSense
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Well as fickle as we Americans are it won't take much.
BreezyLimbo
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hows the bedwetting
Just like 2 days ago people were saying 'stop bedwetting'
I'm annoyed
Just like 2 days ago people were saying 'stop bedwetting'
I'm annoyed
Tangled Up in Blue
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Today is the 78th anniversary of Kristallnacht.
banefirelord
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Thanks for that.
balladofwindfishes
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Isn't it evident from tonight that it doesn't really matter how much you mobilize minorities, the white vote will always triumph if it wants to?
2020 very well might be another wave for the GOP in an election identical to this one
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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This is an L that this country will never be able to remove. Say whatever you want about us, foreigners, I don't care, and you're probably right anyways.
JHoNNy1OoO
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We'll survive and believe it or not grow stronger. Hopefully Obama gets involved BIG LEAGUE for midterms. Racist Whites will continue dying off. This might actually be their last hurrah if they manage to pull this off.
Randolph Freelander
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Mattresses are beyond ruined.
I hope it means figuring out how to get people to vote in the midterms. That's a good place to start so we can hopefully begin to have a solid foothold for the next democratic presidential candidate to work with.
Fuck guys. I was laughing during the primaries. "Go Trump! Tear the GOP apart! Start the great GOP war when you get pummeled in the general election by literally anything else because you'll have turned away every minority and young vote, hahaha~" It feels so goddamn disgusting in hindsight, how dangerous this was. Playing with a goddamn bomb that hardly anyone could see going off.
I'm so sorry everyone.
I'm so sorry everyone.
QuiteWhittle
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I'm drowning.
Also fucking annoyed.
But it doesn't matter anymore. It's not gonna help anything. Just feel empty.
2 days ago all the evidence and data we had access to pointed in a very very different direction than tonight went.
Oh fuck, it gets worse.
There's no way RGB is going to stay on the court for another four years, which means Trump gets not only one, but TWO new SC appointments. Hell, Thomas might even want to retire.
This night just keeps getting worse and worse.
There's no way RGB is going to stay on the court for another four years, which means Trump gets not only one, but TWO new SC appointments. Hell, Thomas might even want to retire.
This night just keeps getting worse and worse.
Tranqueris
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I think she dropped that lawsuit
Not sure what they do people are very lazy.
RustyNails
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Diablos how are you still awake and not curled up in a corner with drool all over the place. And Naked. Like me.
Yep. This election kind of defeats the whole idea that building a coalition among minority groups is the way forward. A maximized rural white turnout apparently beats everything.
perfectchaos007
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So I have a theory as to why polls showed Hillary winning up until election day that ultimately were proven wrong. Let me know what you guys think.
Hillary's wheelhouse was millennials, blue collar workers, and minorities. The former two being the most critical because millennials and blue collar workers are overworked, busy all the time, and as a millennial I can also vouch that we are chronic procrastinators. I think this demographic had full intentions of voting for Hillary, and when they were surveyed by the pollsters they planned on it. But come election time, they were either too busy to vote, or put it off early voting until election day and something else came up or they simply forgot to get out and vote.
Trumps wheelhouse was white men, baby boomers and silent generation. The latter two of which are mostly retired and have plenty of time on their hands. The ones that said they would vote, DID vote. And that was the difference.
Hillary's wheelhouse was millennials, blue collar workers, and minorities. The former two being the most critical because millennials and blue collar workers are overworked, busy all the time, and as a millennial I can also vouch that we are chronic procrastinators. I think this demographic had full intentions of voting for Hillary, and when they were surveyed by the pollsters they planned on it. But come election time, they were either too busy to vote, or put it off early voting until election day and something else came up or they simply forgot to get out and vote.
Trumps wheelhouse was white men, baby boomers and silent generation. The latter two of which are mostly retired and have plenty of time on their hands. The ones that said they would vote, DID vote. And that was the difference.
benjipwns
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With the caveat that not all these states are 100% in. Excepting Hawai'i and California, 2012 Obama's top ten states -> 2016 Clinton.
DC: 90.9% -> 92.8%
VT: 66.6% -> 61.1%
NY: 63.4% -> 59.7%
RI: 62.7% -> 54.9%
MD: 62.0% -> 60.6%
MA: 60.7% -> 60.4%
DE: 58.6% -> 53.4%
NJ: 58.4% -> 54.8%
CT: 58.1% -> 52.1%
IL: 57.6% -> 55.6%
DC was the only one she increased the D share in.
DC: 90.9% -> 92.8%
VT: 66.6% -> 61.1%
NY: 63.4% -> 59.7%
RI: 62.7% -> 54.9%
MD: 62.0% -> 60.6%
MA: 60.7% -> 60.4%
DE: 58.6% -> 53.4%
NJ: 58.4% -> 54.8%
CT: 58.1% -> 52.1%
IL: 57.6% -> 55.6%
DC was the only one she increased the D share in.
maabus1999
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Wheeljack539
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At this moment I honest to god hope so.
Yeah, this sucks but I'm not quitting. I'll be here around midterms to start fighting back. As long as this country still stands I'm not giving up on it. I'm just gutted to know apathy and hate can indeed trump love.
It won't convince all of them. Maybe not even a whole lot. But it could convince enough of the new apparent largest and most important voting block.
Maybe it doesn't work, maybe it really is just a massive surge of racist and xenophobic ideology that has no way to stop it.
Should we not try to give them a new deal that has worked before to convince them? If their ideals of racism, facist police, and xenophobia are what they really want then there is nothing we can do. Save to continue fighting with the pen and sword to keep our future.
Marmaladefire
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Do we even have a functional party anymore? We have no power in any part of the government, millennials are completely disillusioned with the party, I assure you this outcome is not going to help any minority voters who already only voted dem because it was the better alternative, and the culture of compromise and "listening to the otherside" when the other side is a bulldog with rabies has led to..This.
Manmademan
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They aren't. You would need some Mormon electors in Utah or something to break ranks.
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