Don't get why so many people are saying this was not a close election. Trump barely pulled off a win in multiple states including in the midwest and is probably going to barely end up losing the popular vote. He pulled a bush 2000 at this point.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black
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Don't get why so many people are saying this was not a close election. Trump barely pulled off a win in multiple states including in the midwest and is probably going to barely end up losing the popular vote. He pulled a bush 2000 at this point.
FTFY
We should start building beachside condos.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Its fucking breathtaking how incorrect every single poll was
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Donald Trump and the Republican z listers
Really it is a victory for telling people what they want to hear.
BoboBrazil
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Most Americans in exit polls considered themselves conservative or moderate. A socialist isn't winning anything.
This whole thing is like Battlestar Galactica. President Roslin (Hillary) loses to populist Baltar (Trump) who has questionable ties to our enemy (Russia). Everyone knows he is going to be a colossal failure and Adama (Obama) does everything he can to stop him from being elected.
All this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.
All this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.
Dominican Power
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You can't blame millennials for this.
FYI, I added to my response above.
Again, to be frank, it does not surprise me that white males are lining up to tell me that my understanding of this election as an existential test of whether America can be a diverse society is false. Being threatened with violence, or being subject to violence, and then being told by white male liberals that I understood the situation poorly or took the wrong steps to protect myself, is not a new experience to me.
After all, I'm no angel.
But your unwillingness to engage with my personal experience and your confidence that you know better than I do how to protect myself from white violence is not convincing.
You seem to want to tell me that if I want to convince white people not to kill my daughter I need to try something else. I would suggest to you that if you want to convince me that I'm wrong about how to protect my daughter, you need to try something else. What you are doing now is not working.
We definitely need some fresh faces in the party, and we should probably gut the DNC and replace the staff there while we're at it.
I feel like they took some pretty huge hits to their credibility this election, and if we don't get proactive about cutting off the infected limb conservatives are going to fucking pound us with it down the road.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Were they though?
If people choose to remain undecided, is there anything a pollster can do. Most of the time Clinton was polling around 47%. Which is where she is.
The problem arose from the polling aggregates.
Shoveling snow is junk here but otherwise it's not so bad. We're slowly getting Vanilla Coke again, so it's getting better.
Psychoward
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You can however be absolutely fucking stunned that 47% of millennials who voted, voted for him.
That's not a reassuring thought looking towards the future.
People want change and they're going to get it even though it's going to be disastrous like the Philippines but much worse.
Already Torn
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What's snow? You mean the ash coming from the brand new Trump Steel factories in Detroit?
It's already gone.
Bright side: Soon there won't be snow!
VendettaRed07
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Jesus.... CHRIST.
We just elected TRUMP and we are still criticizing BERNIE SANDERS. Do you think a guy like him would appoint right win nut jobs or fuck over minorities like Trump will? What is the point of this?
Are we going to learn anything from this or are we going to double down when we have been thoroughly and astoundingly proven dead wrong this election.
Very high.
Black Mamba
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Trump got 42% of women, Romney got 44%. So no, you're wrong there. According to exists. Latino's was 2% more but latino decisions seems to think it was much worse for Trump. And also their turnout was way up which would hurt him.
The election turned on college education according to exits. And rural uneducated people voted unlike ever before.
What other deeply racist candidates ran before? Romney? McCain? Bush. Come on...
BreezyLimbo
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3 quarters of 750 ml vodka bottle almost drunk
countr is failrue
my goodness
pence is horrible, hpe pence doesn' tmake decision
hurts so much. hurts. hurst. trump please be more liberal. please your comment of 'run republican' be ture. progress cannot be lost.
countr is failrue
my goodness
pence is horrible, hpe pence doesn' tmake decision
hurts so much. hurts. hurst. trump please be more liberal. please your comment of 'run republican' be ture. progress cannot be lost.
Well that too.
Seriously, I don't know how I can go back to my kids and tell them any of this education stuff matters when the entire country just spat on us. I teach almost all students of color. I am a teacher of color. Our country just said we don't matter.
You're implying Trump will actually do shit in Detroit
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Trump has normalized what he is preaching.
we've lost the millennials as a progressive generation.
My wife and I (both of us British citizens), were planning on trying for children in a year or two.
