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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black

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Nordicus

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Here's the last second pivot to women we've all been waiting for.

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We can't have fresh Trump twitter quotes but I guess this is good enough.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Mook said a month ago it would be close so it does two things for me: confirm again the Clinton campaign has good data and makes me think they will know how to get their voters out.
 

Chumly

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To be fair, people have been beating him up fairly regularly this year.
If we talk about it in a level headed manner I believe that he seriously needs to take another look at his model. A lot of the criticism is valid and he's going to end up being the RCP of polling averages really quickly if he doesn't.

His attitude of basically being an asshole and acting superior has started from day 1 and has only added fuel to the criticism and hate he gets.
 

Pyrokai

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Rain in Ohio according to MSNBC for election day.

Looks like--at least in Central Ohio--the rain won't start until after around 6:30pm, one hour before polls close. Not sure what that means, though.

Edit: FUCK....looks like it'll be raining all day in Northeast Ohio. Dammit!! Maybe it'll be a light rain.

In a positive outlook, Ohio seems to have a good amount of polling places so lines that go outside aren't a common sight.

Source: I've lived and voted in 4 different areas of Ohio and never waiting more than, like, 10 minutes. But who knows!!!
 

Zukkoyaki

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Mook said a month ago it would be close so it does two things for me: confirm again the Clinton campaign has good data and makes me think they will know how to get their voters out.

Agreed. Mook also said on Thursday night during their weekend battle-planning that they expect to win NC. I believe in them!
 
You laugh because it's true. I'd be singing swing low, sweet chariot with Slayven and Gordon.

Don't insult the browns like that. They are professionals
1) Slayven would be okay with it if he'd get to have a hot Asian chick if I recall correctly..

2)I will insult the Browns because the universe constantly does.. shit at least Philly has Embiid
 

Wilsongt

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Fox reported Janet Teno died, but instead of saying something positive after mentioninf she was the first female AG, they just said her tenure was marred by wacco
 
Looks like--at least in Central Ohio--the rain won't start until after around 6:30pm, one hour before polls close. Not sure what that means, though.

Edit: FUCK....looks like it'll be raining all day in Northeast Ohio. Dammit!! Maybe it'll be a light rain.

In a positive outlook, Ohio seems to have a good amount of polling places so lines that go outside aren't a common sight.

Source: I've lived and voted in 4 different areas of Ohio and never waiting more than, like, 10 minutes. But who knows!!!

dude Ohio is gone, don't even worry about it.
 

Pyrokai

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Does rain REALLY make that much of a difference in turnout?

I think what worries me is if there IS high turnout, I could see some polling locations (on a non-rainy day) have lines that last until well after 7:30pm, but if it's pouring down rain or something, I wonder if people would wait?

I also wonder if maybe most of these lines are actually indoors as well? I just don't know!

And man, it's Ohio. If people here aren't used to rain and cold winters, they're in trouble. But to be fair, it's freaking 70s in November and we haven't had a real winter in two years now, ugh.
 
Every state should have 2 weeks of early voting and mail in ballots.

I think in the end it will save everyone time and headaches

Nah. Make it a month. Then perhaps we could stop building campaign strategies around 'Muh Oppo'

It's like we're in an electoral version of old westerns, where the Cavalry is bound to arrive in the nick of time carrying a briefcase full of salacious stories we'll gather all the children to gawk at.

Make Election Day a national holiday and have damn street fairs that offer free admission if you voted. I dunno, we neednto do something to get people excited to do their damned civic duty.
 
upshot poll making me feel way less confident when you look at early voting data. Don't think Clinton can lose college educated whites by that much and win. 2012 repeat.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
upshot poll making me feel way less confident when you look at early voting data. Don't think Clinton can lose college educated whites by that much and win. 2012 repeat.
Do you really think she can lose college educated whites by 9 points? Just seems like such an outlier and swing from last time.
 
@ElectProject 1m1 minute ago
NC #earlyvote change from same day 2012:
Dem -30,561 (-2.3%)
Rep +104,889 (+11.9%)
Unaffiliated +226,517 (+38.9%)

@ElectProject 2m2 minutes ago
Been saying for a while that North Carolina #earlyvote looks better for Trump than the polls. Now final polls showing shift towards Trump

If upshot/Sienna is right, basically Dems not performing as well as they should in EV to win NC.
 

Retro

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Does rain REALLY make that much of a difference in turnout?

Leads can't last forever, and we both know polls can change. It's hard to pull that handle, in the cold November rain.

If you thought this post was awful, you're not the only one. You're not the only one.
/sick guitar riff
 
Young and hispanic voters are in the Unaffiliated category. I would assume Dems are getting 60+ % of that number and are ahead of their 2012 EV.

They might be ahead but Republicans are more ahead.

Sort of the only redeeming factor in the Upshot poll is that 6% who did EV refused to say who they voted for and demographically they favor Clinton.
 
Better news in FL

@electionsmith 31s32 seconds ago
Florida Race/Ethnic votes cast & share of early vote to date:
B: 834.6k (13.1%)
H: 976.3k (15.3%)
W: 4.2m (65.8%)
All Other: 373k (5.8%)

As for NC, I hope Clinton can get Black vote up to 23% share on Election Day.
 

Hopfrog

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I thought there was pretty much consensus on here that the EV numbers in NC were extremely positive. Now after one poll we are back to thinking that Trump will take it?
 
Is it NC or FL where the by party vote is deceiving because the increase in GOP is explained in part by a lot of Dixiecrats voting officially under the GOP bannerfor the first time?
 
Is it NC or FL where the by party vote is deceiving because the increase in GOP is explained by Dixicrats voting officially under the GOP bannerfor the first time?

Both. The south is full of folks that haven't voted Dem since Carter, but have never changed affiliation.

This year's competitive Primary shook a lot of those folks loose, and back to where they should have been registered
 

Zukkoyaki

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I thought there was pretty much consensus on here that the EV numbers in NC were extremely positive. Now after one poll we are back to thinking that Trump will take it?

Same poll also confirms that NPAs lean dem. Also ignorning the Qpac poll that had Clinton +2. I know we all love Nate Cohn and The Upshot and these Siena polls are very high quality but let's not forget about their last Florida poll showing Trump +4. Their poll is also a tie, not a Trump lead. I think the disappointment stems from everyone's hope that NC would be a decisive win rather than a tight one.
 
Both. The south is full of folks that haven't voted Dem since Carter, but have never changed affiliation.

This year's competitive Primary shook a lot of those folks loose, and back to where they should have been registered


Yeah but there was one of them that it was especially prominent.
 
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