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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black

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Zukkoyaki

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Silver was right, the pollsters are herding.

I didn't believe you but wow. He really fucking said that. He's been mister "Trust the Numbers!!" (while adjusting literally every poll) this entire cycle and now he's straight-up saying, "Fuck the polls, I'm right. Even though my model is based on the polls."
 

Futureman

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Springsteen at final Clinton rally in Philly tonight. I assume this will be on YouTube?

also, I work at the University of Pittsburgh and Hillary has a rally in front of the Cathedral of Learning at noon today. May walk over on my lunch.
 
Bill Weld as the Attorney General really wouldn't bother me.

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Emarv

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I didn't believe you but wow. He really fucking said that. He's been mister "Trust the Numbers!!" (while adjusting literally every poll) this entire cycle and now he's straight-up saying, "Fuck the polls, I'm right. Even though my model is based on the polls."

To be fair, I believe 538 said weeks ago on their podcast that they expected to see last minute herding by smaller outlets. Don't know if Ras was included in that theory but still.

Is that a national poll?

That's what the dude's post said. Idk. I didn't post it. Haven't been on twitter yet to check.
 

DrForester

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Today show goes through final polling data.

Shows Clinton up 10 points in New Hampshire.

Goes to map and New Hampshire is listed as a "toss-up" to keep Clinton under 270.
 
Bill Weld as the Attorney General really wouldn't bother me.

Clinton's cabinet and major undersecretary and justice dept. appointees should all be Democrats that aren't past their prime. She's got the experience and doesn't need elder statesmen in these posts, and Democrats need to build a bench of future district and statewide candidates very, very badly.
 
Sam Wang basically responds to Nate Silver's twitter rant about how any model giving Hillary >98% isn't based on empirical data.

http://election.princeton.edu/2016/11/06/is-99-a-reasonable-probability/#more-18522

Good stuff, here.
i agree with Wang

Trump's path of sweeping all the Swings and flip a Blue makes the probability of it happening super low

Trump needs a tidal wave surge, but that is very difficult to achieve in an increasingly diverse and complexe electorate

Waves happen in smaller countries with fewer minorities, not in the current US though
 
that 57% also happens to be the EV turnout of women here in San antonio, easily a record. so more evidence pointing to record female turnout, and latinos. dems in disarray!

My gf and I are voting at the Central Library tomorrow. I'm just hoping I'm done before noon :/
 

Emarv

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Sam Wang basically responds to Nate Silver's twitter rant about how any model giving Hillary >98% isn't based on empirical data.

http://election.princeton.edu/2016/11/06/is-99-a-reasonable-probability/#more-18522

Good stuff, here.
This is a great post, particularly his assumptions on using the Meta-Margin to smooth out state correlations.

I honestly don't care whether Wang, Cohn or Silver are right at this point. Just adequately back up your assumptions like this. History will figure out the best method.
 
Clinton's cabinet and major undersecretary and justice dept. appointees should all be Democrats that aren't past their prime. She's got the experience and doesn't need elder statesmen in these posts, and Democrats need to build a bench of future district and statewide candidates very, very badly.

The cabinet -> senate or governor pathway doesn't work anymore because people are so distrustful of politicians and Washington. In the Indiana senate race voters view Bayh's experience as a negative. The last politician I can remember who successfully transitioned from the cabinet to elected office was Mel Martinez in Bush's first term. Portman was also in the Bush white house but he won in the '10 wave election. Anybody would have taken that seat.
 

Slayven

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i agree with Wang

Trump's path of sweeping all the Swings and flip a Blue makes the probability of it happening super low

Trump needs a tidal wave surge, but that is very difficult to achieve in an increasingly diverse and complexe electorate

Waves happen in smaller countries with fewer minorities, not in the current US though

But Brexit
 

BiggNife

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This 18 year old trump supporter on CNN looks like he got his fashion tips from Milo Yianniopolos

Which is to say he looks like an asshole
 

tedtropy

$50/hour, but no kissing on the lips and colors must be pre-separated
Why is Richie Rich on CNN assuring us that Trump is smart and compassionate?

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Effect

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A libertarian as AG? No thanks.

The very fact that Weld would say these things goes into why he's a Libertarian and not a Republican. That being said I think Hillary should fill her cabinet with Dems to not take any risk regardless if they seem sane.

Another topic. Has there been any indication in the early voting that there is a secret Trump vote out there that some were claiming? People that wanted to support him or would but won't admit it? We know the flip side of that is different and happening for Hillary as there are a LOT more Hispanic/Latino voters out there voting then anyone thought would show up.
 

Geg

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Glad to wake up and hear the strike in PA is over. There goes the last of my doubts about a Clinton win
 
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