Legit afraid, now. Literally anyone else you could see what they'd do, but Trump? He apparently made an okay acceptance speech earlier? Who the fuck saw that coming?
Anyways... More wary of trying for kids now Trump is President.
Holding out hope that something happens between now and January - proof of rigging, ballot stuffing, impeachment. Something.
I can't get over how shocked he himself looked in that photo. He genuinely didn't think he'd mobilised enough support.
Gamergaters. I'm willing to bet that the cross-over between millennial, GG'er and Trump voter is pretty big.
BoboBrazil
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Where does Fox News go from here? They have everything they've ever dreamed of.
DirtyManos
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I had a similar conversation with my fellow grad students after class. Right now, at this moment, I really can't imagine wanting to bring in a child to this world with such a dark, unknown future. It was absolutely heart wrenching to legitimately feel that way.
My class is on systems of measurement in my field, the professor also teaches the ethics course that I'll take next year.
Anyway, as it became clear that something was seriously wrong, and Trump was at 200-something over Hillary, it became obvious no one was focused on the lecture.
My professor had to pause the class (I'm in California btw) and saw that we all wanted to air out what was happening. He first talked about how he had a class on Sept 12 a long time ago, and he knew he couldn't teach that material to the class. He said he felt the same way tonight. He mentioned how he has never talked politics to a class before, how he's in a position of power over us and it wouldn't be right.
However he then opened up the floor to discussion and questions between all of us.
It was heart wrenching. Some people were crying. Most were just shellshocked. Eventually most of us just spoke on our grievance, our sadness, our outlook on the future. It was a bit cathartic to experience that with them.
The professor finished his lecture.
As a group afterwards a number of us stayed behind to just console (i guess?) each other. It ended with us giving each other hugs. At least a little hope.
Really maybe one good memory from tonight.
We needed that.
Already Torn
Banned
He said he would bring jobs back!
Angry Fork
Member
The new deal coalition is what I described, it's not impossible. It only requires a democratic party that would defend the working class on a universal basis against big business and corruption. It's really not hard at all to at least try but the dem party is so shit it can't do anything right.
People like McCain and Graham are our only hope of that not happening.
So I'm not very confident they won't nuke it.
A SC seat is at stake, plus all the things they've ever wanted as a party, they can get them all in less than 2 years if they nuke it.
Dominican Power
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This POS is not my president and never will be. The left better wake the fuck up.
WRONG!
Ash is like leaves, snow will cover it up.
So it'll be even better here soon! Plus Tuesdays are cheap night at the movies. Games cost a lot, though.
But for the worldwide stage, I don't see how there's an upside for anyone, other than Putin. This is going to hurt everyone.
titiklabingapat
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Pretty fucking good.
Psychoward
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As a milennial myself I'm heartbroken. I went from believing I was part of the most progressive generation in the world to a generation filled with nationalist, populist white supremacists in the span of a year. Ugh.
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Deleted member 231381
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Okay. I've done my best over a very long time on PoliGAF to persuade you of this, and I doubt there's much more I can do. So you tell me. I'm listening. What do we do now if we want protection for minorities? How do we achieve that? Believe me, I want this very deeply. So how do we do it?
The New Deal Coalition got killed by Civil Rights.
low
Republicans need a reason for not passing any of Trump's crazy shit, and need an enemy to blame for getting nothing done since they have no ideas except cuts and taking away peoples rights.
neurosisxeno
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Shithead alt right guys who think the world is too PC and women should be subservient to men. Maybe after 8 years when we're left with a Mad Max style wasteland they'll realize they should have just grown the hell up.
Officerrob
Banned
Not just that Hillary is more qualified, people who thought Trump wasn't qualified to be president voted for him
This is the fourth election(including Brexit) I watched in the last few years or so were all the polls were off by a significant margin.
My wife was very upset tonight because she doesn't know how we can give our daughter a good life. Even apart from the white nationalism, there's the economy, climate change, nuclear war. We believed the world was getting better.
I can't really disagree. Every time I look at my daughter I start crying. She is only 2 and she was very happy tonight because she didn't know what was happening.
Sirpopopop
Member
And the people voted Trump who isn't really any of those things.
People are dumb. They want dumb pithy points.
Bernie Sanders can provide that easily.
benjipwns
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I don't think impeaching Obama will stop Trump from becoming President.
I for one welcome our robot overlords.
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